Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/15/06 00:03, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: [snip] > I think it should be in the porters control what packages to > build for an

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Carlo Segre
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, Charles Plessy wrote: The interest with debtags is that it allows to change the policy for a package without needing an upload or the intervention of the maintainer. This way, the decision of not building could be taken by the maintainer, and it could be reverted quickly by

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> >> Isn't it up to the maintainer to say $package is not suited for >> $architecture? >> And aren't maintainers happy to receive hints (e.g. from porters or users of >> a certain

Re: Experiment: orphanining some of my packages (third round)

2006-10-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:21:45AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Aurelien Jarno wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >As Debian^WDunc-tank experiments with funding, I have loosed motivation > >to spend so much time on my packages. I have therefore decided to > >experiment with orphaning a few of my packages

Orphan party

2006-10-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
I'm orphaning the following packages. I'm no longer interested in maintaining them unless the project pays me for it. * h5utils * hdf5 - very useful tool for finding ICEs in gcc. Otherwise, fragile library which implies working around bugs introduced by incompetent upst

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:51:49AM +0100, Wookey a écrit : > > Perhaps debtags could be used as an appropriate classification > mechanism. Hi all, As a maintainer of scientific packages, I agree with this idea. I always feel sorry to see my packages sitting in the queue of slow arches while I a

Results for General Resolution: Handling source-less firmware in the Linux kernel

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Results for General Resolution: Recall the project leader

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Results for Position statement clarifying DFSG

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Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-14 Thread Roger Leigh
Aurélien GÉRÔME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: >> as described in >> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt >> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count >> correctly are

Bug#391118: This probably belongs in the kernel bug tracker

2006-10-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I would think that keyboard repeat rate is the domain of the kernel's keyboard driver. Since there are multiple kernels which can underly Debian, I don't see how this is feasible. Especially since each will have its own mechanism for that sort of thing. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 02:30:14AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > In general debian builds everything for every architecture. This is a > very good plan and finds a lot of bugs. Hi Wookey, endian bugs, 32/64 bit bugs, int size bugs, more eyes on bad code, more users on bad code, low-mem compiling, low-mem

Processed: reassign

2006-10-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 391118 general Bug#391118: The longer you hold down keyboard keys, the faster they should repeat Warning: Unknown package 'unknown' Bug reassigned from package `unknown' to `general'. > -- Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you n

Re: Packages up for adoption

2006-10-14 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 10:52:41PM +0200, Uwe Hermann wrote: > Hi Steve, > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:25:26PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > >* flawfinder > >* pscan > > As I haven't gotten around to do too much audit work, I'll at least take > care of a few audit tools: flawfinder and psca

Re: Packages up for adoption

2006-10-14 Thread Uwe Hermann
Hi Steve, On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:25:26PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: >* flawfinder >* pscan As I haven't gotten around to do too much audit work, I'll at least take care of a few audit tools: flawfinder and pscan. It seems rats already has a new maintainer... Cheers, Uwe. -- Uwe Herma

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Isn't it up to the maintainer to say $package is not suited for > $architecture? > And aren't maintainers happy to receive hints (e.g. from porters or users of > a certain package), which specific package is not suited for a spe

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 14 October 2006 12:51, Wookey wrote: > Nevertheless I think it is clear that we do need mechanisms to keep > the load and package set appropriate for slower arches. If we design > the mechanism properly I would hope it could be useful for various > categorisation/subsetting purpose

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 12:21:35PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > I agree with most of what Wookey and you said, but would like some > clarification on this: > On Sat, 14.10.2006 at 12:06:20 +0200, Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > But sadly, I have very little hope that Debian wil

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Wookey
On 2006-10-14 12:06 +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 02:30:14AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > I believe the Vancouver proposal went into wrong direction by excluding > (slower) archs from releases. Of course, dropping archs is a quick and easy > way to lighten the load for a rele

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, I agree with most of what Wookey and you said, but would like some clarification on this: On Sat, 14.10.2006 at 12:06:20 +0200, Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But sadly, I have very little hope that Debian will change anything it's > release structure soon. *sigh* Best

Bug#392906: ITP: ophcrack -- Microsoft Windows password cracker using rainbow tables

2006-10-14 Thread Le_Vert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ophcrack Version : 2.3.3 Upstream Author : Philippe Oechslin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cedric Tissieres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://ophcrack.sourcefo

Bug#392905: ITP: samdump2 -- dumps Windows 2k/NT/XP password hashes

2006-10-14 Thread Le_Vert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: samdump2 Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Nicola Cuomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.studenti.unina.it/~ncuomo/syskey/ * License : GPL w/ OpenSSL except

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 02:30:14AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > In general debian builds everything for every architecture. This is a > very good plan and finds a lot of bugs. Agreed. > However there are some packages which are clearly not sensible on some > arches. Numerical analysis software in gene

Bug#392904: ITP: bkhive -- dumps the syskey bootkey from a Windows NT/2K/XP system hive

2006-10-14 Thread Le_Vert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: bkhive Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Nicola Cuomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.studenti.unina.it/~ncuomo/syskey/ * License : GPL Description :

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-14 Thread Jean-Philippe Garcia Ballester
On Friday 13 October 2006 17:18, John Goerzen wrote: > Even worse, you again have to use KDE or Gnome to take advantage of > network-manager. Why are we leaving CLI users out in the cold? It is > quite possible to use mutt, ssh, and ftp on a laptop. And it's > frustrating to know that my network

Re: gdm/Gnome/KDE and device permissions

2006-10-14 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Qua, 2006-10-11 às 23:17 +0200, Tim Dijkstra escreveu: > One problem is that a user can launch a daemon that keeps the device file > open before she logs out > Also I was referring to how pam_group works, but I find this way of > handling permissions even more broken than pam_group. For example, >

[VAC-RFH] tagcoll2 on Alpha

2006-10-14 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello, I have a problem with the package tagcoll2: it builds on all architectures: http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?email=enrico%40debian.org except Alpha: http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=tagcoll2;ver=2.0.3-2;arch=alpha;stamp=1160679986 I already spent quite some time some m

Re: delay of the full etch freeze

2006-10-14 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html, the oldest package in > NEW is 3 weeks old. 3 weeks ago was more than a full month after the > original proposed base freeze date for etch[1]. That might be misleading, because the date is reset when

Re: Starting services in runlevels 0 and 6

2006-10-14 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jörg Sommer] >> It was pointed out to me, that even the scripts starting with S are >> called with argument 'stop' for runlevels 0 and 6 by /etc/init.d/rc. >> However, the reason why it is implemented that way is still not clear. > > Because the S scripts are run after the K scripts. This way i

Re: Starting services in runlevels 0 and 6

2006-10-14 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Christian Perrier] > From what I see, having this will not happen for etch. Do you think it > could be a release goal for etch+1? I believe it should be a release goal for etch+1 to switch sysv-rc to use a dependency based sequencing, yes. > With that already decided and widely accepted, it wou