Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Miles Bader
Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Autotools do require you to do things the way they want, indeed. And > every single autotool uses a different obscure language. Some > consistency would be good -- but, I challenge you: write something > that works better. There's a lot of deficiencies

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Hi list, > > I have some questions I hope some of you have an answer for. > > I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools > but only has a plain Makefile. > > 1) Can I use dh_make? > 2) Does Debian policy have something to say about it? No. >

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Steve Greenland wrote: > On 14-Aug-06, 15:59 (CDT), Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wouter Verhelst writes: >> > In the case of autotools, the fact is that usually it's configure.ac or >> > Makefile.am being horribly broken, rather than the autotools. Oh yeah. Most people don't know

Re: autotools and programming style (was: Remove cdrtools)

2006-08-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Hendrik Sattler wrote: > You mean the difference between manpages-posix-dev (in non-free) and > manpages-dev (in main)? The first is not proposed by Debian (I still don't > get why anone would want to change a standards document as not changing it > is the whole purpose of its existence.) In order

cdrtools alternatives (was Re: cdrtools)

2006-08-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Eduard Bloch wrote: > Then let's see what a user of your software would do, in a > not-so-uncommon use case: > > User A wants to burn a CD-ROM. She gets cdrtools, In reality, as "user A", I switched to using cdrdao for making serious audio CDs and CD-RWs, and for burning disks from .iso files: th

Re: Code of Conduct on the Debian mailinglists

2006-08-14 Thread Matthias Julius
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So I really wonder why mailing lists are so common. > > It sort of depends on what you're looking for. > > Some advantages of mailing lists: > > * E-mail generally has a "wider reach" -- it gets past corporate >

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
[Sorry for sending the message only to you John =(] Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:03:52 -0500 John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Not if this is their first exposure to Debian. Say you were a > seasoned Solaris admin, and you installed Debian to play around with. > You get a prompt saying that

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-08-14 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:28:58PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 02 Aug 2006, David Nusinow wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:56:44PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > > * David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]: > > > > > > > (I'm seriously > > > > interested in setting up git

Re: Bug#382994: ITP: rebase -- The restriction enzyme database, from New England Biolabs

2006-08-14 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:57:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I explained the upstream authors the difference between main and > non-free, and asked if they think that we can redistribute their data in > a dfsg-free manner, and here is their answer: > > "REBASE is free to its users and they ma

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Poole
Wouter Verhelst writes: >> In my experience, this is greatly exacerbated and perhaps even >> primarily due to older versions of autotools encouraging or requiring >> behavior that later versions of autotools declare to be broken. > [...] >> The situation is not helped when these mutually incompati

Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-14 Thread Brian May
> "huggie" == Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: huggie> On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:10:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit huggie> wrote: >> maintainer addresses HAVE to accept bug reports and mails from >> non-subscribers. This setting is not correct, please fix it >> asap.

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> Please don't mess with gettext this way. You should ask Ubuntu people to > rewrite the lines so that the 'branding' is removed or, at most, is handled > by a variable that *is* replaced at runtime (this is what was introduced in > Debian Installer). If you do string-based replacement you are goin

Re: Proposal: searchable d.o/security/

2006-08-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Moritz Muehlenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-15 03:07]: > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > >> today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if=20 > >> you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed=20 > >> something). > > > > What kind of search are yo

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 09:50:51PM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Hi list, > > I have some questions I hope some of you have an answer for. > > I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools > but only has a plain Makefile. > > 1) Can I use dh_make? Sure. > 2) Does D

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 03:53:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The *real* problem with the whole autotools disaster is that it promotes > > a braindead idea of how to achieve portability: a #ifdef branch for > > every different system (or library ve

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Ben Pfaff
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The *real* problem with the whole autotools disaster is that it promotes > a braindead idea of how to achieve portability: a #ifdef branch for > every different system (or library version, or whatever), strewn > throughout the entire codebase. Real por

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:59:24PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:58:13AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > >> On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: > >> >

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Riku Voipio said: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:09:33PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > This is of course a lie.or why don't you like to prove it: > > > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/problems.html > > > Come back to reallity, the k3b maintainers did al

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 14 August 2006 23:10 schrieb Bernd Schubert: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > If used properly, autotools usually do their job; and pretty well, too. > > Just have a look here http://lwn.net/Articles/188693 KDE never used the autotools properly (I'd rather call it hacking into it), probably

autotools and programming style (was: Remove cdrtools)

2006-08-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 14 August 2006 23:27 schrieb Steve Greenland: > On 14-Aug-06, 15:59 (CDT), Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > In the case of autotools, the fact is that usually it's configure.ac or > > > Makefile.am being horribly broken, rather than the autotools.

