Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:29:08PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > Choice of venue clauses can short circuit the normal determination of > jurisdiction in civil cases in some jurisdictions in some cases. Contracts and licenses in general short-circuit the normal determination of rights under common

Re: start-stop-daemon for user processes

2007-06-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 02 June 2007 23:03, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Could you say more about why not?  It looked to me like you could use >> its supervise equivalent without the whole init replacement stuff. > I took a closer look. It looked like the runit wanted to

Re: start-stop-daemon for user processes

2007-06-02 Thread Warren Turkal
On Saturday 02 June 2007 23:03, Russ Allbery wrote: > Could you say more about why not?  It looked to me like you could use its > supervise equivalent without the whole init replacement stuff. I took a closer look. It looked like the runit wanted to replace init entirely. I don't see how to separ

Re: start-stop-daemon for user processes

2007-06-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 02 June 2007 21:45, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Take a look at runit.  It's quite a bit like daemontools without the >> weird licensing. > Runit doesn't appear to be useful for non-system tasks, like starting > jackd and restarting it if it dies

Re: start-stop-daemon for user processes

2007-06-02 Thread Warren Turkal
On Saturday 02 June 2007 21:45, Russ Allbery wrote: > Take a look at runit.  It's quite a bit like daemontools without the weird > licensing. Runit doesn't appear to be useful for non-system tasks, like starting jackd and restarting it if it dies (i.e. on suspend/resume). wt -- Warren Turkal

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > How you feel about a license isn't any more important than the other > people's feelings that happen to be opposite to you. The above isn't > analysis, it's grandstanding. My mistake; I assumed the references I provided earlier to the analysis done in 20

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 11:10:19AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:40:36PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > >> I do *not* agree that the CDDL meets the DFSG, especially when a choice > >> of venue is in place. > > That a poster to debian-legal doesn'

Re: start-stop-daemon for user processes

2007-06-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there anything like daemontools in main? I would like it to work with > user processes. I would like to use it to make sure a user process stays > running while I am logged in. Does anyone have any suggestions? Take a look at runit. It's quite a bit

start-stop-daemon for user processes

2007-06-02 Thread Warren Turkal
Hello, Is there anything like daemontools in main? I would like it to work with user processes. I would like to use it to make sure a user process stays running while I am logged in. Does anyone have any suggestions? wt -- Warren Turkal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a s

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 10:13:56AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > > debian-devel re-added. > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:40:36PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > > On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:50:15 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:

Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sturmbahnfahrer Version : 1.3 Upstream Author : Bram Stolk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description

Promethee a Virtual Learning Environement (VLE)

2007-06-02 Thread lambda
>Is this software only in French or also in English ? The entire project will be internationalyzed in five languages at the end of the month ;-) >Does this software need php4 or does the software also work with php5 ? >php4 is going away, stating that your package works with it seems kind of >us

Bug#427295: ITP: pgbouncer -- Lightweight connection pooler for PostgreSQL

2007-06-02 Thread Fernando Ike de Oliveira
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fernando Ike de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pgbouncer Version : 1.0.7 Upstream Author : Sven Suursoho, Marko Kreen * URL : http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgbouncer * License : BSD Programming Lang: C D

Bug#427293: ITP: plproxy -- PL/Proxy is a proxy language used for remote database

2007-06-02 Thread Fernando Ike de Oliveira
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fernando Ike de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: plproxy Version : 2.0.2 Upstream Author : Sven Suursoho, Marko Kreen * URL : http://pgfoundry.org/projects/plproxy/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Desc

Bug#427288: ITP: ntfs-config -- enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices

2007-06-02 Thread Francesco Namuri
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: ntfs-config Version : 1.0-RC2 Upstream Author : Florent Mertens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://givre.cabspace.com/ntfs-config License : GPL Programming Lang: Py

Re: libpkg / libupt / libept gets popcon support

2007-06-02 Thread Erich Schubert
Hi Enrico, Keep up the good work. :-) the name of the new library is still in flux, and maybe it'll end up with the name 'libept' and replacing the libept we have now. I have to admit, that with "libpkg" I'd expect to find something working on the actual packages, whereas your library is worki

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 12:12:14PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > That said, can the ftpmaster who approved the inclusion of star in > > > main speak up and give their rationale? > > > Actually, I must ta

