Bug#427871: ITP: skytools -- Skytools is tools for replication and failover

2007-06-06 Thread Fernando Ike de Oliveira
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fernando Ike de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: skytools Version : 2.1.4 Upstream Author : Marko Kreen, Skype Technologies * URL : http://pgfoundry.org/projects/skytools/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 06/06/07 17:59, Michael Vogt wrote: >> I would also love to find a way in the future to interface with the >> aptitude dependency problem resolver (that is superiour to the one in >> libapt). > Is this the same dependency resolver that tries to remove

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/06/07 17:59, Michael Vogt wrote: [snip] term. I would also love to find a way in the future to interface with the aptitude dependency problem resolver (that is superiour to the one in libapt). Is this the same dependency resolver that tries to remove half your packages as a result of the

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 21:49:00 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Michael Vogt wrote: > > - support for the new dpkg "Breaks" field (thanks to Ian Jackson for > > his work on this) > > Although dpkg still doesn't have Breaks support, so we still can't use > it, AFAIK.. It will have on 1.14.5. regards,

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Vogt wrote: > - support for the new dpkg "Breaks" field (thanks to Ian Jackson for > his work on this) Although dpkg still doesn't have Breaks support, so we still can't use it, AFAIK.. > - automatic installation of recommends like aptitude I want to check how this will affect d-i. The

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:14:31PM +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : > > Some thoughts on constraints: Hi all, there has been much brainstorming since the begining of this thread, so I tried to summarise grossly the ideas on the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/DataPackages Unfortunately, I will not

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Michael, On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:59:38AM +0200, Michael Vogt wrote: > I plan to do an apt 0.7.2 upload for sid this weekend. It's a big merge > of the version in debian/experimental and the version in Ubuntu. > It will break the ABI, so all packages that depend on libapt will need > a rebu

APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-06 Thread Michael Vogt
Dear Friends, I plan to do an apt 0.7.2 upload for sid this weekend. It's a big merge of the version in debian/experimental and the version in Ubuntu. It will break the ABI, so all packages that depend on libapt will need a rebuild against this version (so expect a bit of a transition until ever

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 02:33:58PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > Consider cases where you want to declare that more than one package > > > > satisfies the dependency -- we do have libraries using that today in > > > > their > > > > shlibs. I do

Bug#427850: ITP: libhpricot-ruby -- A fast, flexible HTML parser for Ruby

2007-06-06 Thread Daigo Moriwaki
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daigo Moriwaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libhpricot-ruby Version : 0.5.140 Upstream Author : why the lucky stiff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/hpricot/ * License : BSD Programmin

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:53:41PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:55:28PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2007 at 17:50:26 +, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > Just as better alternative IMHO, please consider using `eu-readelf -ds` > > > from elfutils. > > elfu

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Oleg Verych
* From: Julien Cristau > Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.general > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2007 at 17:50:26 +, Oleg Verych wrote: > >> Just as better alternative IMHO, please consider using `eu-readelf -ds` >> from elfutils. > > elfutils isn't build-essential. binutils is, and does the job, so "

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:55:28PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2007 at 17:50:26 +, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > Just as better alternative IMHO, please consider using `eu-readelf -ds` > > from elfutils. > > elfutils isn't build-essential. binutils is, and does the job, so "it's

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jun 6, 2007 at 17:50:26 +, Oleg Verych wrote: > Just as better alternative IMHO, please consider using `eu-readelf -ds` > from elfutils. elfutils isn't build-essential. binutils is, and does the job, so "it's better IMHO" isn't a particularly compelling reason to make all packages bu

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Oleg Verych
* From: Steve Langasek * Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 03:34:59 -0700 [] > FWIW, in the prototyping I did in the unixodbc package I made the symbol > version and the symbol name two separate fields separated by whitespace, > because this made it easier to generate files of this format with objdump -T > and

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum packagesize ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Luis Matos wrote: > can we have a per packge permission set??? > kind of users can update package X and Y I proposed something like this a long time ago, but it met with a mostly negative response, so I never went to the trouble of starting an implementation. If you're interested, the email

Bug#427814: RFH: stfl -- structured terminal forms language/library

2007-06-06 Thread Nico Golde
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the stfl package. The package description is: stfl is a library which implements a curses-based widget set for text terminals. . This package contains the development files required to build software that uses libstfl. .

