Work-needing packages report for Oct 20, 2006

2006-10-19 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 333 (new: 16) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 106 (new: 3) Total number of packages reques

Re: gcc-4.2 build-depends?

2006-10-19 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > Frank Küster napsal: >> "Jiri Palecek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > can anyone explain why gcc-4.2 build-depends on libgconf2-dev, >> > libxul-dev, libart-2.0-dev, libgtk2.0-dev, >> > lib32asound2-dev, libcairo2-dev, libqt4-dev and seve

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 10/19/06, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Waw, actually, i was trying to be less aggressive... Anyways, since I'm too pissed and since I see no reason to put myself in that mood any further, I'm taking a few days off Debian, which means my current work on seamonkey^Hiceape will be on h

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Re: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Friday 20 October 2006 08:06, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Sander Marechal] > > > True, but I meant that an app can kill X, requiring it to be restarted. > > Newbies get very confused at that point. > > Look, if you typed "startx" once, you can type it again. > > If you didn't, it means you're usin

Re: how can download and run checklib

2006-10-19 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:47:48 +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > I also couldn't find in the FAQ [3] any reference about how to > download checklib. > [3] http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib/faq.html > How can download and run checklib? On http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib/ the last line says: "

how can download and run checklib

2006-10-19 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
Hello, There is a link to Checklib [0] in the Packages Overview page of every maintainer. See for example vorlon's page at [1] where you could see that link in the line starting with "Reports:". [0] http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib/ [1] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=vorlon I couldn't

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Kevin Mark wrote: > DD's trying to use Debian policy as a guide to make all packages > pass policy requirement. Is this not what they are tasked to do? There's nothing wrong with these goals. Indeed, I'm sure no one would object to patches and bugs being filed to fix these pol

Re: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Sander Marechal] > True, but I meant that an app can kill X, requiring it to be restarted. > Newbies get very confused at that point. Look, if you typed "startx" once, you can type it again. If you didn't, it means you're using a display manager like xdm, and xdm will restart X when it dies. I

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:52:25PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:37:38PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:29]: > > > [another agression] > Waw, actually, i was trying to be less aggressive... This is a ver

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:37:38PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:29]: > > [another agression] > > Sorry, but enough is enough. I'm fed up about your sudden agressions > towards me for no reason at all. Welcome to my killfile. > > Hi Andi, from my pers

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:37:38PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:29]: > > [another agression] Waw, actually, i was trying to be less aggressive... Anyways, since I'm too pissed and since I see no reason to put myself in that mood a

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Julien BLACHE
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Be aware that, even if you don't like it, this looks like you bend the > rules so that it doesn't alter the release plan. > Be also aware that too much bending the rules makes them useless. Don't try to bend the rules, it's impossible. Instead, only realiz

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So, what does the Etch RC policy remove from the bugs.d.o description? > > 'is a severe violation of Debian policy (roughly, it violates a "must" or > "required" directive), or' Perhaps you should concentrate on the word "roughly" there. What constitut

Re: ethstatus: no upstream, RFA or removal?

2006-10-19 Thread Christoph Haas
On Thursday 19 October 2006 13:37, Christoph Haas wrote: > I'm the maintainer of the "ethstatus" package - a console-based ethernet > statistics monitor. You can e.g. run it on your gateway's 9" CRT on the > console and see how much bandwidth is currently used in a bar-like view. > I'm in the proce

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Frank Küster
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:20:46PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:09]: >> > Where does it say the scope for 4. Autobuilding is "buildds must not >> > fail" ? >> >> There are always bugs in

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:29]: > [another agression] Sorry, but enough is enough. I'm fed up about your sudden agressions towards me for no reason at all. Welcome to my killfile. Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: gcc-4.2 build-depends?

