Re: Can/should debconf notes still be used?

2007-05-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:22:10PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 May 2007, Frank Küster wrote: > >> To me, the solution is to resurrect these conffiles without > >> prompting, because prompting doesn't make sense if the only working > >> ans

Bug#426625: marked as done (general: /etc/adjtime etc. wetbacks)

2007-05-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 30 May 2007 08:14:36 +0300 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#426625: general: /etc/adjtime etc. wetbacks has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case i

Parsing of dpkg status file considered harmful

2007-05-29 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, I've been meaning to send this for some time, but latest docbook-xml upload finally triggered it. Please stop parsing dpkg status file from maintainer scripts. No package should assume its location or format (except for now for package managment frontends and the like, until there's a proper

Purging of unneeded localization (cleaL10n)

2007-05-29 Thread Oleg Verych
Hallo. If somebody is interested, here is a complete rewrite of `localepurge' with small `dpkg-deb' implementation to have this done before unpacking archive on the file system. Reading docs in `localepurge's directory dated six years back, i fail to explain to myself, why this is in so horrible

Bug#426625: general: /etc/adjtime etc. wetbacks

2007-05-29 Thread Dan Jacobson
Package: general Severity: wishlist Files like /etc/adjtime should either be related to some package (searchable via dlocate, etc.) or should have a note inside them saying how they got on our disk: what package brought them there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-05-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:51:38PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > There were some discussions on -private (and possibly here?) earlier in > the year about quality vs quantity of packages. > It should be clear to most developers that our many packages are not all > equal in quality; nor are all main

Re: Bug#426069: ITP: spip -- website engine for publishing

2007-05-29 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Tuesday 29 May 2007 23:12:53 Moritz Muehlenhoff, vous avez écrit : > Romain Beauxis wrote: > > However, I'll contact them and ask for their commitment to solving > > seciruty issues, but I'm quite sure that the main issue remains in the > > hand of the maintainer, to be able to update the packag

Re: Better documenting what does not work in Etch.

2007-05-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Charles Plessy wrote: > - An Etch-centric view of the BTS (user friendly), This is already supported; simply append dist=stable. As far as making it user friendly, it has been a goal of mine to eventually allow users to set cookies to do the distribution selection automatical

Better documenting what does not work in Etch.

2007-05-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear developpers, Since the release, I am using only Etch, and there something frustrating in the fact that discovering and reporting minor problems is not very helpful. What could be the other obvious points of information ? For example, here are the kind of issues I experienced: - Japanese inp

Bug#426613: ITP: gtwitter -- Client for tracking and posting to twitter

2007-05-29 Thread Michael Janssen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gtwitter Version : 0.2.4 Upstream Author : Nil Gradisnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://code.google.com/p/gtwitter * License : GPL Programming Lang: C# Descriptio

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:00:17PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:53:30PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is that > > it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt. > > Where did you hear this? Wo

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 01:02:12AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Anyway, before we get lost in all this prediction stuff, I'm yet to hear > a good reason why we need complete triviality in the access method, as > opposed to the kind of triviality we have had for years now: all that is > necessary to

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:25:21AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > > Well, at least it was different... ftp.debian.org is an even more horrible > > default, because that's burdering one single machine maxing out its FE card, > > where we have a network of >300 mirrors out there that

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 06:37:45PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > It's not unfair to say that web editing is by and large much a easier thing > > compared to coding the C library. Consequently, the number of people who > > know how to do it, as well as the people who *think* they know how to do it,

BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-05-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
There were some discussions on -private (and possibly here?) earlier in the year about quality vs quantity of packages. It should be clear to most developers that our many packages are not all equal in quality; nor are all maintainers. Not everyone is aware that packages in a stable release may ha

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Clint Adams
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:30:23PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > It's not unfair to say that web editing is by and large much a easier thing > compared to coding the C library. Consequently, the number of people who > know how to do it, as well as the people who *think* they know how to do it, > is m

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:48:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Well, at least it was different... ftp.debian.org is an even more horrible > default, because that's burdering one single machine maxing out its FE card, > where we have a network of >300 mirrors out there that are mostly happy > to sha

Re: Is flac still maintained?

