Re: Multiarch and idea for improved diversions and alternatives handling

2008-07-03 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 08:33 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Neil Williams > > | Just a thought - why use /usr/lib/$ARCH and /usr/include/$ARCH at all > | when it would (IMHO) be simpler to use /usr/$TRIPLET/ and put the entire > | package under that, as we do with dpkg-cross currently: > > How

Re: Converting to source format "3.0 (quilt)" (was: Misc developer news (#9))

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008, Ben Finney wrote: > [Followup on debian-devel, instead of debian-devel-announce. Raphael, > did you intentionally set Mail-Followup-To to debian-devel-announce or > was that an oversight?] Well, mutt adds it automatically as I have it configured to recognize all debian-* as ma

Re: Multiarch and idea for improved diversions and alternatives handling

2008-07-03 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Neil Williams | Just a thought - why use /usr/lib/$ARCH and /usr/include/$ARCH at all | when it would (IMHO) be simpler to use /usr/$TRIPLET/ and put the entire | package under that, as we do with dpkg-cross currently: How would you then handle libraries that go in /lib? (Apart from the fact

Work-needing packages report for Jul 4, 2008

2008-07-03 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 497 (new: 4) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 110 (new: 2) Total number of packages request

Re: Multiarch and idea for improved diversions and alternatives handling

2008-07-03 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 18:44 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 02:03:05AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> So if we allow multiple packages to be installed at the same time which > >> divert the same file, then I think we have

Re: ITP: password -- little ruby random password generator

2008-07-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Ryan Kavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Package name: password > Description : Compact ruby random password generator > > Little random password generator which generates a random > password which is strong, safe and secure. pwgen already exists. Al

Converting to source format "3.0 (quilt)" (was: Misc developer news (#9))

2008-07-03 Thread Ben Finney
[Followup on debian-devel, instead of debian-devel-announce. Raphael, did you intentionally set Mail-Followup-To to debian-devel-announce or was that an oversight?] Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Advice on quilt usage and compatibility with new source format Thanks very much for t

Re: ITP: password -- little ruby random password generator

2008-07-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Ryan Kavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Ryan Kavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: password That's a very generic package name and should probably say *something* about how it's a random password generator. > Version : 2007

ITP: password -- little ruby random password generator

2008-07-03 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ryan Kavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: password Version : 2007.12.30 Upstream Author : Joakim Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://lirhost.net/~jocke/password/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Ruby De

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-03 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 3 de Julio de 2008, Raphael Hertzog escribió: > I'm reluctant to change the default behaviour of start-stop-daemon at this > point. What do other people think of making --oknodo the default behaviour > and adding a new option to force the current default behaviour (exit with > failure i

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-07-03 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is why I suggested to integrate liblocale-gettext-perl in perl-base > itself. This would be the simplest/nicest solution IMO. It would always be > synchronized with the current perl. > > See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi

Boletines Oficiales

2008-07-03 Thread Ana Gil Barrenechea
Hola, Somos un grupo de ingenieros que hemos puesto en marcha el primer buscador libre de boletines oficiales. Simplemente por si pensais que puede ser de interés y quereis colaborar poniendo un link a www.iboof.com en vuestra página. Saludos cordiales, Ana Gil Barrenechea Ingenier

Re: Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-07-03 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Andreas Tille dijo [Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 09:24:32AM +0200]: > >I haven't been following trigger adoption very much, so I'm ignorant: > >what harm have triggers done? > > It slows down apt-get / aptitude by calling update-menus / update-mandb > for every package that drops a file into this director

Re: Bug#489132: lenny release notes, upgrade dpkg first

2008-07-03 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Bryan Donlan wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Package: release-notes >>> Severity: important >>> >>> To work-around a problem that can happen in the perl 5.10 upgrade (see >>> #479711), the perl sc

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > Here is a summary of the problem: FWIW, the summary is right according to my understanding. > * This problem is clearly release critical. I don't think documenting > a release critical bug of this severity in the release notes is > acceptable. Furth

Re: Bug#489132: lenny release notes, upgrade dpkg first

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Bryan Donlan wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Package: release-notes > > Severity: important > > > > To work-around a problem that can happen in the perl 5.10 upgrade (see > > #479711), the perl scripts contained in dpkg (u

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(Cc -devel to seek input) On Thu, 31 May 2007, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > Acording to the LSB specifications for init scripts [1]: > > "For all other init-script actions, the init script shall return an exit > status of zero if the action was successful. Otherwise, the exit status > shall be non

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-03 Thread Marvin Renich
* Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080703 09:57]: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > The Debian maintainer for a specific VPN decides it does not need > > special shutdown handling > > Nono, thats not my point. My point is, that a maintainer of any package > cannot easyly forsee w

