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Dear Charles,
Am So den 3. Jun 2007 um 9:00 schrieb Charles Plessy:
> I have very bad feelings when I read the name of this game. It is a very
> bad taste play on the word "sturmbahnführer", which is a rank which was
> only awarded in the SS divisio
> Frankly, helping vendors of non-free software lies far below the
> ability to provide our users the option to do partial upgrades,
> apt-pinning, etc.
>
> If we are not going to impact the utility to the users; I am
> indifferent to adding things to help non-free software ve
Hi,
Am Montag, 4. Juni 2007 02:45:07 schrieb Wouter Verhelst:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> What I was trying to show is that the relevance of a copyright case
> brought against you in a jurisdiction outside of
> > You're *not* giving up the right not to distribute any source, because
> > you can always refrain from distributing the corresponding binaries and
> > have no obligation to provide source.
> >
> > You're *not* giving up the right to distribute binaries without
> > distributing the corresponding
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Isn't this just a standard blackletter font?
Well, I don't know much about standard fonts - it just reminds me
to the font that was prefered in a time were the name similarity
perfectly fits into. So if somebody might use a name that leads
to irr
On 5/31/07, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
Anyone knows why the popcon graphs on:
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package= are
missing?
This seems to explain the problem:
GET
'http://people.debian.org/~igloo/popcon-graphs/graph.php?packages=vtun&show_installed=1&show_vote=1&show_ol
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 02:45 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> What I was trying to show is that the relevance of a copyright case
> brought against you in a jurisdiction outside of your immediate concern
> is zero, for all practical matters; that means you can simply ignore it,
> and nothing Bad will
Wouter Verhelst writes:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:28:22AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
>> Anthony Towns writes:
>>
>> > I don't think that's meaningful; if I sue you in a court in Australia
>> > for not complying with debootstrap's license, and they find that you've
>> > infringed the license,
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > If you get sued and convicted as a private person in a jurisdiction that
> > is not yours, there are two possible outcomes:
> > * You try to defend yourself, and might win or lose depend
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:31:18AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100
> Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Based on a relational database it will run faster, also there should be
> > some more data stored about the programs to facilitate system restoring.
>
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:22:46PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote:
> Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> > that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> > database, for several reasons.
>
> Before reading on, have you
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 01:30:39PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:37:08PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:02:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Right, I read your message too quickly, sorry. However the maintainer
> >
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> If you get sued and convicted as a private person in a jurisdiction that
> is not yours, there are two possible outcomes:
> * You try to defend yourself, and might win or lose depending on the
> case. If you go to the jurisdiction where you are being
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:28:22AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
> Anthony Towns writes:
>
> > I don't think that's meaningful; if I sue you in a court in Australia
> > for not complying with debootstrap's license, and they find that you've
> > infringed the license, it doesn't really matter if I'm
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 01:18:56AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 21:46:30 +0200 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> [...]
> > If it isn't, then the GPL
> > is also non-free, by the very same rationale: the fact that you are
> > required to produce source when so asked if you do distribu
On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 12:49 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> > ...
> > This is only my (ill-informed) opinion - I am neither a German, nor a
> > German lawyer :)
>
> I'm not really picky about names and would be quite relaxed if the official
> homepag
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 21:46:30 +0200 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
[...]
> If it isn't, then the GPL
> is also non-free, by the very same rationale: the fact that you are
> required to produce source when so asked if you do distribute binaries
> from source under the GPL means that you are giving up a right
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:16:08 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Since when do programs == package? You don't seem to understand that
> I'm talking in a generic way about software. Actually, I'm mainly
> talking about software which is *not* part of the package manag
On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 23:16 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:14:16PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> > > We are not telling the user, we are telling *programs* what environment
> > > they
> > > are
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:51:24PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 07:52:40PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 19:32 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> > > Pierre explained that a sane library maintainer could/would use a new
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On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:14:16PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> > We are not telling the user, we are telling *programs* what environment they
> > are in.
>
> That's the fundamental mistake I see here: We should not be telling
> programs
Warren Turkal wrote:
On Saturday 02 June 2007 21:45, Russ Allbery wrote:
Take a look at runit. It's quite a bit like daemontools without the weird
licensing.
Runit doesn't appear to be useful for non-system tasks, like starting jackd
and restarting it if it dies (i.e. on suspend/resume).
T
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:47:20 +0200
> Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > What about embedded systems that can barely run sqlite?
>>
>> Is sqlite really *that* heavyweight?