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Michael Poole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Jun 02, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> A blatant appeal to authority in place of facts or analysis isn't >> particularly useful information, and is even less so when arguments >> for the contrary position have been made but not answered. > s/arguments/

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 12:12:14PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > > That said, can the ftpmaster who approved the inclusion of star in > > main speak up and give their rationale? > Actually, I must take this back; it's almost certain that ftpmaster > did

Re: Bug#427248: ITP: promethee -- a productive numeric working space

2007-06-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 2, 2007 at 11:50:45 -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: > "lambda (sbrice)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Description : A productive numeric working space > > > > promethee is an all-inclusive education project (called numeric > > working space) which support school managing and > > i

Bug#427258: ITP: gaphas -- diagramming canvas

2007-06-02 Thread Cedric Delfosse
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Cedric Delfosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gaphas Version : 0.1.4 Upstream Author : Arjan Molenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/gaphas * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Python

Bug#427255: ITP: libfreemarker-java -- a template engine written in Java

2007-06-02 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libfreemarker-java Version : 2.3.10 Upstream Author : The Visigoth Software Society * URL : http://www.freemarker.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Java Descripti

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Don Armstrong
reopen 350624 thanks On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > That said, can the ftpmaster who approved the inclusion of star in > main speak up and give their rationale? Actually, I must take this back; it's almost certain that ftpmaster did not approve this, because the work when originally

Re: Bug#427248: ITP: promethee -- a productive numeric working space

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
"lambda (sbrice)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Description : A productive numeric working space > > promethee is an all-inclusive education project (called numeric > working space) which support school managing and What is a numeric working space? You don't say, and the URL that you poin

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-06-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:38:46PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 16:22 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2007 at 15:15:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > #382607 (CVE-2006-4041) has apparently not been touched in 9 months. > > > This is probably mitigated by

Bug#427248: ITP: promethee -- a productive numeric working space

2007-06-02 Thread lambda (sbrice)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "lambda (sbrice)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: promethee Version : 5.7rc1 Upstream Author : Dominique Laporte & his team * URL : http://www.promethee.eu.org/ * License : (GPL) Programming Lang: (PHP, JS) Descri

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > debian-devel re-added. > On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:40:36PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:50:15 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:54:36AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > and to the best of my knowled

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 02, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A blatant appeal to authority in place of facts or analysis isn't > particularly useful information, and is even less so when arguments > for the contrary position have been made but not answered. s/arguments/opinions/ -- ciao, Marco signat

Bug#427238: ITP: dbi-link -- A partial implementation of SQL/MED to PostgreSQL

2007-06-02 Thread Fernando Ike de Oliveira
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fernando Ike de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dbi-link Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pgfoundry.org/projects/dbi-link/ * License : (BSD) Programming Lan

Re: Bug#427216: ITP: gtkol-ldap -- GtkOL-LDAP is a LDAP client based on GtkOL.

2007-06-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 05:30:48PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 02:34:28PM +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Package name: gtkol-ldap > > Version : 1.1 > >

Re: Bug#427216: ITP: gtkol-ldap -- GtkOL-LDAP is a LDAP client based on GtkOL.

2007-06-02 Thread Christian Surchi
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 02:34:28PM +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Package name: gtkol-ldap > Version : 1.1 > Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > URL : http://www.examp

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Michael Poole
Anthony Towns writes: > debian-devel re-added. > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:40:36PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:50:15 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: >> > On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:54:36AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >> > > and to the best of my knowledge, works licensed so

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns
debian-devel re-added. On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:40:36PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:50:15 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:54:36AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > and to the best of my knowledge, works licensed solely under the > > > CDDL have

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 16:22 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2007 at 15:15:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > #382607 (CVE-2006-4041) has apparently not been touched in 9 months. > > This is probably mitigated by the fix for #368645 (CVE-2006-2314), but > > this was never confirmed

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-06-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 2, 2007 at 15:15:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > #382607 (CVE-2006-4041) has apparently not been touched in 9 months. > This is probably mitigated by the fix for #368645 (CVE-2006-2314), but > this was never confirmed. > The security tracker lists this as "unimportant", with a note

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 18:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:58:02AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > > What evidence do you have that serious security bugs "won't get > > > > > fixed" in a > > > > > stable release because of MIA developers? > > > > > Search for "years

Re: Plugin API/ABI versions

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 18:03 +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > Many applications allow their functionality to be extended by means of > plugins, often in the form of libraries that the application dlopen()s. > Usually the application provides an API, and like other APIs these APIs (and > ABIs) can

Bug#427216: ITP: gtkol-ldap -- GtkOL-LDAP is a LDAP client based on GtkOL.

