I want one of those!

2006-08-17 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Now I'm not a buildd operator nor do I have any experience on non-x86 arches, but a 16 core MIPS 1U server that only pulls 50W power and that ships with Debian preinstalled just has a very high coolness factor :-) http://www.movidis.com/products/rev.asp http://www.informationweek.com/news/showAr

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Greenland] > By "autoconf related problems" I mean things like it suddenly > deciding it's running a cross compiler, or that stdlib.h is > missing. A lot of this kind of stuff could be improved by simply > SHOWING ME THE FSCKING ERROR MESSAGES, rather than just checking the > return code an

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:48:24PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > So are some widespread programming languages. If you blindly follow bad > examples and bad styles you can dynamite yourself happily without even > noticing, but that does not make them disused or abandoned (on the contrary > some

Bug#383563: ITP: dicomnifti -- converts DICOM files into the NIfTI format

2006-08-17 Thread Michael Hanke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dicomnifti Version : 2.11 Upstream Author : Valerio Luccio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * URL : https://www.cbi.nyu.edu/public/software/dinifti/ * License : GPL Programming Lang:

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the wrong ideas (was: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier)

2006-08-17 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:29:31 +0200 Michal Čihař <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:59:26 -0700 (PDT) > Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > > That is a *very* bad idea. > > > > Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few

Bug#383550: ITP: aubio -- library for audio labelling

2006-08-17 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: aubio Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://aubio.piem.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : library fo

Re: afraid to build from source? (was Re: Remove cdrtools)

2006-08-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Wouter Verhelst] > It has nothing to do with "being afraid to", but everything with "not > needing to". There's lots of things we don't _need_ to do but we do anyway, as a matter of quality of implementation. I believe that building a package from source is something we should do as well, if on

Re: libapt-pkg-ruby

2006-08-17 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 10:43 -0300, Fabricio "aybabtu" Cannini wrote: > Sometime ago, i've seen ( don't remember when or where ) a DD orphaning > libapt-pkg-ruby. Where can i get it ( if it still exists, and no, google > didn't helped much :( so that i can study and perhaps adopt it ? You can sta

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-17 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The suggestion to use "nodaemon" as default for exim4 when only handling > local > mail will probably be rejected? I guess you meant nullmailer. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAI

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 August 2006 19:21, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Donnerstag 10 August 2006 23:56 schrieb Roger Leigh: > > The inetd daemon installed by default: > > etch: openbsd-inetd | netkit-inetd > > Note: etch beta 3 show me a dpkg status of "ic" for netkit-inetd after > a fresh installat

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 17 August 2006 19:02, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 16-Aug-06, 20:49 (CDT), Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for useless autoconf tests - have you looked at how autoconf is > > used? You pick the tests you think you need. It's not like the system > > forces you to use a

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 10 August 2006 23:56 schrieb Roger Leigh: > The inetd daemon installed by default: > etch: openbsd-inetd | netkit-inetd Note: etch beta 3 show me a dpkg status of "ic" for netkit-inetd after a fresh installation. openbsd-inetd is installed. Where does this come from? The de

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:00:13PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > but that Solaris itself is not > > particularly well suited to PC-class hardware (because it has less > > drivers, or whatever). > > This is true, but OpenSolaris is getti

Re: Why no /usr/local/etc in Debian?

2006-08-17 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
I wrote: > I suggest you file a severity > "serious" bug against the base-files package, since it is responsible > for creating the directories under /usr/local in its postinst. The > serious severity is justified IMO since the existence of /usr/local/etc > is a "must" directive of the FHS. (Any

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And, for example, all of a sudden (autoconf 2.5, I think) every/many > (newly generated or regenerated) configure script starting checking for > C++ compilers, Fortran compilers, etc. etc. etc. even for pure C > projects. This is a libtool bug. -- R

Debian ISOs

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony L. Bryan
Hi, Metalinks might be helpful on Debian's download page for CD/DVD images. You could have a single quick link to your ISOs that contains all the mirror/p2p/checksum info in it. Metalinks, a cross platform vendor neutral fortmat, are used by download managers & contain Mirror & p2p locations for

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Aug-06, 09:06 (CDT), Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, sw with custom build systems were always a pain: > usually they had no idea how to build a shared lib on AIX, Neither does libtool. But I can usually easily change the Makefile to fix that problem; libtool is

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Aug-06, 20:49 (CDT), Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for useless autoconf tests - have you looked at how autoconf is > used? You pick the tests you think you need. It's not like the system > forces you to use a certain range of obsolete baseline tests. A huge > number o

