Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> The Fujitsu-Siemens P7120 seems to contain one as well.
Confirmed, and I can use it with this program. Which BTW is at
http://gkall.hobby.nl/authentec.html
I'd post the beautiful fingerprint scan I just did, but that's perhaps
not a great idea. ;-)
--
see shy jo
signat
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:42:12PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:37:10PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> >
> > Thus, if you have a package with any unanswered important or normal
> > bugs, it will not progress. In order to assure propogation, you
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And not only when bug are fixed don't we get feedback. We sometimes
>> also face non-responsiveness to our requests for more precisions on the
>> bug...
> Ironically, most of the time, this happens with unreproduc
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:03:39AM +0100, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And not only when bug are fixed don't we get feedback. We sometimes also
> face non-responsiveness to our requests for more precisions on the bug...
Ironically, most of the time, this happens with unreproducible bug
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:01:17PM -0600, Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:10:12 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> >
> > Now, the iceape case is interesting: *you* (as in, the one complaining
> > about rotting bugs) are also allowed to help the maintainers instead of
On ma, 2007-02-26 at 23:09 +0100, Evgeni Golov wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:28:28 +0100 Miguel Gea Milvaques wrote:
>
> > Command line scanning sofware for AES2501B usb fingerprint reader.
> > The ouput are gray pnm files with quite good quality.
>
> Please mention Authentec (the vendor) and
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a bug in heimdal-kdc:
> http://bugs.debian.org/385809
> That is caused because Heimdal is linked against an old version of
> libldap, and the new version changes the location of the socket
> path. However as far as I can tell, it is not possible to
Le Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:37:10PM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
> Allow me to quote from the OP:
>
>What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to
>migrate from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports
>with severity >= normal?
>
> Thus, if you have a pac
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If someone would actually like to do something about the problem of
> maintainers not always responsing to bugs, then probably the
> simplest thing to do would be to code up a view in the BTS that
> lists bugs that have not had a maintainer response ...
Thi
* Reid Priedhorsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:10:12 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> >
> > Now, the iceape case is interesting: *you* (as in, the one complaining
> > about rotting bugs) are also allowed to help the maintainers instead of
> > whining. *That* would help. For examp
Hello,
I have a bug in heimdal-kdc:
http://bugs.debian.org/385809
That is caused because Heimdal is linked against an old version of
libldap, and the new version changes the location of the socket
path. However as far as I can tell, it is not possible to link against
the latest version of liblda
If someone would actually like to do something about the problem of
maintainers not always responsing to bugs, then probably the simplest
thing to do would be to code up a view in the BTS that lists bugs that
have not had a maintainer response (filtering out responses that appear
to be from the bug
> "Don" == Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Don> It's not a case of maintainers refusing to respond, it's a
Don> case of some maintainers of some packagages drowning in bugs
Don> and not being able to respond to all of them. [I don't
Don> believe any maintainer of pack
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:37:54PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> All bugs *should* be dealt with, but requiring that it be done is
> counter productive when maintainers are unable to keep up with the
> bugs that they already have.
>
> High numbers of unresponded bugs are an indication that a ma
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> what would be so bad about requiring that every >= important bug be
> tagged (either confirmed, forwarded, non-reproducible, moreinfo, or
> upstream) or simply closed?
All bugs *should* be dealt with, but requiring that it be done is
counter product
Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:30:23 +0100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > There's a huge difference, though, in the effect on the submitter
> > between receiving an automated "your report *will in the future* be
> > read by a human being",
>
> ...which most submit
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:40:07 +0100, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
>> The goal as I understood the OP was to discourage letting bugs (of
>> 'normal' severity or above) sit unacknowledged while the package
>> moves forward with further uploads. There was nothing in th
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:10:12 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
>
> Now, the iceape case is interesting: *you* (as in, the one complaining
> about rotting bugs) are also allowed to help the maintainers instead of
> whining. *That* would help. For example, these three packages I have
> listed in this mail, t
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:30:23 +0100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Just for reference, what is currently sent is the following[1]:
>>
>> Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian.
