Re: localisation in system wide daemons

2007-01-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > AFAICS, post-processing of log messages would be the most reliable > method to give admins localized logs while also making it feasible > for upstreams to support user requests. Any problems that would make > it hard to post-process English logs for loca

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Brian May
> "sean" == sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sean> On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 19:29 +, Luis Matos wrote: >> for example, phpsysinfo installs on /usr/share/phpsysinfo and >> symb links into /var/www/phpsysinfo. >> >> this is ok, but maybe, a better location is sysinfo

Re: localisation in system wide daemons

2007-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 11:13:58AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Am 2007-01-12 07:16:12, schrieb Christian Perrier: > > > Could you explain us your perception of the harm caused by this? > > This peoples will ask you for help and send all the logfil

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 21:16 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:34:18AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:51 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : > > > > I would assert they are not listeni

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, David Weinehall said: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:34:18AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > It I have to use some archaic command > > like (btw I don't really mind them *IF* they are well documented) but > > like: > > gconftool-2.3-1-9.mark32 -a2 -r4 --/usr/sbin/s

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:48:03 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Luca Capello wrote: >> first of all, I posted to d-d because I think the problem is not >> restricted to GNOME, but if I'm wrong, please continue this >> discussion to debian-gtk-gnome (which I cc:ed) and cc: me

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread sean finney
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 09:15 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Please follow the guidelines for Debian mailing lists: don't send me a > copy of messages unless I ask for one. I read the list. sorry, i'm still butting heads with my involuntarily new MUA, which doesn't have a shiny reply-to-list button (yes

Re: ~ SIS is searching for a Solaris / Web Administrator for a Contract Opportunity in San Francisco, CA ~

2007-01-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 03:41:06AM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Freitag 19 Januar 2007 21:40 schrieb Christine Cauthen: > > Must have worked constantly with Solaris 10 and Red Hat > > within the last 1-2 years. > [...] > > a)Your current Word formatted resume > > Strange, indeed, to expect

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Luis Matos
The point and not. 1) debian default installation is for the default user. default user can simply want to have a localhost with php on it for development. So installing on /var/www is good for him. 2) webservers For a webserver (serves only one vhost) default /var/www is most of times ok. 3)

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Kai Hendry
On 2007-01-20T15:09-0600 Steve Greenland wrote: > I disagree. In particular, your method requires more work: I have to > modify DNS in addition to any other setup work. True. Updating DNS for Web services is a pain. I usually shoot for a wildcard entry. > The nice thing about opinions is that eve

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 19:35 +, Kai Hendry a écrit : > Installing Web applications /var/www and serving them with urls like: > > example.com/myservice > > Is really outdated. It really should be: > > myservice.example.com > > Served off some sort of vhost structure such as: > > /srv/w

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hi paul, ben, et al, Please follow the guidelines for Debian mailing lists: don't send me a copy of messages unless I ask for one. I read the list. > On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 12:34 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > The methodology used to name subdirectories

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Jan-07, 13:35 (CST), Kai Hendry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Installing Web applications /var/www and serving them with urls like: > > example.com/myservice > > Is really outdated. It really should be: > > myservice.example.com I disagree. In particular, your method requires more work: I

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 15:21 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) a écrit : > So Gnome has obviously not 'removed tons of features' (your words), they've > instead consolidated features, replacing multiple features with single > better features all over the place? > And I suppose the mountains

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread sean finney
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 19:29 +, Luis Matos wrote: > for example, phpsysinfo installs on /usr/share/phpsysinfo and symb links > into /var/www/phpsysinfo. > > this is ok, but maybe, a better location is sysinfo or hwinfo. the > easiest way to do this without handling links is to add an alias in t

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread David Weinehall
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:34:18AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:51 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : > > > I would assert they are not listening to their former BIGGEST fans and > > > users. You can easily fin

Bug #118715 and #246680

2007-01-20 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there no interest in fixing this even though there's patch(es!)? I can make a new one if asked, I'm running with this on all MY machines anyway. I rather this go into the Debian GNU/Linux distribution... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: Bug#407721: ITP: dds -- double dummy solver

2007-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/20/07 13:25, Christoph Berg wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: dds > Version : 1.1 > Upstream Author : Bo Haglund et al. > Section : games > * URL

Bug#407721: ITP: dds -- double dummy solver

2007-01-20 Thread Christoph Berg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dds Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Bo Haglund et al. Section : games * URL : http://web.telia.com/~u88910365/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, C++, Python

