Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 08 Sep 2009, Matthijs Kooijman wrote: > Just a small inconsistency I noted. The description for Origin says "The field > can be optionaly prefixed with a single keyword followed by a comma and a > space to categorize the origin." while the examples use a colon instead of a > comma: In

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > - Where should discussions occur? Should we re-use debian-policy@, since > both documents are a bit related? Or use another list? I would > personally prefer to use another list (-policy@ is already quite > busy), but I could be convinced to use -p

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-08 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:30:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> Anyway, I'd rather wait some time until people have tried using > >> this format before deciding if we must make some special case due > >> to git

Re: apt: cron.daily necessary?

2009-09-08 Thread Raphael Geissert
Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Raphael Geissert , 2009-09-08, 13:28: >>> Since CFQ is the default IO scheduler, this kind of tasks should be >>> launched with "ionice -c3", no ? >> >>But that would introduce a dependency on ionice. An option would be to use >>start-stop-daemon's IO nice capabilities. > >

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-08 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 07/09/09 at 16:01 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > One thing I didn't say before is that, /in theory/, I'm willing to help with > maintenance of the devref package if the problem of public-by-default change > process is addressed. I didn't mention this because I don't want to mislead > anyone int

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 13:00 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : >> Trusting a library to do all your error handling and cleanup is not >> good style IMHO. In addition to the lack of self-documenting source, >> it often leave you with the meaningless generic error messa

Re: apt: cron.daily necessary?

2009-09-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Raphael Geissert , 2009-09-08, 13:28: Since CFQ is the default IO scheduler, this kind of tasks should be launched with "ionice -c3", no ? But that would introduce a dependency on ionice. An option would be to use start-stop-daemon's IO nice capabilities. $ dlocate -S /bin/ionice util-linux

Re: apt: cron.daily necessary?

2009-09-08 Thread Raphael Geissert
[Dropping the -amd64 ML as it seems irrelevant] Olivier Bonvalet wrote: > Since CFQ is the default IO scheduler, this kind of tasks should be > launched with "ionice -c3", no ? > But that would introduce a dependency on ionice. An option would be to use start-stop-daemon's IO nice capabilities.

Bug#545717: ITP: clamz -- Downloader for the Amazon.com MP3 music store

2009-09-08 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefan Schmidt * Package name: clamz Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Benjamin Moody * URL : http://code.google.com/p/clamz/ * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: C Description : Downloader for the Amazon.com MP3 mu

Bug#545707: ITP: v4l2ucp -- Video for Linux 2 Universal Control Panel

2009-09-08 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessio Treglia * Package name: v4l2ucp Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Scott J. Bertin * URL : http://v4l2ucp.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, C++ Description : Video for Linux 2 Universa

Re: apt: cron.daily necessary?

2009-09-08 Thread Olivier Bonvalet
Since CFQ is the default IO scheduler, this kind of tasks should be launched with "ionice -c3", no ? Olivier Lennart Sorensen a écrit : On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:42:28PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: I would like to discuss and suggest the following thing: On my 64-bit notebook I am usin

Re: Complete, sorted list of developers (600kB)

2009-09-08 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 05:11:53PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Just for fun today, I tried to see the complete list of debian dev: > > http://qa.debian.org/developer.php > -> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?all=1 > > List is empty for me... > > weird... Please, do as you are asked in t

Re: Complete, sorted list of developers (600kB)

2009-09-08 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Just for fun today, I tried to see the complete list of debian dev: > > http://qa.debian.org/developer.php > -> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?all=1 > > List is empty for me... > > weird... This is #511109 and #523732 … Not weird, just a bug. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 05:35:06PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:35:42PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > > With the namespace issue fixed and a blacklist to avoid mounting > > partitions in a virtualization environment, would it make sense to > > make grub-pc recommend

Re: Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-08 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:35:42PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > With the namespace issue fixed and a blacklist to avoid mounting > partitions in a virtualization environment, would it make sense to > make grub-pc recommend (or even depend on) os-prober again? The problem is not just virtualiz

Complete, sorted list of developers (600kB)

2009-09-08 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Just for fun today, I tried to see the complete list of debian dev: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php -> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?all=1 List is empty for me... weird... -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-08 Thread Fabian Greffrath
There's already a report open on os-prober to make it really read-only #417407 IIRC Colin Watson already thought in an Ubuntu bug report about implementing a blacklist for os-prober. With the namespace issue fixed and a blacklist to avoid mounting partitions in a virtualization environment, wou

Re: Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-08 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Dienstag, den 08.09.2009, 16:35 +0200 schrieb Fabian Greffrath: > > There's already a report open on os-prober to make it really read-only > > #417407 > > IIRC Colin Watson already thought in an Ubuntu bug report about > > implementing a blacklist for os-prober. > > With the namespace issue fix

Re: apt: cron.daily necessary?