>> ^- an indication the effort of submitting a bug report
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:37:10PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> Thus, if you have a package with any unanswered important or normal
> bugs, it will not progress. In order to assure propogation, you must
> respond rapidly to any bug that is filed with these severities, even
> though this has not
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> Would it be hard to add functionallity to the BTS that e-mails the
> maintainer once every week with a list of bugs for his packages that
> have been unanswered for 2 weeks or more?
The code to the BTS is publicly available at
bugs.debian.or
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
> The goal as I understood the OP was to discourage letting bugs (of
> 'normal' severity or above) sit unacknowledged while the package
> moves forward with further uploads. There was nothing in the
> proposal about addressing the speed of fixes.
Allow me to
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:04:03AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 20:36:21 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> > I have to completely disagree here. When I started in earnest with the
> > effort to clean up the sasl package, I literally spent three twelve hour
> > days in
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 18:48:49 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> - XSF packages is (mostly I think) Julien and David (2 people): I'd
> say more than 900 bugs (500 on xorg solely).
Add to that Drew Parsons, Michel Dänzer (who mostly helps with the
harder bugs), and Brice Goglin (who d
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > - an indication the effort of submitting a bug report is apreciated
> > - an indication the effort will _not_ be ignored in the long run
> > - an indication that actual fixing of the bug will ta
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 20:36:21 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I have to completely disagree here. When I started in earnest with the
> effort to clean up the sasl package, I literally spent three twelve hour
> days in a row doing nothing but bug triage. I really am not surprised
> that peo
Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
>> Honestly, this would kill almost any larger package.
>You sound like it would not make the maintainers care more about
> their bugs and start answering them.
I think that's a very valid concern.
O
Bernhard R Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But it is a time that is well invested. If a maintainer does not look at
> the bugs, he cannot give them due priority. Thus a maintainer needs to
> look at them anyhow and do a fast assessment how important it is, how
> much work it would involve to fi
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Nothing that has been discussed in this thread necessarily means
> that an actual human being has done anything, as it's trivial to
> write an automated response bot for maintainers for every bug.
In the bug submitter's perspective, even notification of
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:33:08PM +0100, Frank B. Brokken wrote:
> > I don't see any reason why you should use size_t for that instead of
> > unsigned int. size_t is intended for use in describing the size of objects
> > in memory, not just for anything you know should be non-negative.
> Hm, wel
Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:10:09 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> > There is a thing to know about bugs, answering "hey, I got your
> > mail" is useless
>
> I'm a user, not a developer. I've filed perhaps a couple of a dozen bugs,
> and I find great valu
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, amritham_ gamaya wrote:
Sir,
I am working in an school. Our new HCL PC with SATA HDD
doesn't support school linux (debian)software .
I can Knew through some reliable sources that If we get driver files of it
,it is easy to install.
I searched for i
"cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - an indication the effort of submitting a bug report is apreciated
> - an indication the effort will _not_ be ignored in the long run
> - an indication that actual fixing of the bug will take a while
I think this is significantly more th
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just for reference, what is currently sent is the following[1]:
>
> Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian.
> ^- an indication the effort of submitting a bug report is appreciated
>
> This is an automatically generated reply, t
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Am Di den 27. Feb 2007 um 0:11 schrieb David Nusinow:
> we currently have a space open for anyone interested in picking up the
> beryl packaging, as Shawn has been taking time off. It's a golden
> opportunity to work on one of the hottest pieces of so
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> SO rather than sending excuses-templates, when I've had time to check
> the bug is actually there, I do use the confirmed tag to:
> * ack this is an actual bug ;
> * ack that I've been able to reproduce it (hence implying that I've
> read the
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:31:49PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Mistakely send this not as followup to the list:
>
> Hi,
>
> Am Mo den 26. Feb 2007 um 12:02 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> > Any volunteers around?
>
> Sure. For doing some Work on such projects as glibc (Low level tools,
> I'm not th
This is from the perspective of a non-DD systems administrator. While most
maintainers are good. Some are pretty lousy with regard to addressing issue
even when one is proactive about finding a solution.
On Monday 26 February 2007 14:55, Don Armstrong wrote:
> I don't believe any maintainer of
>
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:28:28 +0100 Miguel Gea Milvaques wrote:
> Command line scanning sofware for AES2501B usb fingerprint reader.
