Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas? Debian official "update sub-release"

2006-08-29 Thread Martin Schulze
John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 05:09:54PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > ciol wrote: > > > The problem is that Debian doesn't speak a lot about nice features like > > > volatile and backports, for instance in the official web site, where it's > > > difficult to see the links. > > >

Re: The bigger issue is badly licensed blobs (was Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:17:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:48:00PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > > Debian needs to make a decision on how it will deal with this legal > > minefield. That is higher priority than the entire discussion goin

Re: The bigger issue is badly licensed blobs (was Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:48:00PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Debian needs to make a decision on how it will deal with this legal > minefield. That is higher priority than the entire discussion going on > right now, because it determines whether Debian will distribute these 53 > BLOBs *at a

Re: Next Debian Release

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 11:02, Allen wrote: > To whom it may concern, I was wondering if you have schedule or roadmap for > the next available release version of Debian. Google finds it easily. http://www.debian.org/releases/ -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED

The bigger issue is badly licensed blobs (was Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Luk Claes wrote: >> -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> 6c557439-9c21-4eec-ad6c-e6384fab56a8 >> [ 1 ] Choice 1: Release etch on time >> [ 3 ] Choice 2: Do not ship sourceless firmware in

Re: Bits from the DPL: Freedom and etch

2006-08-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Anthony Towns wrote: > (c) A number of drivers in the Linux kernel include firmware to be > uploaded to the chipsets they support that is provided as > either a sequence of hex codes, or as a separate binary file -- > while modifying the code is allowed, in many if not

Re: Bug#385127: ITP: amideco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AMI BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Uwe Hermann wrote: > I _could_ create a merged Debian package (biosdeco maybe?) to prevent > some overhead (if most people think that would be a good idea), > but per default I thought it'd be a better idea to keep them > separated if upstream keeps them separated, too... > Comments, suggest

Re: Bug#385127: ITP: amideco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AMI BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Uwe Hermann
Hi, On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 05:48:23AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > How big are these logo extractors? Would it be easier to roll them > into 1 package named, for example, bios-logo-extractor? They're not very big and seem quite similar, but I've talked with upstream and he thinks it's better kee

Re: Bug#385125: ITP: awardeco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AWARD BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 05:40:52AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Description : Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AWARD BIOS > > > > Awardeco is a program which can decompress BIOS images which > > contain an AWARD BIOS. > > Please specify that in this case, "BIOS images" means BIOS *lo

Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:23:48PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > I disagree, or I am not understanding the difference between the two. > FSF/GNU devotees would much prefer to use a free BIOS[0] or EEPROM > code if they had a choice imho. Yes, and there is a choice, partly already working, partly in t

Re: Policy regarding virtual packages

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:51:39PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On Monday 28 August 2006 21:06, Steve Langasek took the opportunity to say: > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:01:57PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > > Making mail-transport-agent the empty package, and having it depend only > > > on

RE: Next Debian Release

2006-08-29 Thread Allen
Thank you. Allen -Original Message- From: Andrew Donnellan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Next Debian Release Meaning Etch? The current target is December 4th 2006. On 8/30/06, Allen

Re: Next Debian Release

2006-08-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To whom it may concern, I was wondering if you have schedule or > roadmap for the next available release version of Debian. The next release of Debian will happen When It's Ready . Current projections indicate that it may possibly be realistic to expect it

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:24:31AM -1000, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:10:22 -0400]: > > > > Nope, that won't help. Knowing you use Mutt, and unless your MTA is > > > configured in a quite restrictive way, this should solve your problems: > > > > % echo set e

Re: Next Debian Release

2006-08-29 Thread Joey Hess
Allen wrote: > To whom it may concern, I was wondering if you have schedule or roadmap for > the next available > release version of Debian. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/08/msg5.html Updates are posted there peridically. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Dig

Re: Next Debian Release

2006-08-29 Thread Andrew Donnellan
Meaning Etch? The current target is December 4th 2006. On 8/30/06, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To whom it may concern, I was wondering if you have schedule or roadmap for the next available release version of Debian. Thank You Allen Mah HighPoint Technologies, Inc. Technical Marketing Man

Next Debian Release

2006-08-29 Thread Allen
To whom it may concern, I was wondering if you have schedule or roadmap for the next available release version of Debian. Thank You Allen Mah HighPoint Technologies, Inc. Technical Marketing Manager 408-942-5800 x116 www.highpoint-tech.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: bug rates

2006-08-29 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote (elsewhere): > something changes in the archive (often for a transition that needs > to happen), a large number of packages are broken by this, and some > appreciable number of the maintainers don't respond in a reasonable amount > of time ("reasonable" defined as "sufficient t

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:10:22 -0400]: > > Nope, that won't help. Knowing you use Mutt, and unless your MTA is > > configured in a quite restrictive way, this should solve your problems: > > % echo set envelope_from=yes >>~/.muttrc > That did it. Now, care to explain why/how?