2006-10-19 Thread jpalecek
Hello, Frank Küster napsal: > "Jiri Palecek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > can anyone explain why gcc-4.2 build-depends on libgconf2-dev, > > libxul-dev, libart-2.0-dev, libgtk2.0-dev, > > lib32asound2-dev, libcairo2-dev, libqt4-dev and several others? It > > seems quite strang

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:20:46PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:09]: > > Where does it say the scope for 4. Autobuilding is "buildds must not > > fail" ? > > There are always bugs in any document. Be aware that, even if you don't

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:15:16PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:06]: > > That was not a link before it was changed before sarge release, in July > > 2004. > > The link was added later because people were barking around. The meaning

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:09]: > Where does it say the scope for 4. Autobuilding is "buildds must not > fail" ? There are always bugs in any document. For sarge, we e.g. sarge-ignored some MTAs which didn't provide -bs, though LSB requires that. Now, we adjusted the policy to m

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 22:06]: > That was not a link before it was changed before sarge release, in July > 2004. The link was added later because people were barking around. The meaning was always the same. Anyways, July 2004 is a *bit* history now, don't you think so? > So, w

Is there a need for /usr/lib64/ on a pure i386?

2006-10-19 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
Hello d-dev, I noticed yesterday that after an upgrade I got a /usr/lib64 dir with some (not neded) stuff in it. I am not running any 64 bit arch. $ dpkg -S /usr/lib64 # says: libg2c0-dev, fakeroot, libgfortran1-dev: /usr/lib64 I have found that there is a bug [1] on fakeroot reporting the same.

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:56:37PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Aurelien Jarno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:31]: > > Andreas Barth a écrit : > > >A violation of the parts of the debian policy as listed on > > >http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt is serious level (

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 03:53:56PM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:14]: > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:06:42PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * Mike Hommey

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:35:38PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I need to admit that I get sick, seriously sick. If someone doesn't > agree with something, he just says "you do it wrong just for release of > etch on $date". I really hate that. Especially when it's about th

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Aurelien Jarno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:31]: > Andreas Barth a écrit : > >A violation of the parts of the debian policy as listed on > >http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt is serious level (that > >should be the same as the must-directives in policy, but - well, I hope > >that I ha

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Eric Dorland
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:14]: > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:06:42PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 20:42]: > > > > Note how subtly the Etch RC policy removes the f

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:25]: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:14]: > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:06:42PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * M

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Andreas Barth a écrit : A violation of the parts of the debian policy as listed on http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt is serious level (that should be the same as the must-directives in policy, but - well, I hope that I have finally time post-etch to sync that finally). Any other polic

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:14]: > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:06:42PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 20:42]: > > > > Note ho

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 21:14]: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:06:42PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 20:42]: > > > Note how subtly the Etch RC policy removes the first alternative of the > > > serious bug description

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:06:42PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 20:42]: > > Note how subtly the Etch RC policy removes the first alternative of the > > serious bug description... > > Which do you mean? Please read the Etch RC policy.

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 20:42]: > Note how subtly the Etch RC policy removes the first alternative of the > serious bug description... Which do you mean? Please read the Etch RC policy. It tells: | In addition to the issues listed in this document, an issue is release | critical

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:29:38AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:51:19PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:36:27PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity?

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:51:19PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:36:27PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity? > > No. Please see the top of http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt > > for which bu

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 10:00 -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity? > > No, it "only" warrants the lowest RC severity, serious [0], unless the > bug in addition makes the package or other software (mostly) unusable, >

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 19:51 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:36:27PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity? > > > > No. Please see the top of http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt > > for which bugs

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:01:20PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 19 October 2006 18:45, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > If no problem is caused by it, I believe 'normal' or even 'wishlist' > > severity is the proper severity to use. > s/wishlist/minor/ > It _is_ a bug after all. s/minor/i

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:36:27PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity? > > No. Please see the top of http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt > for which bugs are critical, grave and serious. That is irrelevant for the sever

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Aurelien Jarno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 15:06]: > Among all of the bugs reported by lintian, one concerns a lot of > packages, the presence of the clean, binary, binary-arch, binary-indep > and build targets. This is required by both the section 4.9 of the > policy and the Etch release standa

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Tshepang Lekhonkhobe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061019 18:09]: > On 10/19/06, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >[Aurelien Jarno] > >> I have just run lintian on all the archive (amd64) for both binaries and > >> sources, and the results are a bit scary. It looks like a lot of > >> m

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 06:45:53PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Well, policy isn't a stick to beat other maintainers with, it is a > tool to make sure our packages are well integrated and work properly. > Thus, policy issues are not problems by themselves, they are policy > issues because th

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 19 October 2006 18:45, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > If no problem is caused by it, I believe 'normal' or even 'wishlist' > severity is the proper severity to use. s/wishlist/minor/ It _is_ a bug after all. pgp8CuxfBlHbn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity? No, it "only" warrants the lowest RC severity, serious [0], unless the bug in addition makes the package or other software (mostly) unusable, causes data loss, or introduces a security hole. [0] http://www.debian.o