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Kai Hendry
On 2007-01-20T10:37+0100 sean finney wrote: > you should change that to be /var/www. the FHS may be ambiguous on the > matter, but debian policy is fairly pointed that /var/www is the default > documentroot for any HTTP servers. I just wanted to quickly say I dislike /var/www. Installing Web

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Luis Matos
Sáb, 2007-01-20 às 11:39 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez escreveu: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 08:28:57AM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > > > > The idea behind using /var/www for all webservers is that the user can > > install a different webserver and it just servers his/her content. All > > packaged web ao

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Saturday 20 January 2007 14:21, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 13:34 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) a > > IMHO that just means those usability engineers took the easy way out of > > a scaling problem: instead of adressing the actual problem, they just > > made sure they

Re: Archive signing key for 2007?

2007-01-20 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 13:51:49 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Stable will be signed by both, online and offline key. Also every point > > release will be signed by both keys. > > > > Greetings > > Martin > > Ok, then where is the "

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 14:13 +, Ross Burton wrote: > On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 06:34 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > Are you telling me that these features I keep see getting removed are > > *NOT* about usability for me? OK, functionality to me... Functionality > > for me determines my usability. It

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 08:28:57AM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > > The idea behind using /var/www for all webservers is that the user can > install a different webserver and it just servers his/her content. All > packaged web aoolications are put into /var/www too so choosing a > different root for

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Ross Burton
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 06:34 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Are you telling me that these features I keep see getting removed are > *NOT* about usability for me? OK, functionality to me... Functionality > for me determines my usability. It I have to use some archaic command > like (btw I don't really

Re: Debian Mirror with lzma compressed packages

2007-01-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
A few more examples below. I think lzma isn't the right thing for the archive. p7zip seems much faster, needs a lot less ram and compression is similar. I didn't measure compression times as I find them somewhat irelevant. A deb is compressed once but downloaded and decompressed a million times.

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 13:34 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) a écrit : > By taking out features you decrease the number of goals you can use the > software for. If you can't use the software for a certain goal at all then > it's less usable for that goal then a package with an interface fr

Re: Archive signing key for 2007?

2007-01-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stable will be signed by both, online and offline key. Also every point > release will be signed by both keys. > > Greetings > Martin Ok, then where is the "Debian Archive offline Signing Key (4.0/etch) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"? Isn't is high time to

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Saturday 20 January 2007 11:51, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : > > I would assert they are not listening to their former BIGGEST fans and > > users. You can easily find droves rants/discussions of current GNOME > > users very disgruntled

Bug#407666: RFA: gv -- PostScript and PDF viewer for X

2007-01-20 Thread Christoph Berg
Package: wnpp Severity: normal The 'gv' package deserves more care than I did spend on it since I adopted it. It should be in a reasonable shape, but the BTS needs a thorough cleanup and there's a bunch of patches that should be synced with/forwarded to upstream. I'd be glad to hand it over to som

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:51 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : > > I would assert they are not listening to their former BIGGEST fans and > > users. You can easily find droves rants/discussions of current GNOME > > users very disgruntled

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said: > Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : > > I would assert they are not listening to their former BIGGEST fans and > > users. You can easily find droves rants/discussions of current GNOME > > users very disgruntled with t

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 04:30 -0500, Greg Folkert a écrit : > I would assert they are not listening to their former BIGGEST fans and > users. You can easily find droves rants/discussions of current GNOME > users very disgruntled with the REMOVAL of features that previously were > there. Some us

Re: Is Susumu OSAWA MIA?

2007-01-20 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
On January 20, 2007 at 6:02PM +0900, susumuo (at debian.org) wrote: > Hello Kinoshita-san, > > I've upload new eb package to unstable. > > > Do you plan to go back to activity, or should your package be > > taken over by someone else? > > I'm continuing Debian activity but I can't spend more time.

Re: /var/www or /var/web

2007-01-20 Thread sean finney
hi paul, ben, et al, On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 12:34 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Paul Cager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am packaging MyServer (a small web server). By default it expects > > its document root to be /var/web. you should change that to be /var/www. the FHS may be ambiguous on t

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 02:50 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:27:23PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Well we shouldn't keep ourselves hostage of stupid upstream behaviour, > > >> should we? > > > > > > Contrary to us, GNOME (in

Re: Is Susumu OSAWA MIA?

2007-01-20 Thread Susumu OSAWA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Kinoshita-san, I've upload new eb package to unstable. > Do you plan to go back to activity, or should your package be > taken over by someone else? I'm continuing Debian activity but I can't spend more time. So if you can, please take over e