Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Manoj Srivastava [2009.06.23.0325 +0200]: > Now, Madduck wants us to say that there is no need for this > broader identity verification mechanism, that oe should just trust > him, and there shall be a means of smiting evil doers just the > same -- but after debconf 6 --- his track reco

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russ Allbery [2009.06.23.0158 +0200]: > > However, if you want to tie that key owner to a real person, to > > somehow (my speculation) bring down the wrath on the community > > on someone who does something nasty or subverts the DMUP or > > causes the FSM to weep, well, you need the m

CDBS - how to source a shell fragement before running ./configure?

2009-06-22 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi, as suggested on debian-user I repost my question here (sorry for the cross post, but I think it's better than send to individual emails to both lists, feel free to remove the other list) I'm currently packaging some "internal" software named gds with the great CDBS package. However, I have a

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava writes: > On Mon, Jun 22 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Going back to the previous discussion in debian-devel about signing a >> key for which the only IDs are pseudonyms, I personally would do >> that, but only if I knew the person personally and knew they were the >> person who u

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Jun 22 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: >> So while signing keys is not about governments, as Russ said, it >> is about establishing identity, and government issued identity >> documents are better proxies for establishing that than I can be >> bothered to

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Jun 22 2009, martin f krafft wrote: > Does it matter whether I have a passport that carries my name, or > whether the name on my key, with which I consistently identify > myself in Debian, is actually my own name? Why would anyone care? This is getting silly enough that we probabl

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava writes: > However, if you want to tie that key owner to a real person, to > somehow (my speculation) bring down the wrath on the community on > someone who does something nasty or subverts the DMUP or causes the FSM > to weep, well, you need the meet and greet and key

Re: Bug#519941: Remove Policy permission for packages to modify ld.so.conf

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Darren Salt writes: > Perhaps this? > > * Install the binaries in /usr/lib/root. > * Provide wrappers such as the following in /usr/bin: > > #! /bin/sh -e > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/root"${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+:}$LD_LIBRARY_PATH}" > exec /usr/lib/root/"$(basename "$0")" "$@" It's genera

Re: Bug#519941: Remove Policy permission for packages to modify ld.so.conf

2009-06-22 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Bill Allombert may or may not have written... > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:43:16PM +0200, Christian Holm Christensen wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 21:25 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: [snip] >> ROOT has libraries named like libMatrix, libPostscript, libPhysics, >> libMath, and so on -

Bug#534242: ITP: antihex -- Converts hex to decimal

2009-06-22 Thread Harry Rickards
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Harry Rickards * Package name: antihex Version : 0.02-1 Upstream Author : Zhaolei Maintainer : Harry Rickards * URL : https://sourceforge.net/projects/antihex/ * License : GPL, version 3 Section : math

Re: dupload fatal error: Can't upload libgdcm-cil_2.0.10-5_amd64.deb

2009-06-22 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Mathieu Malaterre (22/06/2009): > Sorry this might be dumb, but I cannot get the *.commands to be signed > as expected: Use dcut. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: dupload fatal error: Can't upload libgdcm-cil_2.0.10-5_amd64.deb

2009-06-22 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:34:06PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > $ gpg --sign --armor gdcm.commands > > It creates a separate .gpg file instead of appending the signature to > the actual *.commands file... Uh, I don't think you want --armor. That signs the text and then ascii-armors the ent

Re: dupload fatal error: Can't upload libgdcm-cil_2.0.10-5_amd64.deb

2009-06-22 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11789 March 1977, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > >>   I had a network issue and had to re-run dupload a second time. Now a >> partially *.changes files was updated, and I cannot do anything >> anymore: > > Either wait for the files to time out

Re: dupload fatal error: Can't upload libgdcm-cil_2.0.10-5_amd64.deb

2009-06-22 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11789 March 1977, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > I had a network issue and had to re-run dupload a second time. Now a > partially *.changes files was updated, and I cannot do anything > anymore: Either wait for the files to time out - or read the README in the directory you try to upload to, loo

dupload fatal error: Can't upload libgdcm-cil_2.0.10-5_amd64.deb

2009-06-22 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hello, I had a network issue and had to re-run dupload a second time. Now a partially *.changes files was updated, and I cannot do anything anymore: $ dupload --force gdcm_2.0.10-5_amd64.changes dupload note: no announcement will be sent. Checking signatures before upload..signatures are o

Re: [Popcon-developers] popcon.d.o? (was: gluck.debian.org (aka oldpeople.d.o) about to be shut down)

2009-06-22 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 07:27:17PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Martin Zobel-Helas [2009.06.20.0127 +0200]: > > If you care about any data you might have there please get it while you > > can. > > > > Current plan is to shut down current gluck by end of June (so in about > > 10 day

popcon.d.o? (was: gluck.debian.org (aka oldpeople.d.o) about to be shut down)