>
> No, that's why it is used in some embedded systems. Even so, it h
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 07:52:40PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 19:32 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> > Pierre explained that a sane library maintainer could/would use a new
> > version associated to the symbol even the ABI hasn't changed so that any
> > applicatio
On Sunday 03 June 2007 21:30:26 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Even if SQLite is more robust than Berkeley DB, I don't think you could
> recover anything from a corrupt database. Plain text will always turn
> out better in terms of disaster recovery. If performance is an issue, a
> text file can - just
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Hallo,
On 6/3/07, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - in case of an upgrade RDBMSs often dump there databases and import
>them. What will happen when the upgrade fails during this? No
>package database would be really bad
What is the problem with having an internal embedded
#include
* Joey Schulze [Sun, Jun 03 2007, 12:22:46PM]:
> Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> > that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> > database, for several reasons.
>
> Before reading on, have you consi
Miriam Ruiz wrote:
--- Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
Le Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:30:43AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz a écrit :
Package: wnpp * Package name: sturmbahnfahrer
Dear Miriam,
I have very bad feelings when I read the name of this game. It is a
very bad taste play on the wo
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:29:08PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
[...]
> Choice of venue clauses can short circuit the normal determination of
> jurisdiction in civil cases in some jurisdictions in some cases. In
[...]
> Since this is giving up a right normally enjoyed in exchange for the
> ability t
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 06:20:47PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Despite its ugliness, the only proposed solution that works so far is to
> touch the libgstgnomevfs.so file in libgnomevfs2-extra's postinst (and
> the same for other packages providing GnomeVFS methods), so that its
> timestamp ch
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 21:17 +0200, sean finney a écrit :
> and if you read the dpkg devel thread that spawned this (don't think it was
> referenced yet in this thread, but it has been referenced the last time or
> two dpkg has been brought up on -devel), you'll see that i'm not particularly
On Sunday 03 June 2007 14:35:07 Neil Williams wrote:
> > http://people.debian.org/~seanius/dpkg-sqlite/
>
> Umm, that uses python to create the database - if there are problems
> putting sqlite into a rootfs, there is NO place for python!! Emdebian
> is removing perl from essential, let alone pyth
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 14:50 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit :
> > Despite its ugliness, the only proposed solution that works so far is to
> > touch the libgstgnomevfs.so file in libgnomevfs2-extra's postinst (and
> > the same for other packages providing GnomeVFS methods), so that its
> > t
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 06:20:47PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there is a problem with the GnomeVFS GStreamer plugin. When a new
> GnomeVFS module (providing new URI methods) is installed, GStreamer
> doesn't become aware of it because its own list doesn't change. See
> #426694 for de
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Debian does accept the CDDL as a free license (at least when the
> > choice of venue is Berlin).
>
> Indeed; I wasn't aware of the CDDL ever being accepted in main; had I
> paid more attention to it, I would
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:28:04AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > If the author of Star decides that the Debian maintainer has
> > incorrectly removed a "copyright notice",[1] he could terminate the
> > license under 6.1,
[...]
> Should someone be wil
--- Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> Le Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:30:43AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz a écrit :
> > Package: wnpp
> > * Package name: sturmbahnfahrer
>
> Dear Miriam,
>
> I have very bad feelings when I read the name of this game. It is a very
> bad taste play on the word
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 19:32 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> Pierre explained that a sane library maintainer could/would use a new
> version associated to the symbol even the ABI hasn't changed so that any
> application linked against the newer version get to effectively depend
> on the new
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:02:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Right, I read your message too quickly, sorry. However the maintainer
> > can change the symbols file in his package and update the dependency
> > associated to this symbol and make su
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Hi,
there is a problem with the GnomeVFS GStreamer plugin. When a new
GnomeVFS module (providing new URI methods) is installed, GStreamer
doesn't become aware of it because its own list doesn't change. See
#426694 for details. Because the GStreamer registry is per-user, it
isn't possible to regene
Anthony Towns writes:
> I don't think that's meaningful; if I sue you in a court in Australia
> for not complying with debootstrap's license, and they find that you've
> infringed the license, it doesn't really matter if I'm doing that out
> of maliciousness or a genuine. And as far as the actual
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On Saturday 02 June 2007 14:58, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 18:03 +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> > Many applications allow their functionality to be extended by means of
> > plugins, often in the form of libraries that the application dlopen()s.
> > Usually the application provide
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Le vendredi 01 juin 2007 à 18:03 +0200, Magnus Holmgren a écrit :
> Many applications allow their functionality to be extended by means of
> plugins, often in the form of libraries that the application dlopen()s.
> Usually the application provides an API, and like other APIs these APIs (and
> AB
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:28:04AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> If the author of Star decides that the Debian maintainer has
> incorrectly removed a "copyright notice",[1] he could terminate the
> license under 6.1,
He could claim the license is terminated under 6.1, but presumably the
Debian ma
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 04:51:40AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:25:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Additionally, personally I don't think it's unreasonable for people to
> > say "if you use my software in a way that I didn't want you to, I'll sue
> > you in a cou
On 11039 March 1977, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>> So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send this
>> idea
>> to?
> I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list are
> not the ones developing our core software.
How about not posting if you dont have anything u
Is this the correct mailing list to send this idea to?