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe] > Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity? Well, policy isn't a stick to beat other maintainers with, it is a tool to make sure our packages are well integrated and work properly. Thus, policy issues are not problems by themselves, they are policy issues because

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 10/19/06, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Aurelien Jarno] > I have just run lintian on all the archive (amd64) for both binaries and > sources, and the results are a bit scary. It looks like a lot of > maintainers are uploading their packages, and don't really care with the >

Re: cmake build-depends

2006-10-19 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 10/19/06, Jean Parpaillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a side effect, can someone tell me if there is a command to search for packages regarding Build-Depends ? grep-dctrl -sPackage -F Build-Depends,Build-Depends-Indep cmake /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources Or, see the more elaborate version,

Re: Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Aurelien Jarno] > I have just run lintian on all the archive (amd64) for both binaries and > sources, and the results are a bit scary. It looks like a lot of > maintainers are uploading their packages, and don't really care with the > policy. What is the technical problem triggered by the pack

cmake build-depends

2006-10-19 Thread Jean Parpaillon
Hi all, I maintain the package wormux and my dear upstream devels decided to switch from autotools to cmake, for the best and the worse. Are there people with experiences with it ? Maybe kde packagers are already working on it ? As a side effect, can someone tell me if there is a command to se

Re: ethstatus: no upstream, RFA or removal?

2006-10-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm unhappy with the missing upstream situation. I could also wait for a > volunteer to maintain both the software and the maintainer. ^^ What kind of maintenance do *you* need? Matthias --

Bug mass filling

2006-10-19 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi all, I have just run lintian on all the archive (amd64) for both binaries and sources, and the results are a bit scary. It looks like a lot of maintainers are uploading their packages, and don't really care with the policy. Maybe some errors (E:) of lintian could be changed to critical (C:)

ethstatus: no upstream, RFA or removal?

2006-10-19 Thread Christoph Haas
Dear list... I'm the maintainer of the "ethstatus" package - a console-based ethernet statistics monitor. You can e.g. run it on your gateway's 9" CRT on the console and see how much bandwidth is currently used in a bar-like view. I'm in the process of RFA'ing the package. But I wonder whether

Re: safe halt/reboot/shutdown

2006-10-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.17.1618 +0200]: > Thus, unless I get other suggestions, I'll package it up in its > own package, which diverts /sbin/{reboot,halt,shutdown} and puts > my shell script in their place. I'll Enhance whatever init systems > there are and I'll ask

Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:26:26 -0200 "Yves Junqueira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > It may be much cleaner to include help links /etc/motd, adivising the > user to read a hipothetical > "/usr/share/doc/linux-beginners/new-users", or enter a help-mode by > typing a certain command. Much cleaner, b

Re: New source package

2006-10-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:47:10AM +0100, David Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I have developed some new software, an audioscrobbler client for > _l_a_s_t_._f_m, which > I would > like to see included, probably under Multimedia. > > It consists of two simple C source files - how do I go about ge

Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Thomas Viehmann [Thu, Oct 19 2006, 10:58:42AM]: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful > > tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files > > (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for different shells that calls fo

Re: New source package

2006-10-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:47:10AM +0100, David Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I have developed some new software, an audioscrobbler client for last.fm, > which I would > like to see included, probably under Multimedia. > > It consists of two simple C source files - how do I go about getting it > include

Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:58:42AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful > > tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files > > (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for different shells that cal

New source package

2006-10-19 Thread David Moore
Hi, I have developed some new software, an audioscrobbler client for last.fm, which I would like to see included, probably under Multimedia. It consists of two simple C source files - how do I go about getting it included in Debian? Cheers, David. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://dmct

Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful > tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files > (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for different shells that calls fortune for > those tips. You mean like fortunes-debian-hints[1]? Ki

Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:26:26AM -0200, Yves Junqueira wrote: > It may be much cleaner to include help links /etc/motd, adivising the > user to read a hipothetical > "/usr/share/doc/linux-beginners/new-users", or enter a help-mode by > typing a certain command. Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviou

Problems in PMDF Mailserv V6.1 command processing

2006-10-19 Thread PMDF Mailserv V61
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