Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:10:20PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Yeah, that's pathological enough that I don't see any easy fix for it >> in lintian without special-casing the perl package or not doing >> encoding checks on misnamed changelog files. The l

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:10:20PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The package "perl" doesn't ship its own copy of changelog.Debian, but > > instead relies on it's dependency, perl-base. Yet, it does ship other > > stuff in /usr/share/doc/perl/, includ

Debian Configuration Packaging System: motivation

2008-03-02 Thread Timothy G Abbott
Discussion on the technical details of using dpkg-divert for configuration seems to have died down. My basic summary of the discussion is (A) any system attempting to configure site defaults requires use of dpkg-divert on conffiles[1], and probably should use dpkg-divert on all configuration f

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The package "perl" doesn't ship its own copy of changelog.Debian, but > instead relies on it's dependency, perl-base. Yet, it does ship other > stuff in /usr/share/doc/perl/, including the upstream changelog. Oh, so lintian gets confused and thinks tha

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 06:11:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Of those, perl is a false positive (caused by lintian not detecting the > > correct changelog file), > > Please provide more details? I know perl does odd things (relative to > most De

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Of those, perl is a false positive (caused by lintian not detecting the > correct changelog file), Please provide more details? I know perl does odd things (relative to most Debian packages) with the changelog file, but I don't know why that would caus

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Michael Casadevall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about simply decoupling mips/mipsel's version numbers so an out of > date package on mips(el) doesn't stall out the rest of the > testing. Having (somewhat) setup britney/update_out to generate testing > for m68k, it should just be a matter of

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread William Pitcock
Because they don't want to. William On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 17:30 -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: > What about simply decoupling mips/mipsel's version numbers so an out of > date package on mips(el) doesn't stall out the rest of the testing. Having > (somewhat) setup britney/update_out to genera

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Michael Casadevall
What about simply decoupling mips/mipsel's version numbers so an out of date package on mips(el) doesn't stall out the rest of the testing. Having (somewhat) setup britney/update_out to generate testing for m68k, it should just be a matter of adding of adding mips and mipsels, to the proper li

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Russ! You wrote: > Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > >> I'm planning to file bugs for packages that use non-UTF-8 encodings in > >> debian/control and/or debian/copyright. > > > > Can you report on any progress in this? > > There are four source packages left wit

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bas Zoetekouw wrote: >> I'm planning to file bugs for packages that use non-UTF-8 encodings in >> debian/control and/or debian/copyright. > > Can you report on any progress in this? There are four source packages left with changelog encoding problems: http://l

Re: mass ITPs

2008-03-02 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
* Luca Brivio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-02 20:28]: > Alle 19:48, sab 1 marzo 2008, Christian Perrier ha scritto: > > If someone cares to listen: when you think about ITPing each and every > > piece of FLOSS that pops around: think about *helping* people who > > maintain existing packages instea

lintian check for direct init script invocation (was: Bug#438885: Not blocking anymore)

2008-03-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Important: > lintian: Also check for not using invoke-rc.d in other scripts. > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=381485 I don't have a tremendous amount of free time to work on Debian right now and what time I do have for lintian I'm putting into

does yaz need hijacking ? (was Re: Bug#463116: yaz: New version of YAZ available)

2008-03-02 Thread Vincent Danjean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Dickmeiss (upstream) wrote: > YAZ 3.0.24 is available. All source is now covered by 'Revised BSD' - > including the CCL module. The ziffy part has been removed (is GPL). ziffy > be distributed separately at a later time. Thank you very much for

Re: Mass bug filing: non-UTF8 debian/{control.changelog}

2008-03-02 Thread Amaya
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > I'm planning to file bugs for packages that use non-UTF-8 encodings in > debian/control and/or debian/copyright. Can you report on any progress in this? Is there a bug that already tracks this issue? Thanks -- ·''`.Moi je voudrais bien, un beau matin, qu'il y ait