2009-09-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:42:28PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > I would like to discuss and suggest the following thing: > > On my 64-bit notebook I am using anacron and (of course) apt. In the apt > package included is the file /etc/cron.daily/apt, which contents some lines, > which are star

Re: buildd : chroot / tty and nawk

2009-09-08 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Nevermind, the basic idea is described here: http://www.gnu.org/manual/gawk/html_node/Special-FD.html Sorry for the noise, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi there, > >  I am running into an issue, dicom3tools does not compile properly on > the buildd machine. The erro

buildd : chroot / tty and nawk

2009-09-08 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hi there, I am running into an issue, dicom3tools does not compile properly on the buildd machine. The error is: ... rm -rf transynu.h nawk -f ../../.././libsrc/support/transyn.awk \ role=extern outname=transynu <../../.././libsrc/standard/transyn.tpl >transynu.h rm -rf sopclu.h

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-08 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 13:59:48 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:40:51PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > There are many obvious examples of update-foo scripts which behave in > > this manner. The requirement to run a script to update the working > > configuration is nothing n

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-08 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 22:06:23 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 10:02:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:54:19PM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > > > * document that local policy will live in /etc/inetd.conf.d/ and any > > > manual > > > ch

Re: looking for kernel-maintainer

2009-09-08 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Dienstag 08 September 2009 schrieb Michael Banck: > Hello, > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:39:58AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > sorry to write here, but at the moment it is not possible, to register or > > send bugreports to bugzilla.kernel.org. > > Please refrain from using debian-devel a

Re: looking for kernel-maintainer

2009-09-08 Thread Uwe Kleine-König
Hello, On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:39:58AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear maintainers, > > sorry to write here, but at the moment it is not possible, to register or > send > bugreports to bugzilla.kernel.org. > > Seems the mailsystem is completely down. So I even cannot send the message,

Re: looking for kernel-maintainer

2009-09-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
Please don't cross-post to many lists. debian-kernel would have been sufficient. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 10:39 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear maintainers, > > sorry to write here, but at the moment it is not possible, to register or > send > bugreports to bugzilla.kernel.org. > > Seems t

Re: looking for kernel-maintainer

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Banck
Hello, On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:39:58AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > sorry to write here, but at the moment it is not possible, to register or > send > bugreports to bugzilla.kernel.org. Please refrain from using debian-devel as a catch-all address for off-topic matters in the future. t

Re: apt: cron.daily necessary?

2009-09-08 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 13:42:28 08.09.2009 UTC+02 when hans.ullr...@loop.de did gyre and gimble: HU> What do you think? Is there a way and a chance, to improve things? Any HU> feedback will be very welcome. Excerpt from the file itself: # check if the user really wants to do something AutoAptEnabl

Re: debian php5-fpm deb package

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Eduard Nemours wrote: > this is a feature request to integrate php5-fpm packages into. > It is currently in (final) development for Ubuntu 9.10. Please get the patch merged into PHP upstream and then file a wishlist bug on the php5 package to update it to the lates

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 13:00 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : Trusting a library to do all your error handling and cleanup is not good style IMHO. In addition to the lack of self-documenting source, it often leave you with the meaningless generic error messages some OSe

apt: cron.daily necessary?

2009-09-08 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi all, I would like to discuss and suggest the following thing: On my 64-bit notebook I am using anacron and (of course) apt. In the apt package included is the file /etc/cron.daily/apt, which contents some lines, which are starting a find process. This find process initiated by apt (and I h

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:16:08PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 13:00 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : > > Trusting a library to do all your error handling and cleanup is not good > > style IMHO. In addition to the lack of self-documenting source, it > > often leave yo

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 13:00 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : > Trusting a library to do all your error handling and cleanup is not good > style IMHO. In addition to the lack of self-documenting source, it > often leave you with the meaningless generic error messages some OSes > are so full of.