> The ouput are gray pnm files with quite good quality.
Please mention Authentec (the vendor) and the places where you
can find this reader (Medion MD85264 USB sens
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Andreas Tille wrote:
> A maintainer who refuses to respond to a reasonable bug report of a
> user does not deserve any user.
It's not a case of maintainers refusing to respond, it's a case of
some maintainers of some packagages drowning in bugs and not being
able to respond to
On Monday 26 February 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
> The goal appears to be to have bugs responded to instantly by
> maintainers and fixed rapidly.
No, very wrong:
- bugs don't need instant response, they need reasonably timely response
(say within 2 weeks on average)
- BUT, _if_ no triage on the
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, many people discussed about answering bug reports:
...
I'm soory, but I tried to safe my time and went over most of the
mails in this thread but one point I was missing (only one mail of
Cobaco was touching the idea a little bit): Not answering a bug
report is IMHO at leas
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joop Stakenborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: fldigi
Version : 1.30
Upstream Author : David H. Freese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C++
Descriptio
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/26/07 01:27, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > [Frankly, if you're concerned about whether someone has seen your
> > mail, surely the ack from the BTS is sufficent. Anything else
> > requires someone to actually do the work.]
>
> Does the BTS ack *mean* that
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Miguel Gea Milvaques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: aes2501-wy
Version : ?
Upstream Author : Wittawat Yamwong
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : BSD like
Programming Lang: C
Description : userspace so
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> it's not an excuse template it's:
>
> - an indication the effort of submitting a bug report is apreciated
> - an indication the effort will _not_ be ignored in the long run
> - an indication that actual fixing of the bug will take a while
I
Package: gnomebaker
Hi,
It's usually best to file a bug for things like this. Did that with this
mail.
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 10:08:23PM +0100, Thanatermesis - Elive wrote:
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> wodim replaces cdrecord and the external applications like gnomebak
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:57:46AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:20:31AM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:35:48PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > OK. But is there not a fairly sizeable team working on KDE packaging
>
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 06:14:17PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070226 14:28]:
> But Pierre argued that handling bugs is "tedious" work and there
> is no time for all of them and still packaging new upstreams.
I meant that you have to choose a balance bet
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Filipe Lautert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: postgresql-plsh
Version : 1.2
Upstream Author : Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://plsh.projects.postgresql.org/
* License : BSD
Programming Lang: C
D
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:33:08PM +0100, Frank B. Brokken wrote:
> Dear Steve Langasek, you wrote:
>
> > > The intention here is to use size_t in situations where the value is known
> > > to be non-negative.
> >
> > I don't see any reason why you should use size_t for that instead of
> > unsigne
On Monday 26 February 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:07:20PM +, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Pierre Habouzit said:
> > > I was previously beeing ironic, now I'm not anymore.
> >
> > No, previously you were being sarcastic. There is a differe
* Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070226 14:28]:
> > Hey, I was speaking about not releasing such packages at all (perhaps
> > except libc and the kernel (at least until hurd is ready ;->)). So
>
> Eh? you say that they should not migrate to testing ?
To cite myself:
| Sorry to say it that way.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:39:57AM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:31:49PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > Sure. For doing some Work on such projects as glibc (Low level tools,
> > I'm not the frontend programmer). But then come to another problem, (and
> > yes, I know t
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:31:49PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Sure. For doing some Work on such projects as glibc (Low level tools,
> I'm not the frontend programmer). But then come to another problem, (and
> yes, I know there is the possibility to have a sponsor) how to just help
> without being
On 2007-02-26, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure. For doing some Work on such projects as glibc (Low level tools,
> I'm not the frontend programmer). But then come to another problem, (and
In the kde team where I are, we work in a svn archive where non-DDs like
me have commit access -
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:07:20PM +, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Pierre Habouzit said:
> > I was previously beeing ironic, now I'm not anymore.
>
> No, previously you were being sarcastic. There is a difference between
> the two.
>
> I find it quite amusing that you
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Hi,
Am Mo den 26. Feb 2007 um 12:02 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> Any volunteers around?