Re: mass ITPs

2008-03-02 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle 19:48, sab 1 marzo 2008, Christian Perrier ha scritto: > If someone cares to listen: when you think about ITPing each and every > piece of FLOSS that pops around: think about *helping* people who > maintain existing packages instead of adding even more noise to our > noisy bunch of various cra

Bug#469049: marked as done (debmake is deprecated)

2008-03-02 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:39:55 +0100 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Re: Processed: Re: debmake is deprecated has caused the Debian Bug report #469049, regarding debmake is deprecated to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt

Re: Processed: Re: debmake is deprecated

2008-03-02 Thread Amaya
My bad, all of these package are not found in stable or testing. Transition is finished. Sorry for the noise. Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > owner 469049 Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated > Owner recorded a

Processed: Re: debmake is deprecated

2008-03-02 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > owner 469049 Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated Owner recorded as Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > # see below for explanation > severity 372964 important Bug#372964: xtranslate: debmake is deprecated Severity set t

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 02/03/08 at 23:34 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I have not asked MIPS to be removed from the list of released > architectures. I have asked testing migration to be uncoupled from MIPS > building while the buildds are suffering. In a previous thread it has > been suggested that this operation re

Bug#469049: debmake is deprecated

2008-03-02 Thread Amaya
Package: general Severity: normal I am opening this bug to have a tracker for the "debmake is deprecated" transition progress. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00019.html for details. The remaining bugs, that will become blockers, tagged important, are: #372973: cksfv

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:49:30AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > For the moment, the answer is: > > As a side effect trying to build ghc6 on MIPS, many (hundreds?) other > > packages are blocked from migrating to testing for more than a m

Processed: Not blocking anymore

2008-03-02 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > unblock 438885 by 353660 Bug#353660: linda: Check for direct use of init.d, when invoke-rc.d should be used instead Bug#438885: Mass bug filing: must use invoke-rc.d Was blocked by: 341413 341415 348259 348263 353660 367722 367725 367727 367729 367730

Bug#438885: Not blocking anymore

2008-03-02 Thread Amaya
unblock 438885 by 353660 unblock 438885 by 367727 block 438885 by 381485 thanks [18:21] >> amaya joins #debian-bugs [18:42] < amaya> so what to do about http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438885? [18:43] < amaya> linda seems to be "dead" and jukebox-mercury is only present in old

Bug#468964: ITP: squirrelmail-quicksave -- Quick Save plugin for SquirrelMail

2008-03-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Hauke Rahm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: squirrelmail-quicksave Version : 2.4.2 Upstream Author : Paul Lesniewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=8 * License : GPL Pro

Bug#468946: ITP: libmodule-starter-perl -- a simple starter kit for Perl modules

2008-03-02 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libmodule-starter-perl Version : 1.470 Upstream Author : Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-Starter/ * License : GPL + Artistic

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 01:39:52PM +0200, Riku Voipio a écrit : > If you want to positively influence the RM team to remove mips(el) Dear all, sorry for this extra email, but I do not want any misunderstanding. I have not asked MIPS to be removed from the list of released architectures. I have

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008, Mike Bird wrote: > You've rattled on at great length without showing any value to git > logs beyond providing clues to a successor developer where a > predecessor falls under a bus part way through developing a feature. That's still good enough for me. Seems that I got somethi

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008, Robert Collins wrote: > > Well, when I sat down some years back to do a couple of things with > > dpkg; I found no need to consult change logs to understand the current > > code of the time. Perhaps its quality has massi

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008, Robert Collins wrote: > On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 02:09 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > And I am completely *sure* it would not be irrelevant for me were I > > debugging dpkg without a full, complete, dpkg-regular-developer level of > > understanding of the code. Or

Re: mass ITPs

2008-03-02 Thread Thomas Weber
On 01/03/08 19:48 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > There seems to be some crazyness about packaging new stuff these > days. That would be fine.if only our existing packages were well > maintained.which, for many of them is certainly not true. Just for the record: every single package Rafa