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Tim Cutts
On 6 Jun 2007, at 12:00 pm, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: ... (some interesting points) There were many valid points in your mail but even if the issue was raised at the example of biological data it is a more general issue for others as well. It might be that we

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Luis Matos
Frank Küster escreveu: Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: (aside: I'd love it if we could have some sort of "user package" system which could allow non-root users to install software packages in areas they have access to, and yet have full de

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > We could then have the package field contain multiple packages (separated > > by "," or "|" or whatever) and have dpkg-shlibdeps generate pkg1 (>= > > min-ver) | pkg2 (>= min-ver). > > I don't think so; at

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Frank Küster
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: > >> (aside: I'd love it if we could have some sort of "user package" >> system which could allow non-root users to install software packages >> in areas they have access to, and yet have full dependency checking >> on

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Consider cases where you want to declare that more than one package > > > satisfies the dependency -- we do have libraries using that today in their > > > shlibs. I do think it's necessary here to support the full range of > > > dependency semantics

Re: Bug#427605: ITP: privbind -- Allow unprivileged apps to bind to a privileged port

2007-06-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 06 June 2007 20:05, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> What benefits does this offer over authbind which has been in Debian for >>> ages? >>> Before I begin answering your questions, the bug report has a link to technical explanation of ho

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:15:02AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Now, if we have people store symbols in shlibs file, it means that > > dh_installdeb would install the shlibs file with symbols. That could be > > almost enough except that we really wa

Re: Bug#427605: ITP: privbind -- Allow unprivileged apps to bind to a privileged port

2007-06-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 20:05, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What benefits does this offer over authbind which has been in Debian for > > ages? > > It uses a (I think) much more secure mode of operation. In particular: > - No SUID executables > - User who launches the daemon must

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:42:55PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > It would be much more worth to drop the package name from the > > > dependencies. Except a few corner cases (which could probably be > > > worked around some other way), they are alwa

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > We could then have the package field contain multiple packages (separated > by "," or "|" or whatever) and have dpkg-shlibdeps generate pkg1 (>= > min-ver) | pkg2 (>= min-ver). I don't think so; at least sometimes you want to depend on non-versionne

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > It would be much more worth to drop the package name from the > > dependencies. Except a few corner cases (which could probably be > > worked around some other way), they are always the package name > > inside which the library is... > > > The >= is a

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: ... (some interesting points) There were many valid points in your mail but even if the issue was raised at the example of biological data it is a more general issue for others as well. It might be that we could: 0. Find a solution for large data sets i

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: > (aside: I'd love it if we could have some sort of "user package" > system which could allow non-root users to install software packages > in areas they have access to, and yet have full dependency checking > on the main system packages) dpkg --admindir=$HOME

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-06 Thread Frank Küster
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously, this strongly increases the size that would be taken on the > mirrors. Also, in the (mid-term) future, Debian can have many more > mainstream tools, and I am quite sure that they do not all use the same > format. So there is the risk of a pack

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:53:22AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > What you propose would look like: > libc 6 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 > Because of the "^\s*" you can't use starting spaces as a differentiating > factor. The lines wit

Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Tim Cutts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5 Jun 2007, at 9:47 pm, Roger Leigh wrote: Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:28:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:07AM +0200, Michael Hanke a ?crit : My question is now: Is it r

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:15:02AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Now, if we have people store symbols in shlibs file, it means that > dh_installdeb would install the shlibs file with symbols. That could be > almost enough except that we really want a check that the information > stored in those f

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:14:18PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:02:59PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [1] #363133 > > [2] Would it be worthwhile to support multiple symbols on one line to > > save even more space? > > symbol [symbol...] de

Re: Bug#427680: RFH: moc -- ncurses based console audio player

2007-06-06 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 the mental interface of Elimar Riesebieter told: [...] > Is someone out there to give me a hint? Done with flac 1.1.4-2. Thanks Joshua ;) Elimar -- Alles was viel bedacht wird ist bedenklich!;-) Friedrich Nietzsche -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Bug#427605: ITP: privbind -- Allow unprivileged apps to bind to a privileged port

2007-06-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Russell Coker wrote: > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 16:52, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Package: wnpp >> Severity: wishlist >> Owner: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > What benefits does this offer over authbind which has been in Debian for ages? > > It uses a (I t

Re: Bug#427605: ITP: privbind -- Allow unprivileged apps to bind to a privileged port

2007-06-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 16:52, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What benefits does this offer over authbind which has been in Debian for ages? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Bl

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 01:32:34PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > Debug packages: (369MB) (not arch:all) > > 53959746 boson-dbg > > 55430908 icedove-dbg > > 56274922 koffice-dbg > > 59787420 iceape-dbg > > 86404478 libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:02:59PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [1] #363133 > [2] Would it be worthwhile to support multiple symbols on one line to > save even more space? > symbol [symbol...] dependencies... It would be much more worth to drop the package name from the

Re: How is bugs.txt generated on qa.d.o ?

2007-06-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:38:47AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > How is generated the following file ? > http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/results/bugs.txt > > I'm asking because it usually happens that it contains broken entries, > such as, currently: > information:===

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007, Joey Hess wrote: > It seems that this could be extended to include symbol information: > > [package-type:] library-name soname-version-number dependencies... > [symbol dependencies...] > [...] > > Like the package-type extension, this extra information will be > t

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007, Joey Hess wrote: > Note that policy doesn't fully document[1] the current shlibs format, > which is: > > [package-type:] library-name soname-version-number dependencies... > > It seems that this could be extended to include symbol information: > > [package-type:] library-nam