Sure. For doing some Work on such projects as glibc (Low level tools,
I'm not the frontend programmer). But then
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:07 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
>
> Just an ack, would alleviate frustration on the users' part enourmously. I'm
> thinking of something like the following:
>
> I've seen your bug report, at first glance fixing it seems to have lower
> priority then A, B,
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:10:09 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> There is a thing to know about bugs, answering "hey, I got your mail"
> is useless
Hi Pierre,
I'm a user, not a developer. I've filed perhaps a couple of a dozen bugs,
and I find great value in a reply which has no content other than
On Monday 26 February 2007 10:57, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Now let's think a bit:
> - iceweasel is Eric and Mike (2 people): 528 bugs.
> - XSF packages is (mostly I think) Julien and David (2 people): I'd
> say more than 900 bugs (500 on xorg solely).
> - OOo.org is René (_1_ active peo
This one time, at band camp, Pierre Habouzit said:
> I was previously beeing ironic, now I'm not anymore.
No, previously you were being sarcastic. There is a difference between
the two.
I find it quite amusing that you are arguing here that you should not
have to respond to people reporting bu
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:49:13 +1100
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not register change-linux.com and have it document how to convert between
> all the different distributions? If someone finds that Debian doesn't suit
> them then I welcome them to change to Fedora - they may change
On 2007-02-26, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All of those are obvious plusses in the big picture view of the project as=
>=20
> whole and the relationship of the project with our users.
Welcome as the new helper in the kde bugs in debian.
/me goes back to his bugs for no
On Monday 26 February 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2007-02-26, Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The bug reports might be read, but not answered. There is no reason to
> send a content-less pong to a bug report.
there most definately is a point:
A user sending a bug report is a use
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On 02/26/07 03:48, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Ron Johnson:
>
>> Does the BTS ack *mean* that an actual living breathing human has
>> eyeballed the bug?
>
> No, it doesn't.
Ok. That was was I read from Don Armstrong's post, though.
> But would an ac
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:51:25PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> Instead of forging crappy excuses to say
> every time I lack time to do this or that, which is with time,
> frustrating and demotivating enough.
>
> SO rather than sending excuses-templates,
it's not an excuse template it's:
On 2007-02-26, Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> xorg just sees activitiy to look at bugs (and it was really overdue),
> libc is a beast of itself. For the others I have no strong preference,
the x-maintainers have been lucky by having a Brice Gogling suddenly
dropping in and pinging a
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:51:25PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > 1) you don't want to leave people hanging (as an exercise in understanding
> >the users point of view pretend it's an ftpmaster or other central
> >project function tha
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> no we can't, as an example I had a bugrapport (with patch) open on
> desktop-base for over a year, no reply. It came up in discussion at
> debian-desktop list and turns out the maintainer list had somehow gotten
> unsubscribed from the pa
Sir,
I am working in an school. Our new HCL PC with SATA HDD
doesn't support school linux (debian)software .
I can Knew through some reliable sources that If we get driver files of it
,it is easy to install.
I searched for it in internet several times, but i can't get
On Monday 26 February 2007, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Feb 26, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "You and others" cannot substitute for a response *from the package
> > maintainer* acknowledging (or otherwise) the bug report. That's the
> > criterion being discussed here: not a resolution for
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:26:45PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate
> > from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> A good example already comes to my mind where the maintainer
> is doing uploads but only for bugs that have RC priority or important
> and are easy to fix. Not matching this criteria? Then you are simply
> ignored. No answer. Not one single word
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alastair McKinstry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Version : 2006.09
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* URL : http://www.eso.org/projects/esomidas/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Desc
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Howard Young wrote:
> I have never heard of Web2.0 before? I will go and find out what this is.
Now you are some lucky person.
You may also want to look at XSwallow:
http://www.skynet.ie/~caolan/Packages/XSwallow.html
--
Sam.
--
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Ron Johnson wrote:
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Howard,
I can guarantee you that ActiveX plug-ins don't and won't work in
Linux-native browsers.
I am guessing you think I mean to use ActiveX through WINE or some such
thing?
Do not worry that had not been my intention I was
Hendrik,
This was more or less what I wanted to be assured of.