Re: Bits from the DPL: Freedom and etch

2006-08-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:39:03PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > I'm very suprised by that mail that completely forgot to mention the > ongoing discussions about a GR about firmwares. There is already three > proposals for that GR[1] and I wonder why those have not been > mentionned. Err, b

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas? Debian official "update sub-release"

2006-08-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:26:22AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: [volatile and backports] > As it is, it is unclear to me who is building those packages, of what > quality they are, and what kind of security support they are receiving. Volatile was set up by Andreas Barth, and is maintained by Andrea

Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Lamb wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:37:23 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> [ x ] Choice 5: Ship *BLOBs* (does *not* mean closed-source >> drivers like nvidia) that can be legally >> redistributed, do not ship BLOBs

Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Lamb
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:37:23 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > [ x ] Choice 5: Ship *BLOBs* (does *not* mean closed-source > drivers like nvidia) that can be legally > redistributed, do not ship BLOBs that can > not be legally redistributed. > > Yes, I k

Re: Policy regarding virtual packages

2006-08-29 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 28 August 2006 21:06, Steve Langasek took the opportunity to say: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:01:57PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > Making mail-transport-agent the empty package, and having it depend only > > on exim4 (the default), should work. Of course, exim4 can't conflict with >

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Bug#385130: ITP: libconfig-any-perl -- Load configuration from different file formats, transparently

2006-08-29 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libconfig-any-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Joel Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://mirrors.kernel.org/cpan/modules/by-module/Config/Config-Any-0

Re: Bug#385127: ITP: amideco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AMI BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uwe Hermann wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: amideco > Version : 0.31e > Upstream Author : Anton Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.kaos.

Bug#385127: ITP: amideco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AMI BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Uwe Hermann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: amideco Version : 0.31e Upstream Author : Anton Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.kaos.ru/biosgfx/ * License : GPL, LGPL Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Bug#385128: ITP: phnxdeco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with a PHOENIX BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uwe Hermann wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: phnxdeco > Version : 0.33 > Upstream Author : Anton Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.kaos.

Re: Bug#385125: ITP: awardeco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AWARD BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uwe Hermann wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: awardeco > Version : 0.2 > Upstream Author : Anton Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.kaos.r

Re: Bits from the DPL: Freedom and etch

2006-08-29 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le lun 28 août 2006 20:35, Anthony Towns a écrit : > Hello, world! > > […] > > Note that both these polls are just an informal way of finding out > what people think, and while they will be considered and taken into > account, they won't necessarily be the final word on the matter. I'm very supr

ITP: dictionaryreader.app -- Dict client for GNUstep

2006-08-29 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: dictionaryreader.app Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Günther Noack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL: http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~guenther/gnustep/dictionaryreader.html * License : GNU GPL Description : Dict clie

Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luk Claes wrote: > -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 6c557439-9c21-4eec-ad6c-e6384fab56a8 > [ 1 ] Choice 1: Release etch on time > [ 3 ] Choice 2: Do not ship sourceless firmware in main > [ 2 ] Choice 3: Support

Bug#385128: ITP: phnxdeco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with a PHOENIX BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Uwe Hermann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: phnxdeco Version : 0.33 Upstream Author : Anton Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.kaos.ru/biosgfx/ * License : GPL, LGPL Programming Lang: C Description

Bug#385121: ITP: midish -- shell-like MIDI sequencer/filter

2006-08-29 Thread Samuel Mimram
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Mimram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: midish Version : 0.2.4 Upstream Author : Alexandre Ratchov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://caoua.org/midish/ * License : 2-clauses BSD Programming Lang: C Descriptio

Bug#385125: ITP: awardeco -- Decompress flashfiles equipped with an AWARD BIOS

2006-08-29 Thread Uwe Hermann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: awardeco Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Anton Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.kaos.ru/biosgfx/ * License : GPL, LGPL Programming Lang: C Description :

Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-29 Thread Uwe Hermann
Hi, -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 6c557439-9c21-4eec-ad6c-e6384fab56a8 [ ] Choice 1: Release etch on time [ 1 ] Choice 2: Do not ship sourceless firmware in main [ ] Choice 3: Support hardware that requires sourceless firmware [ ] Choice 4: None of th

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On the other hand, I already tried to discuss that problem with you > guys (alioth admin team) in May 2006; nothing really came out of > it. Wichert questioned that it was a problem at all, I (tried to) > explain why it was a problem, nothing further