2007-05-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:07:03PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > Me too ;) But look: I am maintaining the poor console player moc. > I wnat to provide it with actual interfaces. What do you mean by poor? It's a great player. Thanks for maintaining! Regards, Andrei (happy moc user) -- If y

Re: Bug#426069: ITP: spip -- website engine for publishing

2007-05-29 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Romain Beauxis wrote: > However, I'll contact them and ask for their commitment to solving seciruty > issues, but I'm quite sure that the main issue remains in the hand of the > maintainer, to be able to update the package as soon as they fix anything.. It had too many security problems in 2006.

Re: Is flac still maintained?

2007-05-29 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Tue, 29 May 2007 the mental interface of Steinar H. Gunderson told: [...] > /* Steinar */ > - who gave up waiting for flac and compiled it himself :-) Me too ;) But look: I am maintaining the poor console player moc. I wnat to provide it with actual interfaces. Elimar -- Experience is so

Re: Is flac still maintained?

2007-05-29 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Tue, 29 May 2007 the mental interface of Joshua Kwan told: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:25:46PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > does one know if the projects maintained by Joshua Kwan are still > > in progress? For instance I am waiting for flac 1.1.4 (#411311, 100 > > days old!) > > I'm

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2007-05-29 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Hi, On 4/6/07, Martín Ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi again, On 4/5/07, Martín Ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if I will be able to apply for co-maint, but I started > working a little on triaging. Hope it helps. I've spent a lot of hours working on net-tools bugs, 17

Re: Is flac still maintained?

2007-05-29 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:25:46PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > does one know if the projects maintained by Joshua Kwan are still > in progress? For instance I am waiting for flac 1.1.4 (#411311, 100 > days old!) He was busy with school work last time I asked him, but he definitely still exi

Re: Is flac still maintained?

2007-05-29 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:25:46PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > does one know if the projects maintained by Joshua Kwan are still > in progress? For instance I am waiting for flac 1.1.4 (#411311, 100 > days old!) I'm on it. I just got done with finals a week or so ago, please be patient. I'l

Is flac still maintained?

2007-05-29 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi, does one know if the projects maintained by Joshua Kwan are still in progress? For instance I am waiting for flac 1.1.4 (#411311, 100 days old!) Elimar -- >what IMHO then? IMHO - Inhalation of a Multi-leafed Herbal Opiate ;) --posting from alex in debian-user-- -- To UN

Bug#426590: ITP: kaa-imlib2 -- Imlib2 Wrapper for Python

2007-05-29 Thread Jeremie Corbier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jeremie Corbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kaa-imlib2 Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Authors: Jason Tackaberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://freevo.org/kaa * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Python, C De

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 20:01, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > What was unfair wasn't to say debian-www has issues, it was to put it > on the same level than DSA, and for that I appology to the member of > the www team Thx. pgpdel5FCQMRF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#426581: ITP: meshlab -- System for processing and editing triangular meshes

2007-05-29 Thread Teemu Ikonen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Teemu Ikonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: meshlab Version : 1.1.0b Upstream Author : Paolo Cignoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:10:09PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > How were things working in the debian-glibc CVS? Did accidents or hot > > discussions hapen because of the very opened commit access? > > No more so than happens today with the more closed SVN repo. But it's not necessarily an indic

Re: Yahoo voice-chat client for Debian

2007-05-29 Thread The Fungi
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:23:27PM +0530, arnuld wrote: [...] > Debian repositories do not have any Yahoo Voice-Chat client. Can we > have "Gyach Enhanced" in Debian ? See the WNPP bugs filed for... 220981: ITP gyach-improved (opened 2003, updated 2006) 335174: ITP gyach-improved (opened 20

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:54:34PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the > > > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost > > > > stable (err wait, I wasn't r