2009-06-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Zobel-Helas [2009.06.20.0127 +0200]: > If you care about any data you might have there please get it while you > can. > > Current plan is to shut down current gluck by end of June (so in about > 10 days). Where is popcon being run now? DNS says bellini, but gluck still seems t

Re: RFS: kernelcheck

2009-06-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
Jan Hauke Rahm writes: > Practically, I do see problems in the US, too: do you think a US court > would grant you copyright if the only statement in a file were "(C) > 2009, cate"? The copyright office has a webpage that explains some of these issues at http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl101.html:

Re: RFS: kernelcheck

2009-06-22 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:22:17AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Jan Hauke Rahm writes: > > Practically, I do see problems in the US, too: do you think a US court > > would grant you copyright if the only statement in a file were "(C) > > 2009, cate"? > > Explicit copyright notice is not required

Re: RFS: kernelcheck

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Jan Hauke Rahm writes: > Speaking for germany (as I already did in this thread), you have to > disclose your identity in court to make use of your civil rights. IOW > you cannot lay claim to your copyright if you are not identified as > the copyright holder. A pseudonym is then only helping (AFAI

Re: Should umountnfs.sh allow for NFS shares being bind mounted?

2009-06-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > > I think it's worth getting some thoughts on this before filing a bug > > about it (or not). > > Just see it's already been discussed to some extend in > http://bugs.debian.org/254311. And after looking a bit cl

Re: RFS: kernelcheck

2009-06-22 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:02:59AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" writes: > > > but I don't think is is usable in open source. Editors/publishers are > > required to know the real name, > > Why are editors/publishers required to know the real name? > > Maybe this is a juri

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mathieu Malaterre, le Mon 22 Jun 2009 17:36:31 +0200, a écrit : > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Mathieu Malaterre, le Mon 22 Jun 2009 16:13:58 +0200, a écrit : > >>   My question is simply: how do express that only one Binary package > >> requires a particular Build-De

Re: RFS: kernelcheck

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" writes: > but I don't think is is usable in open source. Editors/publishers are > required to know the real name, Why are editors/publishers required to know the real name? Maybe this is a jurisdiction-dependent issue? I don't know of any such constraint in the US, but

Re: Lintian magic-arch-in-arch-list

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Philipp Kern writes: > On 2009-06-22, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Philipp Kern writes: >>> As explained lintian was wrong after I dropped the bit that >>> collapsed "amd64 i386 all" to "any" in dpkg-source. The problem is >>> that we lost information about what needs to be built where. "any" >>> i

Re: Lintian magic-arch-in-arch-list

2009-06-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-06-22, Russ Allbery wrote: > Philipp Kern writes: >> As explained lintian was wrong after I dropped the bit that collapsed >> "amd64 i386 all" to "any" in dpkg-source. The problem is that we lost >> information about what needs to be built where. "any" if there is one >> i386 and one al

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Mathieu Malaterre writes: > >> Let's consider one source package 'foo' which can be build using a >> --enable-super-duper-3rd-party-lib. My control file is then: >> >> >> Source: foo >> Build-Depends: super-duper-3rd-p

Re: Should umountnfs.sh allow for NFS shares being bind mounted?

2009-06-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > I think it's worth getting some thoughts on this before filing a bug > about it (or not). Just see it's already been discussed to some extend in http://bugs.debian.org/254311. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Mathieu Malaterre writes: > Let's consider one source package 'foo' which can be build using a > --enable-super-duper-3rd-party-lib. My control file is then: > > > Source: foo > Build-Depends: super-duper-3rd-party-lib > ... > > Package: libfoo > ... > > Package: libfoo-s

Re: Lintian magic-arch-in-arch-list

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Philipp Kern writes: > As explained lintian was wrong after I dropped the bit that collapsed > "amd64 i386 all" to "any" in dpkg-source. The problem is that we lost > information about what needs to be built where. "any" if there is one > i386 and one all binary package is just plain wrong, IMH

Re: RFS: kernelcheck

2009-06-22 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Lars Wirzenius wrote: la, 2009-06-20 kello 08:56 +0200, David Paleino kirjoitti: Is material copyrightable under a nickname, instead of a realname? Yes, in all jurisdictions I am aware of. It's called a pseudonym and tends to be explicitly recognized by copyright laws. but I don't think is i

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 16:13:58 +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > My question is simply: how do express that only one Binary package > requires a particular Build-Depends package, but the other remaining > Binary package should be fine ? > You don't. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Mathieu Malaterre, le Mon 22 Jun 2009 16:13:58 +0200, a écrit : >>   My question is simply: how do express that only one Binary package >> requires a particular Build-Depends package, but the other remaining >> Binary package should be fine

Re: Bug#519941: Remove Policy permission for packages to modify ld.so.conf

2009-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Christian Holm Christensen writes: > This could be very bad for the root-system package set. ROOT has > libraries named like libMatrix, libPostscript, libPhysics, libMath, and > so on - i.e., very general names. For that reason I moved all the > packages into the subdirectory /usr/lib/root to

Bug#534216: ITP: mbuffer -- tool for buffering data streams

2009-06-22 Thread Peter Pentchev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Pentchev * Package name: mbuffer Version : 20090215 Upstream Author : Thomas Maier-Komor * URL : http://www.maier-komor.de/mbuffer.html * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: C Description : tool for buffering

Should umountnfs.sh allow for NFS shares being bind mounted?

