Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Sylvain Le Gall
Hello, On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 04:45:52PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.23.1634 +0100]: > > >It's an idea with the final goal to provide most of what > > >ifupdown+guessnet+resolvconf do now, > > > > I would personally add ifrename to

Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64

2006-08-23 Thread Sander Marechal
Hello, I am looking to create .deb's for x86-64. I have an AMD64 but run an i386 OS due to the lack of some 64-bit packages (like flash and what-not). I have pbuilder all set up to build packages for i386, but I wonder if it's possible to use it to create x86-64 packages as well. After all, I do h

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow: > >> What code do you need there? If the rred method keeps the full Index >> file in memory during patching it can just be fed all the patches one >> after another and only write out the final result at the >> end. Combining the

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:38:59 +0700, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "http and ftp will always work" is a really good point... someone > mentioned `corporate filtering,' I think bandwidth limiting by ISPs > would be a bigger problem. Shouldn't be a deal killer though, just > don't use bitto

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Miles Bader
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I want to use Python for netconf and possibly later port it to C++. Python (and any language that depends on vast amounts of installed infrastructure) seems a bit dodgy for a core low-level facility. I guess if you only intend to add high-level layers

Bug#384407: ITP: libtest-harness-perl -- Run Perl standard test scripts with statistics

2006-08-23 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libtest-harness-perl Version : 2.62 Upstream Author : Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Test * License : Same terms as Perl itself

Bug#384401: ITP: rash -- Rash is a PHP/MySQL script for the management of quotes

2006-08-23 Thread Pierre-Alexandre Meyer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Pierre-Alexandre Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: rash Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Tom Cuchta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/rqms/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: PHP Des

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 03:34:34PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Wed August 23 2006 12:32, Blars Blarson wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >When a nice bittorrent frontend is installed, the user will only > > > have to click on the link to start the downloa

Re: ITP: fusedav -- userspace file system driver for mounting WebDAV shares

2006-08-23 Thread Sebastian Harl
Hi, > Did you consult with Lennart Poettering before you take over? I'm not taking over this package. Lennart Poettering filed an RFP. > Anyway, the neon dependency is OK just by now. The neon26 package is > accepted today to the archive, so you can build depend on it. I know. That's why I am

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed August 23 2006 12:32, Blars Blarson wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >When a nice bittorrent frontend is installed, the user will only > > have to click on the link to start the download. This is true for > > Windows and Linux. > > You left out the reco

Re: ITP: fusedav -- userspace file system driver for mounting WebDAV shares

2006-08-23 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 21:16 +0200, Sebastian Harl wrote: > retitle 379147 ITP: fusedav -- userspace file system driver for mounting > WebDAV shares > owner 379147 ! > thanks [...] > I'm going to package this software. Did you consult with Lennart Poettering before you take over? Anyway, the neon

ITP: fusedav -- userspace file system driver for mounting WebDAV shares

2006-08-23 Thread Sebastian Harl
retitle 379147 ITP: fusedav -- userspace file system driver for mounting WebDAV shares owner 379147 ! thanks > * Package name: fusedav > Version : 0.2 > Upstream Author : Lennart Poettering > * URL : http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/fusedav/ > * License : GP

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >When a nice bittorrent frontend is installed, the user will only have to >click on the link to start the download. This is true for Windows and >Linux. You left out the reconfigure the firewall(s) step. Not only is this non-trivial, the u

Bug#384350: ITP: luaexpat -- bindings for the expat library to the lua language

2006-08-23 Thread Enrico Tassi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Enrico Tassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: luaexpat Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : oberto Ierusalimschy, André Carregal and Tomás Guisasola as part of the Kepler Project <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.keplerpro

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed August 23 2006 05:30, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Mittwoch 23 August 2006 12:41 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > > Le mercredi 23 août 2006 à 11:30 +0200, Christian Perrier a écrit : > > > I have a few doubts about the knowledge of the average user for > > > Bittorrent. For sure, having BitTorren

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:05:31 +0700, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This means you're suggesting a whole new aspect of functionality to be introduced to udev, because udev is currently, AFAIK, only for creating device nodes under /dev/. cat /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.23.1659 +0100]: > This means you're suggesting a whole new aspect of functionality > to be introduced to udev, because udev is currently, AFAIK, only > for creating device nodes under /dev/. cat /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rule

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:45:52 +0700, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would personally add ifrename to this list. I would suggest udev instead. This means you're suggesting a whole new aspect of functionality to be introduced to udev, because udev is currently, AFAIK, only fo

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.23.1634 +0100]: > >It's an idea with the final goal to provide most of what > >ifupdown+guessnet+resolvconf do now, > > I would personally add ifrename to this list. I would suggest udev instead. > >with better integration with wireless

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:17:23 +0700, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would add my thoughts there but currently I know nothing about netconf beyond what's written on that page now. What is the scope of netconf? Is it supposed to supersede ifupdown, supplement it, or be an alternativ

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.23.1610 +0100]: > I would add my thoughts there but currently I know nothing about netconf > beyond what's written on that page now. What is the scope of netconf? Is > it supposed to supersede ifupdown, supplement it, or be an alternat

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:20:26 +0700, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/netconf . It would be great if you could help flesh out that page with your excellent arguments and thoughts. Also, if you are interested in working on netconf (which cu

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:11:16 +0700, David Goodenough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Obviously if you are configuring a server you do not want others than the administrator setting up the network, but if you are the sole user of a laptop there needs to be a safe way for the user (non-technical) to

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:03:49 +0700, Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been wondering for a while if it might not be possible to develop a more up-to-date ifup/down that would a) maintain suitability for non-graphical environments and b) have enough functionality, cross-distro, to be us

Re: need for your services

2006-08-23 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Federica Fainardi 2006-08-23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We are looking for someone who can install and configure the "LINUX > ES4.1" operating system on a new server situated in our POP, in London. Dear sir, we do not offer end user support ourselves. We have compiled a list of companies who do s

need for your services

2006-08-23 Thread Federica Fainardi
Dear Sirs, I'm writing you on behalf of International Telecommunications System Sam, a Monaco Principality-based company, with several years' experience to its credit in the pre-paid international phone card and phone centre sector. We are looking for someone who can install and configure

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2006-08-23 kello 10:46 +0200, Josselin Mouette kirjoitti: > Le samedi 12 août 2006 à 19:29 +0300, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > > la, 2006-08-12 kello 18:10 +0200, Pierre Habouzit kirjoitti: > > > > >/usr/share/pycentral > > > > >/usr/share/python-support > > > > > > > > Th

Re: Quickcam pro 4000, pwc problem

2006-08-23 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * John Talbut [Wed, Aug 23 2006, 11:59:43AM]: > Thanks both for your help. Unfortunately it has not worked. > > >> 2. Setting up module-assistant: > >> > >> apt-get install module-assistant > >> m-a prepare > I did these (using aptitude rather than apt-get). The install exi

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 23 August 2006 12:41 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > Le mercredi 23 août 2006 à 11:30 +0200, Christian Perrier a écrit : > > I have a few doubts about the knowledge of the average user for > > Bittorrent. For sure, having BitTorrent helps reducing the load > > because all users that have so

Re: Re: Quickcam pro 4000, pwc problem

2006-08-23 Thread Tanguy Moal
Hello,I haveCONFIG_USB_PWC=yset for the kernel, which I recompiled for another reason yesterday.  Would this stop the module compiling?I am not sure, but I think this should be set to "m" rather than "y" (the difference is that the former builds a module, while the later adds support for this drive

Re: Re: Quickcam pro 4000, pwc problem

2006-08-23 Thread John Talbut
Thanks both for your help. Unfortunately it has not worked. >> 2. Setting up module-assistant: >> >> apt-get install module-assistant >> m-a prepare >> >> 3. Downloading and building the external sources: >> >> apt-get install pwc-source >> m-a build pwc-source >> >> 4.

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > When a nice bittorrent frontend is installed, the user will only have to > click on the link to start the download. This is true for Windows and > Linux. I don't doubt it..:-) But I doubt that many users have a nice Bittorrent frontend and, what I

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 23 août 2006 à 11:30 +0200, Christian Perrier a écrit : > I have a few doubts about the knowledge of the average user for > Bittorrent. For sure, having BitTorrent helps reducing the load > because all users that have some know-how with it will use it...but > making it the main distribu

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
> Many users do not know what an ISO image is, either. If someone creates My knowledge of the average user (one of the few things I claim to have quite big experience of) is that they do. Especially, the "Bob User" who's the D-I team favourite user (the user that's not a complete nerd with comput

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:30:53AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > I have a few doubts about the knowledge of the average user for > Bittorrent. For sure, having BitTorrent helps reducing the load > because all users that have some know-how with it will use it...but > making it the main distribu

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
> several servers at once with one download. We should instead push > bittorrent as the main distribution media for ISOs. I have a few doubts about the knowledge of the average user for Bittorrent. For sure, having BitTorrent helps reducing the load because all users that have some know-how with

Re: Status of BSD-like licences with advertisement clauses.

2006-08-23 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ganesan Rajagopal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060823 10:40]: > >> I have been told by two different developers that licences using the > >> 4-clauses BSD licence as a template are free or non-free > > > Sounds like some DD could use a licensing refresher course. 4-clause BSD has > > always been conside

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 12 août 2006 à 19:29 +0300, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > la, 2006-08-12 kello 18:10 +0200, Pierre Habouzit kirjoitti: > > > >/usr/share/pycentral > > > >/usr/share/python-support > > > > > > These location are tool specific and should not be referenced > > > explicit

Re: Status of BSD-like licences with advertisement clauses.

2006-08-23 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:20:02AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> I have been told by two different developers that licences using the >> 4-clauses BSD licence as a template are free or non-free > Sounds like some DD could use a licensing refres

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Mgr. Peter Tuharsky
> First of all, please use a MUA that doesn't break threads. I'm using Thunderbird and don't intend to switch. > Bittorrent is by far the most efficient protocol when it comes to large > file distribution. OK Josselin Mouette wrote / napísal(a): First of all, please use a MUA that doesn't br

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
First of all, please use a MUA that doesn't break threads. Le mercredi 23 août 2006 à 08:10 +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky a écrit : > If that's intended, then it needs to be done in such a way that even > low-to-moderately-skilled user can set it up with ease. > > I know it's silly to even mention