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Julien BLACHE
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The buildd queues aren't FIFO, this has been explained already a >> dozen times if not more. > > And every time that discussion surfaces, suggestions to include age in > the formula used to calculate the build order are presented. Also > suggestio

Re: Bug#467249: man-db/groff and locales

2008-03-02 Thread Adam Borowski
I see that my (inept but working) patches are not welcome right now. So, I'll leave groff alone; just let me answer the issues raised. On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 11:56:28PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:32:29AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:10:3

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 08:22:51AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Fri February 29 2008 06:29:07 Otavio Salvador wrote: > > I personally apply this same policy on repositories that I work and it > > usually makes much easier logs to read. > > I'm not a DD but I've been programming since 1963 when I w

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:34:23PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Thanks for the answer! Sometimes two letters are much clearer that > longer sentences. I would have prefered that a good reason would be > provided (do not tell me that you do not see an obvious difference > between mips and mipsel w

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Riku Voipio
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:02:09PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Julien BLACHE a écrit : > > In the MIPS case, the buildds are impacted by real technical problems > > that take time and effort to get fixed. > Exactly, and real technical problems mean real

Bug#468918: ITP: geotrans -- Geographic coordinates translator

2008-03-02 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Roberto Lumbreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: geotrans Version : 2.4.1 Upstream Author : National Geospatial Intelligence Agency <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/geotrans * License : BSD

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 12:09:06PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit : > Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Would it be possible to allow the migration in testing of the package > > that are waiting for being build on mips or mipsel until the buildd > > problem is fixed? > > Same a

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 11:18 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Now, having bisecability could be useful (I have never used a > bisect); I don't know what the effect of a version that does not > compile or is otherwise buggy would have on the work flow. Depending on the treatment of bra

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would it be possible to allow the migration in testing of the package > that are waiting for being build on mips or mipsel until the buildd > problem is fixed? Same answer as a few days ago: No. Marc -- Fachbegriffe der Informatik - Einfach erklärt 24

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008, Robert Collins wrote: > On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 02:09 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > > And I am completely *sure* it would not be irrelevant for me were I > > debugging dpkg without a full, complete, dpkg-regular-developer level of > > understanding of the code

Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Julien BLACHE a écrit : > In the MIPS case, the buildds are impacted by real technical problems > that take time and effort to get fixed. Exactly, and real technical problems mean real nuisance. Dear Release managers, as you probably noticed, the mips b

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the moment, the answer is: > > As a side effect trying to build ghc6 on MIPS, many (hundreds?) other > packages are blocked from migrating to testing for more than a month. Eh, what? You think that mips* is the problem here? What about the missi

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 02:09 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > And I am completely *sure* it would not be irrelevant for me were I > debugging dpkg without a full, complete, dpkg-regular-developer level of > understanding of the code. Or if I were trying to understand how dpkg > works,

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Julien BLACHE] >> Clearly, in the conflict of interest between the ghc6 MIPS users, and >> the testing users on other arches, a choice has been made, of which I am >> unhappy. > > No choice has been made. I don't know what you're on, but you'd better > put it off. The "I don't know what you're o

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Julien BLACHE
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> He doesn't have to use unstable. He can use pinning for this specific >> package. > > Sure, and he can also use dpkg -i. The question is: why should we ask > him to make the effort? He is using testing. We never made any commitment wrt availability in

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 01:28:42PM +, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > 2) The obvious solution is to add SATA disks to the buildds, this is >currently in the works. rem.rfc822.org done since 2008-02-22 - 120GB PATA Disk on a Promise UDMA 133 Controller. > 1) Upgrades to 1-2 GB RAM are also currentl

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat March 1 2008 21:09:27 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > So, every change in dpkg code is *always* completely obvious, and you never > need any extra information that is not in a comment? > > Really? If some dpkg team members cannot be trusted to comment their code, then they cannot be tr