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Bjørn Mork
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 20:00 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a > écrit : >> Steve Langasek wrote: >> > Case 1, please. Either case 2 fails to handle the allocation error, or >> > glib >> > is doing its own abort. Neither is acceptable. > > Yeah, sure. As if there w

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 03:23:50PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:30:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> Anyway, I'd rather wait some time until people have tried using this > >> format before deciding if we must

Re: library-related policy question

2009-09-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 01:50:45PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 15:14:21 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > As of today, debian does not contain this bug, because ffmpeg with this > > brakage happened not to be uploaded yet to debian. However, once it is, > > the

debian php5-fpm deb package

2009-09-08 Thread Eduard Nemours
Hi, this is a feature request to integrate php5-fpm packages into. It is currently in (final) development for Ubuntu 9.10. The developer believes that the package is ready. php5-fpm comes as a patch file, and new build target to the existing php5 source package. Now that they have a newer up

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Josselin Mouette [090908 11:00]: > Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 10:55 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > > Often there is something sensible: Wait till more memory is available or > > just make the operation needing so much memory fail. > > If it???s an operation that specifically requires muc

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 11:00:07 08.09.2009 UTC+02 when j...@debian.org did gyre and gimble: JM> If it’s an operation that specifically requires much memory, Glib JM> provides g_try_*alloc functions for that. JM> However, when allocations start failing for string manipulation JM> operations, the ap

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Josselin Mouette , 2009-09-08, 10:06: > Case 1, please. Either case 2 fails to handle the allocation error, or glib > is doing its own abort. Neither is acceptable. Yeah, sure. As if there was anything more sensible to do than aborting when a memory allocation fails. When this happens under

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 10:55 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > Often there is something sensible: Wait till more memory is available or > just make the operation needing so much memory fail. If it’s an operation that specifically requires much memory, Glib provides g_try_*alloc functions

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Josselin Mouette [090908 10:45]: > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 20:00 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a > > Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Case 1, please. Either case 2 fails to handle the allocation error, or > > > glib > > > is doing its own abort. Neither is acceptable. > > Yeah, sure. As if ther

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 20:00 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a écrit : > Steve Langasek wrote: > > Case 1, please. Either case 2 fails to handle the allocation error, or glib > > is doing its own abort. Neither is acceptable. Yeah, sure. As if there was anything more sensible to do than abort

looking for kernel-maintainer

2009-09-08 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear maintainers, sorry to write here, but at the moment it is not possible, to register or send bugreports to bugzilla.kernel.org. Seems the mailsystem is completely down. So I even cannot send the message, that the mailservice is down, too. I hope, that one of the kernel-maintainers might r

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Frederic Peters
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > >>Case 2: > >>char *foo = g_strdup_printf ("%s equals %i", somestring, > >>someint); > > > >>Pick your choice. > > > >Case 1, please. Either case 2 fails to handle the allocation error, or glib > >is doing its own abort. Neither is acceptable. > > >

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 09:18:40AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > One thing I didn't say before is that, /in theory/, I'm willing to > > help with maintenance of the devref package if the problem of > > public-by-default change process is addressed. I didn't mention > > this because I don't

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-08 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
Hi all, > after several rounds of discussion on -devel, we now have a > new standard defining meta-information to integrate on patches that we > distribute/apply in our packages: > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ Just a small inconsistency I noted. The description for Origin says "The field can b

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-08 Thread Bjørn Mork
Raphael Hertzog writes: > after several rounds of discussion on -devel, we now have a > new standard defining meta-information to integrate on patches that we > distribute/apply in our packages: > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ Just a minor comment on the examples: Please either use your own d

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:30:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> Anyway, I'd rather wait some time until people have tried using this >> format before deciding if we must make some special case due to >> git format-patch. > > It's not a s

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:01:31PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I think it's a good idea, at least it's worth trying. That should however > > not mean that only delegated policy editors can maintain the package... > > maintainership should still be relatively open like it has always been. > > I