2007-06-02 Thread Francesco Namuri
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: gtkol-ldap Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.example.org/ License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : GtkOL-LD

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2007-06-02 Thread Makayla
all of the products you were searching for last week... you asked us where to find them, and we have searched to bring you the results terewte.info trust us, it's the only place you will be able to get these items

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-02 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:31:48 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > There are already RSS feeds for NEW. > where? it is not linked from new.html I know at least: Packages entering NEW: http://people.debian.org/~filippo/NEWrss/new_in.rss Packages leaving NEW: http://people.debian.org/~filippo/NEWr

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:54:36AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > and to the best of my knowledge, works licensed solely under the CDDL > have never been accepted in main.[1] star | 1.5a57-1 | oldstable | source, alpha, arm, [...] star | 1.5a67-1 | stable | source, alpha, amd64, [...] http://packa

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 02:53:43PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On ti, 2007-05-22 at 13:30 +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > > 1. The GPLv3: the latest draft did not raise major objections from > > -legal and despite its concerns with the strategies developed in some > > sections, Debian does con

Re: etch-proposed-updates amd64 Release file fails checksum [Was: possible problem with ftp.us.debian.org]

2007-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 04:57:46PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > More than a month ago I filed a bug report > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418956 Sorry about that, fixed now. (The daily regeneration of the Release files wasn't working because the dak script wasn't noticin

Bug#427208: ITP: libjdo-api-java -- implementation of JSR 243: JavaTM Data Objects 2.0

2007-06-02 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libjdo-api-java Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : The Apache Software Foundation * URL : http://db.apache.org/jdo/ * License : Apache Programming Lang: Java Description

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 01 June 2007 20.51:27 Kris Deugau wrote: > Instead, we try to make them work > > > as far as their dependencies are met. > > ... which means what, exactly, if my program expects > /usr/lib/apache2/suexec but the system (stock Debian sarge) only has > /usr/lib/apache2/suexec2?  Or vice ve

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 22.46:30 Kris Deugau wrote: > I've been writing custom utilities and libraries for various systems at > work, and with one particular project recently it's become (more) > important to know exactly which Debian release it's running on (at some > stage or other between versi

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-02 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sat Jun 02, 2007 at 11:18:00 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11037 March 1977, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > This could be realized by patching helena[1], eg. to produce a RSS like > > output, so an automated parsing of PackageName and PackageVersion in NEW > > could be done. I will ha

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-02 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11037 March 1977, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > This could be realized by patching helena[1], eg. to produce a RSS like > output, so an automated parsing of PackageName and PackageVersion in NEW > could be done. I will have a look into that during the weekend. Should > be mostly trivial. There a

Re: ADV: Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-02 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:54:03PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > Hmm. Not explicitly stated, nor really implied, but several people > commented that a system may have backported packages, packages from > testing/unstable/experimental, software that's installed from source and > which the package ma

Re: ldbl128 transition for alpha, powerpc, sparc, s390

2007-06-02 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Matthias Klose wrote: > I plan to submit bug reports with severity `serious' for all source > packages matching the above description (although if somebody wants to > handle this transition, please go ahead). > > cfortran Probably a false positive, as it is an arch:all package (just a header file

Re: ldbl128 transition for alpha, powerpc, sparc, s390

2007-06-02 Thread Andreas Metzler
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With glibc-2.5 and gcc-4.1.2 (and gcc-4.2), the `long double' data > type did change from a 64bit representation to a 128bit representation > on alpha, powerpc, sparc, s390. To allow partial upgrades of packages, > we w

Re: ADV: Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:54:03 -0400, Kris Deugau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Frank Lichtenheld wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:51:27PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: >>> (Mildly amusing sidenote to this discussion: I'm finally convincing >>> the senior systems guy that Packages Are Good, and now d