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16-Aug-06, 19:23 (CDT), Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeah, wanting to use functionality when it's available is always a >> dreadful idea. Far better to reimplement it locally in order to ensure >> that we have more copies of it to

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Aug-06, 20:23 (CDT), Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The main problem with your argument is that you seem to be looking at > poorly written programs that use autoconf, and jumping to the conclusion > that autoconf is the reason for the poor programming -- it's not. Bad > programmer

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Aug-06, 19:23 (CDT), Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, wanting to use functionality when it's available is always a > dreadful idea. Far better to reimplement it locally in order to ensure > that we have more copies of it to fix should there ever be any sort of > security

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 07:11:19PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > So you chose to use a function not reliably available. Sounds like bad > planning to me. More than a year ago the plan was that we'll support Debian Sarge only. Then a couple of weeks ago our project partner said they'll be using

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-17 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:46:49PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > hmmm... I don't think a sane seasoned Solaris admin would evaluate a > > Unix-like operating system for server-class work by installing its > > 'Desktop' task, perhap

libapt-pkg-ruby

2006-08-17 Thread Fabricio \"aybabtu\" Cannini
Hi! Sometime ago, i've seen ( don't remember when or where ) a DD orphaning libapt-pkg-ruby. Where can i get it ( if it still exists, and no, google didn't helped much :( so that i can study and perhaps adopt it ? Or tell me that i haven't woken up yet. :) Sreehc! -- I cannot install on the

Re: Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2006-08-17 Thread Alfonso_Arizaga/etxekide . com
-- La información incluida en el presente correo electronico y cualquier archivo adjunto al mismo están dirigidos exclusivamente a su destinatario.Pueden contener información confidencial o privilegiada. Si recibe esta comunicación sin ser el dest

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the wrong ideas (was: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier)

2006-08-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 03:59:26AM -0700, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > That is a *very* bad idea. > > Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few > people on a Debian mailing list not blindly accepting > whatever comes from the Ubuntu world. Well, yeah, but in fa

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:46:49PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > hmmm... I don't think a sane seasoned Solaris admin would evaluate a > Unix-like operating system for server-class work by installing its > 'Desktop' task, perhaps? A seasoned Solaris admin may very well be of the opinion tha

Re: afraid to build from source? (was Re: Remove cdrtools)

2006-08-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 02:42:09AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Michael Poole] > > On top of the default automake behavior being horribly broken, does > > that make usual revision control practices horribly broken? > > It really bothers me to hear people claim as a best practice that you > sho

Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-17 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
* Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-14 07:11]: > You can't tell from the message if some actually looks at the > moderation queue. I think it's fine to moderate your maintainer list, > but you should tell Mailman (or whatever MLM you use) not to tell the > message sender that his messag

Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-17 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
* Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-17 10:52]: > * The warning message implies that people who send bug reports to > Debian must also subscribe to upstream mailing lists. This is > unacceptable (IMHO). I already subscribe to far too many mailing lists. As regards mailing lists managed by Mai

Re: Orphaned Packages

2006-08-17 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi Klaus > So is there a way to give official packages to debian without being a > official maintainer? Sure, you can prepare the package and then give it to an official debian developer who can upload it for you and therefore act as a kind of sponsor. You are still responsible for the package a

Re: Orphaned Packages

2006-08-17 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Klaus... On Thursday 17 August 2006 10:47, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I read that the packages cvsps and xearth are orphaned now. I might be > able to get over this packages. But there is a small problem: > > Years ago I start getting a official debian maintainer. Unfortunately it > went asleep as

Orphaned Packages

2006-08-17 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I read that the packages cvsps and xearth are orphaned now. I might be able to get over this packages. But there is a small problem: Years ago I start getting a official debian maintainer. Unfortunately it went asleep as I have no time to fini

Re: libslang2 breaks jed

2006-08-17 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Jörg Sommer wrote: > Hi, > > I've two problems with libslang2. The first is, the package libslang2 > includes a patch that changes the behaviour of a function. But jed > expects the function behaviour as given in the original slang2 library. > I've reported this bug #369152, 80 days ago, but the ma

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 16-Aug-06, 04:00 (CDT), Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 02:26:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: >> >> > And guess what? System tests are actually more reliable, especially >> > when the user tells you what the s

Problems with security updates

2006-08-17 Thread Mgr. Peter Tuharsky
Ralph, it's interesting, but now it works for me too, versions are the same. Just few days ago it "crashed happily". Well, seems it would be harder to abandon Debian than it seemed :o) In fact, very hard for me.. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject