Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 03:26:12PM +, Sam Morris wrote: > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: > >> No support for: (The * are critical) > >> > >>* SATA Hard Drives (*) > >>* Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*) > > >

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: > > No support for: (The * are critical) > > > > * SATA Hard Drives (*) > > * Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*) > > This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half o

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-26 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Brian May [Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:53:01 +1000]: > > "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Robert> On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote: > >> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive > >> appears to be converted successfully - i

Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-26 Thread Brian May
> "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote: >> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive >> appears to be converted successfully - if I do a diff >> operation, it reports all files as

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hubert Chan
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:29:37 -0500, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:19:47PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:26:12 + (UTC), "Sam Morris" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] >> > How do other long-lived distributions handle this problem? How

One non-DD's thoughts on dfsg-freeness and firmware

2006-08-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
I know previously I said I thought that firmware didn't matter for freeness, but I've been convinced by the arguments here that I was wrong. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that as a user (who hopes to get time to contribute, maybe even eventually as a DD), that I chose Debian because of th

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 10:00:01PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > WEP works with network manager but how did you manage WPA via wpa_supplicant > with the GUI setup tools? It only offered WEP when I looked at it. I have to choose ``Connect to Other Wireless Network...'' (or whatever the option in

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:19:47PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:26:12 + (UTC), "Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > >> Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: > >>> No support for: (The * a

Bug#384820: ITP: artphotos -- Photos of art works

2006-08-26 Thread Bart Martens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: artphotos Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Gert Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.gertmartens.be/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: none Description : Ph

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 23:03 schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez: > On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 22:00 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > > Not in my experience. I've handled all network details through > > > Network Manager on this laptop. > > > > AFAIK, no released version of network manager supports WPA. > >

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 02:01:21AM -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Since I have no valid ID-Card (problens with France, since I am origin > > iranish/turkish witeh illegal german adoptivp arents) I can not enter > > the NM... nobody can sign legaly my GPG key and mor

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 août 2006 à 08:43 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > You can put them wherever you want as long as this complies with the FHS > > and that a set of .rtupdate/.rtinstall/.rtremove scripts take care of > > them. This is one of the only things that are currently standardized. > > So wh

[VAC] Tunisia: 09/11 -> 10/01

2006-08-26 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
Hi everyone, >From September 11th to October 1st, I'll be in Tunis (Tunisia). I will be available for discussions about free software and/or arabisation and of course for GPG key signing and CAcert.org assurance. So if we can meet, just contact me (privately) by email. -- adn Mohammed Adnène T

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 22:00 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Not in my experience. I've handled all network details through > > Network Manager on this laptop. > > AFAIK, no released version of network manager supports WPA. AFAIK, network manager uses wpasupplicant -- Yves-Alexis -- To UNSU

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:56:21AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > Because, hardware support seems to be better in Ubutuntu than in Debian? > > I've not tested it by myself, but I've heard from many people claiming > > that their hardware (especially Laptop hardware) works perfectly out of > > the b

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 21:34 schrieb Matthew R. Dempsky: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Additionally, Ubuntu is not more usable for wireless networks than > > Debian: the network configuration only support the useless WEP, no WPA. > > I recently bought a S

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hubert Chan
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:26:12 + (UTC), "Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: >> Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: >>> No support for: (The * are critical) >>> >>> * SATA Hard Drives (*) >>> * Intel AD1981 HD Audi

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Additionally, Ubuntu is not more usable for wireless networks than Debian: > the > network configuration only support the useless WEP, no WPA. I recently bought a System76 laptop with Ubuntu 6.06 pre-installed, and Network Manage

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:46:20AM +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: > I cannot 100% agree with You, althought Your point is for sure partially > valid. > > I really don't believe that Debian can equal itself with Ubuntu in terms > of user friendliness. There is so much to say about that, that I

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:34:51PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 25 août 2006 à 23:11 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > The problem with the python policy is that there is no policy as to > > where the modules are supposed to be installed. Depending on the tool > > you are using (pyth

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Sam Morris
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: >> No support for: (The * are critical) >> >> * SATA Hard Drives (*) >> * Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*) > > This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half of userla

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: >> No support for: (The * are critical) >> >> * SATA Hard Drives (*) * Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*) > > This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half of > userl

Bug#384776: ITP: lua-posix -- posix library for the lua5.1 scripting language

2006-08-26 Thread Enrico Tassi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Enrico Tassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: lua-posix Version : 1.0 (no upstram version number) Upstream Author : Luiz Henrique de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. * URL : http://luaforge.net/projects/lposix * License

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: > No support for: (The * are critical) > > * SATA Hard Drives (*) > * Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*) This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half of userland would not fit this hardware, so who cares. > * IPW3945 w

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 02:16:53AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > OK, I have a brand-spanking new IBM/Lenovo T60p laptop with nice, fast > > SATA Drives, Intel Dual Core CPU's; 1600x1200 display --- sexy > > machine. Debian stable doesn't run on it. Ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed > > Out of curiousit

Bug#384743: ITP: lua5.1-policy -- lua5.1 policy for debian packages

2006-08-26 Thread Enrico Tassi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Enrico Tassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: lua5.1-policy Version : 1 Upstream Author : Enrico Tassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-lua/ * License : MIT/X Programming Lang: make,

tomcat startup problem

2006-08-26 Thread Oliver Block
Hello everybody, my log reports: * Using CATALINA_BASE:   /var/lib/tomcat4 Using CATALINA_HOME:   /usr/share/tomcat4 Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /var/lib/tomcat4/temp Using JAVA_HOME:       /usr/lib/kaffe Using Security Ma

Transitioning packages to testing that are not built anymore on some arches

2006-08-26 Thread Luk Claes
Hi There are quite some packages mainly in contrib and non-free that aren't built anymore on some (release) architectures. These packages don't transition to testing as that would mean a regression. Though it's not always feasable/better to have these packages built on all arches where they once

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:21:26AM +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le samedi 26 août 2006 à 00:16 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > > You can put them wherever you want as long as this complies with the FHS > > > and that a set of .rtupdate/.rtinstall/.rtremove scripts take car

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 août 2006 à 00:16 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > You can put them wherever you want as long as this complies with the FHS > > and that a set of .rtupdate/.rtinstall/.rtremove scripts take care of > > them. This is one of the only things that are currently standardized. > > Wasn't it

Bug#384693: marked as done (Debian traduction team should work on Xt applications localization too)

2006-08-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:35:39 +0200 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Debian traduction team should work on Xt applications localization too has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. I

Bug#384693: Debian traduction team should work on Xt applications localization too

2006-08-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 10:00 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Why did you reassign this bug to xterm? I made a mistake, for which I apologise. > The real purpose of the bug is not to provide the xterm fr > translations, but to have the debian i18n team start the process of > translating all Xt app

Processed: Re: Debian traduction team should work on Xt applications localization too

2006-08-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > clone 384693 -1 Bug#384693: Debian traduction team should work on Xt applications localization too Bug 384693 cloned as bug 384712. > reassign 384693 general Bug#384693: Debian traduction team should work on Xt applications localization too Bug reass

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:42:56PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:56:21AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > This sort of vague anecdotal "evidence" has been repeated over and over. > > It may be true, but as far as I know, nobody has yet to come forth with > > reporting specif