Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, William Pitcock wrote: > > Have a look at the cdrtools page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools > > > > The cdrkit page also has some info: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrkit > > We should take information from those pages and copyedit them into > something suitable

changes in pam: automatic configuration of PAM modules

2009-02-28 Thread Steve Langasek
Dear developers, I'm happy to announce that with the latest upload of pam to unstable, we at last have an interface that allows both automatic and interactive configuration of system authentication, using that staple of the Debian system, debconf. It's unfortunate that this wasn't ready to go in

Re: Making some tags mandatory

2009-02-28 Thread Carsten Hey
Deborphan needs a way to detect shared libraries like the ones currently in section libs and distinguish them from packages which are technically shared libraries but can not assumed to be orphaned when no other package depends on them. The obvious examples for such packages are modules (role::mod

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-28 Thread William Pitcock
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 17:54 +0100, Arthur de Jong wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 12:43 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joerg_Schilling > > > > I notice that Joerg's Wikipedia page is rather bare. > > > > Instead of spending time covering all the old arguments on this

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > The main problem here is that Joerg seems to be more interested in > > having proved that opinion wrong than in actually getting his software > > packaged and distributed in Linux distributions. > > No. He is not interested in proving it one way

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-28 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:59:27AM +, Enrico Zini wrote: > I propose 'oldlibs' to be renamed to 'deprecated'. > > That would also fit, for example, packages abandoned upstream, or > packages that have a better alternative, but that still have users. I would expect to have so called trans

Re: Making some tags mandatory

2009-02-28 Thread Ben Finney
Jörg Sommer writes: > Which tag should I choose if no tag matches? If no existing tag is appropriate, then either the facet does not apply to that package, or a new tag is required for that facet. > Should you provide a tag ::other for each facet? That suggests that the package is properly tag

Bug#517614: ITP: blueman -- A Graphical bluetooth manager

2009-02-28 Thread Christopher Schramm
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christopher Schramm * Package name: blueman Version : 1.02 Upstream Author : Valmantas Palikša * URL : http://blueman-project.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : A Graphical bluetooth mana

Re: Transition: krb5 to drop Kerberos IV (libkrb53 restructuring)

2009-02-28 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > You can certainly obtain a similar result nowadays by putting the > dependency that you want in debian/control directly and by using > the -x option of dpkg-shlibdeps to strip the dependency that you did not > want. I had a case recently where this w

Re: handling group membership in and outside d-i

2009-02-28 Thread Joey Hess
> In shortthe first created user *should* be in powerdev. If it is > notthen there's a bug in user-setup (or somewhere else...). The powerdev group only exists if hal is installed, which is only the case if one of the desktop tasks is installed. If the group does not exist, the initial use

Re: Proposed release goal: fix debian/rules build-arch

2009-02-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > No, buildds do not install B-D-I contrary to what policy says they > must. Which is part of the problem the proposal wants to fix. > It also isn't so much the building itself, most arch-indep stuff builds > pretty quick. The bigger saving is not having to download,

Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 06:32:45PM +0100, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > >> Hmmm. I partially agree, but then we have an unnecessary exception: > >> such virtual packages must have only one "provider", or else there > >> will be problems (IIRC) on dpkg, apt or ddbuild, if such dependency > >> is declar

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive (deborphan)

2009-02-28 Thread Carsten Hey
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:03:39PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:03:55PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > There are tools that understand the special meaning of the 'oldlibs' > > section and treat it specially; at least deborphan comes to mind, > > there may be others. I d

Re: Making some tags mandatory

2009-02-28 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hi Enrico, Enrico Zini wrote: > * The proposal > > At the end of this mail is the list that I propose: it's 138 of them, > but grouped as they are, they should be quite clear to grasp. I > consider these groups of tags (debtags calls them facets) to be mature > and uncontroversial enough to be

Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-28 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:46:15AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: >>> Given that m-t-a is mentioned explicitly in policy, and that "default-mta" >>> will be a virtual package, I think this should be recorded in policy as well >>> - though if a clear consensus emerges on

Please test krb5 from experimental--even if you don't use Kerberos

2009-02-28 Thread Sam Hartman
Folks, I'd appreciate it if people could try and test version 1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-8 from experimental of the krb5 package. The biggest change is a packaging reorganization. So, while I'm certainly interested in Kerberos users testing the packages, I'm most interested in people other than me conf

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-28 Thread Arthur de Jong
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 12:43 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joerg_Schilling > > I notice that Joerg's Wikipedia page is rather bare. > > Instead of spending time covering all the old arguments on this list, > perhaps some people could add links (such as the ones you cit

Re: Transition: krb5 to drop Kerberos IV (libkrb53 restructuring)

2009-02-28 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Julien" == Julien BLACHE writes: Julien> Sam Hartman wrote: Hi, >> It turns out this fails impressively. The problem is that the >> library packages depend on each other. So, for example, >> libk5crypto3 is needed by libkrb5-3. If I make the shlibs file >> for libk

Az első fórum alapú közösség!