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-07-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > * Suppressing lazy symbol resolution may work in this case, but it > is not correct. Lazy symbol resolution should be supressed while in eval regardless of the method which we use to resolve this problem. Non-recoverable failures from code in eval should

Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-07-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Raphael Hertzog writes ("Bug#489132: lenny release notes, upgrade dpkg first"): > To work-around a problem that can happen in the perl 5.10 upgrade (see > #479711), the perl scripts contained in dpkg (update-alternatives, > dpkg-divert) have been modified... but for the work-around to be used, the

Re: Bug#489132: lenny release notes, upgrade dpkg first

2008-07-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 03 July 2008 12:25, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Given that the new dpkg also supports triggers, we should probably also > recommend to upgrade apt/aptitude at the same time otherwise those tools > might be confused by the new package status... #464559 (in apt) is also a problem for e

Bug#489169: ITP: bzr-git -- Bazaar readonly support for Git repositories

2008-07-03 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jelmer Vernooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: bzr-git Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : David Allouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aaron Bentley <[EMAIL PROT

upgrade problems switching from conflictiong to depending packages

2008-07-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, I found this when trying to solve #369386. There seems to be a problem when trying to go from two conflicting packages to a dummy package and the prefered one: Before: Package: lynx Version: 2.8.6-2.1 Conflicts: lynx-cur Package: lynx-cur Version: 2.8.7dev9-1 Conflicts: lynx After: Packa

Bug#489164: ITP: jaranalyzer -- A Dependency management utility for jar files.

2008-07-03 Thread Florian Grandel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florian Grandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: jaranalyzer Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Kirk Knoernschild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (remove the _filter) * URL : http://www.kirkk.com/main/Main/JarAnalyzer * License : non

Re: Bug#489059: ITP: mnemosyne-blog -- Maildir-to-blog compiler with XML templating and Python extensions

2008-07-03 Thread Decklin Foster
Ben Finney writes: > I'd advise the name "mnemosyne-weblog" which is slightly less > jargonny. Hmm. While I don't want to dismiss this out of hand, I feel much more natural saying "blog" myself. As a crude approximation of current usage, here are the current numbers of google hits for: "weblog

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > The Debian maintainer for a specific VPN decides it does not need > special shutdown handling Nono, thats not my point. My point is, that a maintainer of any package cannot easyly forsee which part of the system he is using (resolver, pam, proxy, ..) mig

Bug#489145: ITP: libgit-fastexport-perl -- A module to parse the output of git-fast-export

2008-07-03 Thread Edi Stojicevic
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Edi Stojicevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libgit-fastexport-perl Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Philippe 'Book' Bruat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Git-FastExport-0.01/lib/Git/FastExport.pm

Re: buildd path name length

2008-07-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Simon Josefsson: >> Suppose that a package wants to create a UNIX domain socket as part of >> its test suite. If the socket is created within the package build >> directory, this might fail because of the quite low path name length >> limit. What is the correct way of dealing with this? "mkte

Re: buildd path name length

2008-07-03 Thread Simon Josefsson
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Suppose that a package wants to create a UNIX domain socket as part of > its test suite. If the socket is created within the package build > directory, this might fail because of the quite low path name length > limit. What is the correct way of deali

buildd path name length

2008-07-03 Thread Florian Weimer
Suppose that a package wants to create a UNIX domain socket as part of its test suite. If the socket is created within the package build directory, this might fail because of the quite low path name length limit. What is the correct way of dealing with this? "mktemp -d" uses TMPDIR, which is pot

Bug#489132: lenny release notes, upgrade dpkg first

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Package: release-notes Severity: important To work-around a problem that can happen in the perl 5.10 upgrade (see #479711), the perl scripts contained in dpkg (update-alternatives, dpkg-divert) have been modified... but for the work-around to be used, the new dpkg must obviously be installed first

Re: bug closed by $p4m mail?

2008-07-03 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-07-03 08:58, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > For unarchiving and un-closing, use the control bot > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I didn't know about the 'unarchive' command. Thanks, everything is fine now! Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuP

Re: Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-07-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Lars Wirzenius wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 08:24 +0200, Andreas Tille kirjoitti: /me as a completely uneducated apt / aptitude user thinks: Triggers have done more harm than good. I haven't been following trigger adoption very much, so I'm ignorant: what harm have triggers

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 04:36:56PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: >> Either I don't understand the usage scenario you are talking about, or I >> misunderstand what is being proposed in this thread, or you >> misunderstand what is being proposed in this thread. Here is a more >> concrete example of a sit