Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Ben Finney wrote: > Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You and others are most welcome to take a stab at the 1000 open bugs > > against the official kdepackages. > > "You and others" cannot substitute for a response *from the package > maintainer* acknowledging (o

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:35:48PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > OK. But is there not a fairly sizeable team working on KDE packaging > for Debian? No. FYI, the KDE team is currently about 6 *active* members, 3 working a lot and 3-4 working when they have some free time. Last kde 3.5.6 ha

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:03:17AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > Seriously, do you think that the number of bug reports you receive is > > justification to not answer them? > > errrm, let me think. YES ! > > There is a thing to know about bugs, answering "hey, I got your mail" >

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:55:39AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > And btw, help for bug triaging for any of those kind of packages is > vastly appreciated... But here is a newsflash: 100 bugs is fairly easy > to reduce. the 5 or 600 bugs the KDE team has closed was a year of work. > Yes a dam

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-25 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 19:13:09 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Guillem Jover: > > The resulting .changes will get a field like this: > > > > Source: bacula (1.38.11-7) > > > > which can be used to track back from which source this binary > > originated. > > Yeah, but this only helps if you've g

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 21:11 -0500, root wrote: > ... ackowledging their part of the process of software development and > not > treating them with distrain. If you treat them well, by acknowleding > their bug reports and -- $DEITY forgive -- saying you are working on > it, ... In fact, acknowledgi

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread root
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:27:29PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:12:43AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > You and others are most welcome to take a stab at the 1000 open bugs > > > against the official kdepackages. > > > >

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:51:17PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:45:28AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2007-02-26, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have to completely disagree here. When I started in earnest with the > > > effort to clean up

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:36:21PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:27:29PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > > > > And what he's telling you, and what I'm telling you, is that it's a > > completely crap criterion for those of us who deal with massive packagesets > > like

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:45:28AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2007-02-26, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have to completely disagree here. When I started in earnest with the > > effort to clean up the sasl package, I literally spent three twelve hour > > days in a row doi

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-02-26, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to completely disagree here. When I started in earnest with the > effort to clean up the sasl package, I literally spent three twelve hour > days in a row doing nothing but bug triage. I really am not surprised > that people ha

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:36:13AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > If a maintainer keeps doing uploads we can be almost sure that he is not > "ignoring" bugs too. > Providing an useful answer to a bug requires proper bug triage, which > requires time. Right. Which means that it should not be igno

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Ben Finney
David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:12:43AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > the criterion being discussed here: not a resolution for the > > reported bug, but rather a first response from the package > > maintainer to the bug report, to acknowledge that it has not b

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:27:29PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > > And what he's telling you, and what I'm telling you, is that it's a > completely crap criterion for those of us who deal with massive packagesets > like KDE. Simply replying to a bug won't get it fixed any sooner or > decrease the

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 26, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "You and others" cannot substitute for a response *from the package > maintainer* acknowledging (or otherwise) the bug report. That's the > criterion being discussed here: not a resolution for the reported bug, > but rather a first response from t

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:27:29PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:12:43AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > You and others are most welcome to take a stab at the 1000 open bugs > > > against the official kdepackages. > > > >

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:12:43AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You and others are most welcome to take a stab at the 1000 open bugs > > against the official kdepackages. > > "You and others" cannot substitute for a response *from the package > maintai

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Ben Finney
Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You and others are most welcome to take a stab at the 1000 open bugs > against the official kdepackages. "You and others" cannot substitute for a response *from the package maintainer* acknowledging (or otherwise) the bug report. That's the criterion bei

Bug#412427: ITP: resiprocate -- Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) stack

2007-02-25 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: resiprocate Version : 1.1rc1 Upstream Author : ReSIProcate Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.resiprocate.org License : Vovida Software License v. 1.0 (3-c

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-02-25, Nikita V. Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate=20 > from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity >=3D= >=20 > normal? Why not put resources on helping people with the bugs instead o

Bug#412399: ITP: islsm -- Driver for Prism54 "softmac" 802.11 wireless LAN adapters

2007-02-25 Thread Sam Morris
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package name: islsm Version : git-20061017 Upstream Author : Jean-Baptiste Note, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Feyd, Denis Vlasenko, Martin Langer <[EM

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:30:40AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Nikita wrote "unanswered", you seem to have misread that as "unfixed". > > I believe Nikita is proposing a way to focus on the lack of *any > response* by the package maintainer to particular bug reports, not the > lack of fixes. >

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Ben Finney
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:26:45PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to > > migrate from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports > > with severity >= normal? > > Bad id

Re: Looking for a temporary account on Alpha

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 14:33, Frank B. Brokken wrote: > Dear Steve Langasek, you wrote: > >>> The intention here is to use size_t in situations where the value is known >>> to be non-negative. >> I don't see any reason why you should use size_t for that instead

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:26:45PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Hello. > > What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate > from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity >= > normal? > > I guess it may be difficult to analyse automatica

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:26:45PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Hello. > > What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate > from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity >= > normal? > I do not think this is a good idea. Some packages

Re: Looking for a temporary account on Alpha

2007-02-25 Thread Frank B. Brokken
Dear Steve Langasek, you wrote: > > The intention here is to use size_t in situations where the value is known > > to be non-negative. > > I don't see any reason why you should use size_t for that instead of > unsigned int. size_t is intended for use in describing the size of objects > in memory

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:26:45PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate > from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity >= > normal? Honestly, this would kill almost any larger package. The problem

On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hello. What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity >= normal? I guess it may be difficult to analyse automatically what is 'unanswered' (because there could be follow-ups by submitter and other

Re: Roundcube

2007-02-25 Thread José Luis Tallón
gregor herrmann wrote: > On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:27:26 -0200, Fernando M.M. wrote: > > >> Althought i have already seen some old discussion about packing the >> webmail Roundcube (1) i have not found the package using the >> package search (2). >> > [..] > >> Is someone working on it? >>

Re: I *love* goodbye-microsoft.com

2007-02-25 Thread Tim Cutts
On 24 Feb 2007, at 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strangely, I feel a tiny pang of guilt. I now have an apple box for the first time in decades. One of the main deciding factors was to buy unixy goodness :-) That was my main reason for buying an Apple four or so years ago. but also