2009-02-28 Thread FreeForum
Szia! Szeretnénk neked bemutatni Magyarország első fórum alapú közösségét! Csinálj nálunk magadnak saját fórumot! Amit adunk: * A fórumodhoz jár egy általad választott aldomain * A fórumodon létrehozott témákért és hozzászólásokért illetve regisztrált felhasználókért nem kell aggódj hiszen k

Re: Is the FHS dead ?

2009-02-28 Thread Josh Hurst
On 2/24/09, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 08:20:31AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > > Interesting. And yes, illustrative of the historically (and, should I > > add, ridiculous? No, I'd better not ;-) ) rivality between Linux and > > the *BSDs, big egos included. > > > Well, th

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Reinhard Tartler writes: > Kalle Kivimaa writes: > >> If you feel that the SFLC's opinion is wrong, you are of course free >> to provide us with competent legal advice countering SFLC's opinion. > > opinions can only be proven right or wrong in court. It seems that Sun's > opinion is that the co

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-02-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Brett Parker writes: > On 26 Feb 15:47, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> It seems that you are spreding FUD. Everybody who is interested in working >> CD/DVD creating uses the original software. There are nearly 100 Bug Reports >> against the fork in the bug tracking systems from Debian, Ubuntu and Red

Re: Transition: krb5 to drop Kerberos IV (libkrb53 restructuring)

2009-02-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Hi, > > >> debian/shlibs.local should help for that. > > > > Except symbols files have priority over shlibs and there's no > > symbols.local. > > I sense a lack of flexibility in this symbols file feature, hmm. shlibs.local

Re: Transition: krb5 to drop Kerberos IV (libkrb53 restructuring)

2009-02-28 Thread Julien BLACHE
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hi, >> debian/shlibs.local should help for that. > > Except symbols files have priority over shlibs and there's no > symbols.local. I sense a lack of flexibility in this symbols file feature, hmm. JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian & GNU/Linux Developer - Public key a

Re: Build-indep as a way to not build doc.

2009-02-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 02:39:59PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > >> > If we can ever settle on a suitable implementation, I would expect the >> > savings of both human and CPU cycles to be sizeable, and worth the effort. > >> If the problem is limited to local building o

Re: Proposed release goal: fix debian/rules build-arch

2009-02-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Charles Plessy writes: > Le Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 07:51:14PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois a écrit : >> >> Does “build reproducibility” mean something to you? > > Hi Cyril, > > Build reproduciblitity means to me that two instances package built in the > same > environment should be reasonably iden

Re: Transition: krb5 to drop Kerberos IV (libkrb53 restructuring)

2009-02-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Sam Hartman wrote: > > I probably could hack something that would work: use symbols files > > that point at the split library packages internally and just before > > the debs are constructed run a sed script on symbols and shlibs. > > debian/shlibs.loca

Re: Proposed release goal: fix debian/rules build-arch

2009-02-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kari Pahula writes: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:21:42AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Such a requirement unfortunately still won't mean that Lintian can use >> that option to do a check of debian/rules. As long as make is willing to >> run such code, we can't just rely on a Policy statement say

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-28 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:03:55PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > There are tools that understand the special meaning of the 'oldlibs' section > and treat it specially; at least deborphan comes to mind, there may be > others. I don't see the necessity for such a section rename, but if it > happen

Re: CC Attribution ShareALike (CC-by-sa) 3.0

2009-02-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Luca Capello (28/02/2009): > This does not match everything, since some packages can list the full > license name only, e.g. Hunchentoot: […] Never said it would. The idea was just to point to an obvious example showing ftpmasters' acceptance of such a package. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Descri

Re: handling group membership in and outside d-i

2009-02-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jon Dowland (jon+debian-de...@alcopop.org): > I did several subsequent installs and my user never ended > up in powerdev (nor netdev for that matter). It's my belief > (yet to check d-i code to confirm) that the user gets added > to powerdev if you select the desktop task: for each of my

Re: Transition: krb5 to drop Kerberos IV (libkrb53 restructuring)

2009-02-28 Thread Julien BLACHE
Sam Hartman wrote: Hi, > It turns out this fails impressively. The problem is that the library > packages depend on each other. So, for example, libk5crypto3 is > needed by libkrb5-3. If I make the shlibs file for libk5crypto3 point > to libkrb53 instead of libk5crypto3, then libkrb5-3 depend

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:31:25PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> Get me a short description for it. > > "Compiler, libraries, and tools for OCaml: a static typed ML language > > implementation supporting functional, imperative, and object-oriented > > programming styles". > You have an interesti

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 21:40 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : >> Select one of cli-mono or ecma-cli and please also get me a short >> description :) > > How about: > > cli-mono -- The Common Language Infrastructure, the Mono implement