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Hi,
Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote:
> For a little silly experiment, I would like to know whether someone
> still has the official debs of Buzz and Rex around.
I finally got around to read out my old "rex" CD.
Torrent can be found at http://honey.hogyros.de/debian-rex.iso.torrent .
Have fun,
Simon
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 00:33 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> That a poster to debian-legal doesn't think a license meets the DFSG
> isn't particularly useful information, and is even less so when that
> poster isn't a DD, a maintainer or someone in the n-m queue.
You really can't refrain, can
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 10:55 +0100, Justin Emmanuel a écrit :
> > So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send this
> > idea to?
>
> I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list are
> not the ones developing
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:35:07 +0100
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I disagree. Emdebian uses SQLite to store package data
on the emdebian.org server (running Etch), not on the devices,
> and just 1,000
> packages takes 1.5Mb. The entire /var/lib/dpkg/available file on this
> full Debi
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:47:20 +0200
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What about embedded systems that can barely run sqlite?
>
> Is sqlite really *that* heavyweight?
No, that's why it is used in some embedded systems. Even so, it has no
place in the rootfs for an embedded system, IMHO
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 01:55:12PM +0200, Lars Schimmer wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:11:36AM +0100, Lars Schimmer wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> Because of some dumbfold (self created) problems, I am willing to test
> >> the 0.9.9 version.
> >> Is there any .deb availab
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:25:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Additionally, personally I don't think it's unreasonable for people to
> say "if you use my software in a way that I didn't want you to, I'll sue
> you in a court that works by a set of rules that I'm actually
> comfortable with". Y
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:31:18AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100
> Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> > that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> > databa
also sprach Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.03.1314 +0200]:
> > So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send
> > this idea to?
>
> I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list
> are not the ones developing our core software.
Dude, there is no n
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:37:08PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:02:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Right, I read your message too quickly, sorry. However the maintainer
> > can change the symbols file in his package and update the dependency
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 10:55 +0100, Justin Emmanuel a écrit :
> So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send this
> idea
> to?
I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list are
not the ones developing our core software.
--
.''`.
: :' : We are debia
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
...
This is only my (ill-informed) opinion - I am neither a German, nor a
German lawyer :)
I'm not really picky about names and would be quite relaxed if the official
homepage http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/ would not support the suspicion
by using
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:02:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Right, I read your message too quickly, sorry. However the maintainer
> can change the symbols file in his package and update the dependency
> associated to this symbol and make sure that a binary using this symbol
> will depend on
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:24:04PM +0200, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> also sprach Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.03.1155 +0200]:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an
> > idea that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to
> > a r
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100
Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> database, for several reasons.
What about embedded systems that can barely ru
Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> database, for several reasons.
Before reading on, have you considered the following:
- using an RDB requires a running RDBMS
- run
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:54:36AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> > 3. Nexenta: Despite their incompatibility, Debian accepts both the
> > CDDL and GPLv2 as valid free software licences and would welcome any
> > solution to the distribution of a Debian
also sprach Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.03.1155 +0200]:
> I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an
> idea that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to
> a relational database, for several reasons.
Having something as essential as the dpkg database d
I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
database, for several reasons.
Based on a relational database it will run faster, also there should be
some more data stored about the programs to facilitate syst
* Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070603 05:49]:
> On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:30:56PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> > Count me in. I don't feel comfortable with choose-of-venue at all.
>
> This attitude is exactly why there's a disconnect between regular posters
> and subscribers to debian-le
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 04:00:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:30:43AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz a écrit :
> > Package: wnpp
> > * Package name: sturmbahnfahrer
>
> Dear Miriam,
>
> I have very bad feelings when I read the name of this game. It is a very
> bad taste pla
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 11:24:19PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote:
> >the name of the new library is still in flux, and maybe it'll end up
> >with the name 'libept' and replacing the libept we have now.
> I have to admit, that with "libpkg" I'd expect to find something
> working on the actual package
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 04:00:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:30:43AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz a écrit :
> > Package: wnpp
> > * Package name: sturmbahnfahrer
>
> Dear Miriam,
>
> I have very bad feelings when I read the name of this game. It is a very
> bad taste pla
Since it was requested, allow me to put forward a simple example of a
case where choice of venue coupled with choice of law is suboptimal.
Star is licensed under a modified CDDL license, which specifies
Berlin, Germany as the choice of law and venue.
If the author of Star decides that the Debian
On Jun 2, 2:15pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Actually, I must take this back; it's almost certain that ftpmaster
> > did not approve this,
> Er, isn't that what AJ's closure message *is*?
It most certainly is.
Pawel
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Le Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:30:43AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz a écrit :
> Package: wnpp
> * Package name: sturmbahnfahrer
Dear Miriam,
I have very bad feelings when I read the name of this game. It is a very
bad taste play on the word "sturmbahnführer", which is a rank which was
only awarded in the S
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