2009-06-22 Thread Frans Pop
I think it's worth getting some thoughts on this before filing a bug about it (or not). Here's the use case: $ mount | tail -n2 nfs-server:/project on /srv/project type nfs4 (rw,[...]) /srv/project/kernel on /home/fjp/projects/kernel type none (rw,bind) So, an NFS share is mounted and a subdir f

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Mathieu Malaterre schrieb: > >>   My question is simply: how do express that only one Binary package >> requires a particular Build-Depends package, but the other remaining >> Binary package should be fine ? > > You can't.

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mathieu Malaterre, le Mon 22 Jun 2009 16:13:58 +0200, a écrit : > My question is simply: how do express that only one Binary package > requires a particular Build-Depends package, but the other remaining > Binary package should be fine ? Mmm, I guess that's more a question for debian-mentors? d

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Mathieu Malaterre schrieb: > My question is simply: how do express that only one Binary package > requires a particular Build-Depends package, but the other remaining > Binary package should be fine ? You can't. You specify build-depends for _source_ packages, which in turn build the binar

Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-06-22 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
hi, I am reposting a previous post under a different Subject line, hoping to get more (read: any) feedback. I am currently maintaining the gdcm package: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gdcm.html Is is written in -somewhat- portable C++ and should build with any decent C++ compiler. However

Re: Bug#519941: Remove Policy permission for packages to modify ld.so.conf

2009-06-22 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:43:16PM +0200, Christian Holm Christensen wrote: > Hi all, > > On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 21:25 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > In Policy Bug#519941, it was proposed to remove the Policy permission > > for packages to modify ld.so.conf in exceptional circumstances. The > > im

Re: What's wrong with meta-gnome2 ?

2009-06-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-06-22, Olivier Berger wrote: >> Following Joss's mail to -release@, the following answer came: >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/06/msg00216.html > OK... so, how comes these dependencies aren't reflected in > http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=gnome-desktop

Re: Lintian magic-arch-in-arch-list

2009-06-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-06-22, Shaun Jackman wrote: > I have a source package with two binary packages. One binary package > is arch i386 amd64, the other is arch all containing the > architecture-independent data files. The resulting dsc file is > Architecture: amd64 i386 all > which lintan complains about: > E:

Re: Bug#519941: Remove Policy permission for packages to modify ld.so.conf

2009-06-22 Thread Christian Holm Christensen
Hi all, On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 21:25 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > In Policy Bug#519941, it was proposed to remove the Policy permission > for packages to modify ld.so.conf in exceptional circumstances. The > implication would be that all packages which do this will need to either > move their libr

Bug#534163: ITP: gsm0710muxd -- GSM 07.10 Multiplexer

2009-06-22 Thread Johannes Schauer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Johannes Schauer * Package name: gsm0710muxd Version : 1.13 Upstream Author : Michael Dietrich * URL : http://pyneo.org * License : GPL2+ Programming Lang: C Description : GSM 07.10 Multiplexer pyneo mobile sta

Bug#534162: ITP: python-pyneo -- pyneo mobile stack: basis libraries

2009-06-22 Thread Johannes Schauer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Johannes Schauer * Package name: python-pyneo Version : 1.13 Upstream Author : Michael Dietrich * URL : http://pyneo.org * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Python Description : pyneo mobile stack: basis librarie

Re: Lintian magic-arch-in-arch-list

2009-06-22 Thread Mauro Lizaur
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Shaun Jackman wrote: > I have a source package with two binary packages. One binary package > is arch i386 amd64, the other is arch all containing the > architecture-independent data files. The resulting dsc file is > Architecture: amd64 i386 all > which lintan complains about

Re: What's wrong with meta-gnome2 ?

2009-06-22 Thread Olivier Berger
Le lundi 22 juin 2009 à 03:51 +0200, Cyril Brulebois a écrit : > Aaron M. Ucko (21/06/2009): > > [Copying the original poster because I'm not certain he's subscribed; > > apologies for any resulting duplication.] > > [AFAICT, he is, since he replied in some threads previously. ;)] Sure am I (on

Re: Lintian magic-arch-in-arch-list

2009-06-22 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Shaun Jackman (21/06/2009): > I have a source package with two binary packages. One binary package > is arch i386 amd64, the other is arch all containing the > architecture-independent data files. The resulting dsc file is > Architecture: amd64 i386 all > which lintan complains about: > E: eagle s