Hendrik Sattler wrote:
Am Mittwoch 21 Februar 2007 12:11 schrieb Howard Young:
This very much depends on what you want to do.
Netscape-style plugins work in many browsers, e.g. konqueror can use them,
too, like it uses the plugi
Hello,
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
If you want to write a plugin, however (as opposed to an applet that is
shown on a page), then you could indeed use the netscape plugin API
(which is supported by almost every browser for the Linux platform). You
should probably ask the mozilla people about that, th
Le lundi 26 février 2007 à 10:57 +0100, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> Now let's think a bit:
> - iceweasel is Eric and Mike (2 people): 528 bugs.
> - XSF packages is (mostly I think) Julien and David (2 people): I'd
> say more than 900 bugs (500 on xorg solely).
> - OOo.org is René (_1_
Le lundi 26 février 2007 à 09:56 +0100, Klaus Ethgen a écrit :
> Sorry, but NO. It only shows that there is more people needed for
> maintaining the package!
Yes. We need more people to maintain GNOME, KDE, X.org, the glibc, OOo,
and Mozilla.
Any volunteers around?
--
.''`.
: :' : We are d
#include
* Marco d'Itri [Mon, Feb 26 2007, 02:36:13AM]:
> On Feb 26, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "You and others" cannot substitute for a response *from the package
> > maintainer* acknowledging (or otherwise) the bug report. That's the
> > criterion being discussed here: not a re
#include
* Pierre Habouzit [Mon, Feb 26 2007, 02:32:28AM]:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:27:29PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:12:43AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > You and others are most welcome to take a stab a
* Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070226 11:05]:
> Stripping KDE, php, xorg, gnome, iceweasel, the libc out of stable
> would indeed make releases a lot less painful.
xorg just sees activitiy to look at bugs (and it was really overdue),
libc is a beast of itself. For the others I have no st
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:45:24AM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070226 03:03]:
> > So now let's do a simple calculation. 100 bugs, 20 minutes, that's
> > 2000 minutes, over 6 weeks, that's 333 minutes a week, meaning at least
> > 6 hours a half of work.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:20:31AM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:35:48PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > OK. But is there not a fairly sizeable team working on KDE packaging
> > for Debian?
>
> No. FYI, the KDE team is currently about 6 *active* members, 3 working
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:26:45PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> > What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate
> > from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity >=
> > normal?
>
> Hon
* Nikita V. Youshchenko:
> What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate
> from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity >=
> normal?
I don't think fiddling with testing propagation in this way is a good
idea. After all, even if the package ha
* Ron Johnson:
> Does the BTS ack *mean* that an actual living breathing human has
> eyeballed the bug?
No, it doesn't.
But would an ack from a human being mean that the bug will be fixed in
due course?
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* Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070226 03:03]:
> So now let's do a simple calculation. 100 bugs, 20 minutes, that's
> 2000 minutes, over 6 weeks, that's 333 minutes a week, meaning at least
> 6 hours a half of work. Just to keep up with bugs. Of completely tedious
> work.
>
> Add to tha
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:32:41PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:55:39AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> >
> > And btw, help for bug triaging for any of those kind of packages is
> > vastly appreciated... But here is a newsflash: 100 bugs is fairly easy
> > to red
* Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070226 02:35]:
> If a maintainer keeps doing uploads we can be almost sure that he is not
> "ignoring" bugs too.
Especially with the big packages used as example why this would be hard
this is not obvious, and I think for many packages it is even simply not
true
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Am Mo den 26. Feb 2007 um 3:03 schrieb Pierre Habouzit:
> errrm, let me think. YES !
[some calculation]
> so well, hmm let me think again ... YES THIS IS A DAMN PERFECT
> ARGUMENT.
Sorry, but NO. It only shows that there is more pe
On Saturday 24 February 2007 23:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> social contract, and fedora (and I came to debian before fedora
> and haven't paid that much attention to fedora) as hobbled by it's
> client status to redhat, which is a shame because I had hoped when
> fedora came about it might have
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On 02/26/07 01:27, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
>> Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
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> [Frankly, if you're concerned about whether someone has seen your
> mail, surely the ack from the BTS is sufficent.
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