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:53:30PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is that > it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt. Where did you hear this? How does all that documentation we have had for years at http://www.debia

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the > > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost > > > stable (err wait, I wasn't reading my calendar properly, we're in 2007 > > > not 1997, sorry). >

Yahoo voice-chat client for Debian

2007-05-29 Thread arnuld
i noticed this: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/index.php it is GPL-ed: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/license.php Debian repositories do not have any Yahoo Voice-Chat client. Can we have "Gyach Enhanced" in Debian ? -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ -- To U

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 09:50:23AM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > > debootstrap: > > uses ftp.debian.org as default mirror. > > debconf questions aside, I think ftp.debian.org is a much saner *default* > than ftp.jp.debian.org. I've always wondered where the later silly default > came fr

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Don Armstrong writes ("Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests"): > On Fri, 18 May 2007, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > The description should not explain what the other package is but > > _what_ it does to the selected package. > > In order to explain what the recommended package does to the > recomm

Re: Can/should debconf notes still be used?

2007-05-29 Thread Frank Küster
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2007, Frank Küster wrote: >> Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Tue, 29 May 2007, Frank Küster wrote: >> >> To me, the solution is to resurrect these conffiles without >> >> prompting, because prompting doesn't make sense if

Re: Making a multi-binary-kernel-module-package

2007-05-29 Thread Sam Morris
On Tue, 29 May 2007 14:18:54 +0200, Pascal Speck wrote: > Yeah, same issue, but where can i get the source of this package with > the /debian/ directory and all files. In Sources of these Programst the > /debian directory is always missing. > > Greez Pascal A debian source package consists of an

Re: Making a multi-binary-kernel-module-package

2007-05-29 Thread Pascal Speck
Yeah, same issue, but where can i get the source of this package with the /debian/ directory and all files. In Sources of these Programst the /debian directory is always missing. Greez Pascal Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 11:55 + schrieb Sune Vuorela: > On 2007-05-29, Pascal Speck <[EMAIL PR

Re: Making a multi-binary-kernel-module-package

2007-05-29 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-05-29, Pascal Speck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, i have a big problem with debian packaging. > I need to create debian packages of a program i've written, but i don't > know how to solve the following problem. > > I want to have one Source Tree with a Subdirectory Drivers. > When d

Making a multi-binary-kernel-module-package

2007-05-29 Thread Pascal Speck
Hello, i have a big problem with debian packaging. I need to create debian packages of a program i've written, but i don't know how to solve the following problem. I want to have one Source Tree with a Subdirectory Drivers. When doin a dpkg-buildpackage, two packages should be built. One of the

Re: Can/should debconf notes still be used?

2007-05-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Frank Küster wrote: > Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 29 May 2007, Frank Küster wrote: > >> To me, the solution is to resurrect these conffiles without > >> prompting, because prompting doesn't make sense if the only working > >> answer is "yes". > > > >

Re: Can/should debconf notes still be used?

2007-05-29 Thread Frank Küster
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2007, Frank Küster wrote: >> To me, the solution is to resurrect these conffiles without >> prompting, because prompting doesn't make sense if the only working >> answer is "yes". > > Can you test to see if the system is working without th

Re: Can/should debconf notes still be used?

2007-05-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Frank Küster wrote: > To me, the solution is to resurrect these conffiles without > prompting, because prompting doesn't make sense if the only working > answer is "yes". Can you test to see if the system is working without the conffiles? Then if it is, then assume the dele

Re: Can/should debconf notes still be used?

2007-05-29 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would rather suggest that this is not a policy violation; policy does say > that "local changes" must be preserved, but a) if the config files were > deleted by tetex this is not a "local change", b) I don't think the > requirement to preserve local ch

Re: Can/should debconf notes still be used?

2007-05-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:01:20AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Now the question is, how should we notify the user about what we've > done? Since this is a violation of the letter of policy, I don't think > a remark in NEWS.Debian is appropriate, and I'd like to use a debconf > note of priority "h