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The *real* problem with the whole autotools disaster is that it promotes > a braindead idea of how to achieve portability: a #ifdef branch for > every different system (or library version, or whatever), strewn > throughout the entire codebase. Real por

"only declare Provides when"

2006-08-14 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon August 14 2006 00:03, Steve Langasek wrote: > ... my premise > that pure python modules should only declare Provides when something > exists in the archive which actually *needs* them... What of stuff which will never be in the archive? ["ask for it" is an obvious answer, so...] Any though

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Bernd Schubert
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:58:13AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: >> On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: >> > > Btw, why always the autotools while there's this nice >> > > cmake? >> > >

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Steve Greenland
On 14-Aug-06, 15:59 (CDT), Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > In the case of autotools, the fact is that usually it's configure.ac or > > Makefile.am being horribly broken, rather than the autotools. > > In my experience, this is greatly exacerbated and perhaps

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 09:52:01PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:58:13AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: > > > > Btw, why always the autotools

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 2006-08-14 22:55:41, Sam Morris wrote: Sure, just customise the rules file it generates to not call a configure script. The rules file can really contain anything you want, as long as it builds a decent package when called. :) Nice, I have been accustomed to use dh_make and the various conf

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 2006-08-14 22:33:49, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Do you plan to support other system than linux in a fork? If no, there is Well, the software is already prepared to support *BSD, Solaris and Linux, but I only intent to support Linux - the only thing I use on a day to day basis. absolutely

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Poole
Wouter Verhelst writes: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:58:13AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: >> On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: >> > > Btw, why always the autotools while there's this nice >> > > cmake? >> >

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Sam Morris
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:50:51 +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools > but only has a plain Makefile. > > 1) Can I use dh_make? Sure, just customise the rules file it generates to not call a configure script. The rules file can real

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 14 August 2006 21:50 schrieb Michael Rasmussen: > I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools [...] > 3) Would it be ok if I converted it to use autotools my self? Do you plan to support other system than linux in a fork? If no, there is absolutely no gain in us

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:58:13AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: > > > Btw, why always the autotools while there's this nice > > > cmake? > > > > I've never used cmake myse

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Greenland wrote: > On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: >>> Btw, why always the autotools while there's this nice >>> cmake? >> I've never used cmake myself, so

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Carlos C Soto
Michael Rasmussen wrote: Hi list, I have some questions I hope some of you have an answer for. I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools but only has a plain Makefile. 1) Can I use dh_make? I don't think so, I hardly use debhelper but I think dh_make is used when

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:09:33PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > This is of course a lie.or why don't you like to prove it: > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/problems.html > Come back to reallity, the k3b maintainers did already give up with > Debian versions of cdrtools and use se

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-14 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 08:50:44AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > * The "system mta" should provide /usr/sbin/sendmail, as well as > mailq, runq, and man pages. The alternative system is able to link > several alternatives. Right, so three should be no problems there? > * The "servic

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Hi again, Sorry, I forgot the must obvious question. 5) Would there be any interest in the community for be doing it? This question should have been numbered 1 since it is clearly a show-stopper:-) -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://

Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Hi list, I have some questions I hope some of you have an answer for. I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools but only has a plain Makefile. 1) Can I use dh_make? 2) Does Debian policy have something to say about it? 3) Would it be ok if I converted it to use aut

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:06:59 +0100, Peter Collingbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official >repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create >a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server >and vmware-mo

Re: Use of generic init script names [WAS Re: Status of inetd for etch]

2006-08-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:24:11 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >However, the cyrus init script is called /etc/init.d/cyrus21, the >courier init script is /etc/init.d/courier-imap and the dovecot init >script is /etc/init.d/dovecot. It would seem to me that if these >packages a

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

2006-08-14 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 07:58:20PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > I don't know about the installer, but all filesystems I created with > mke2fs recently also have resize_inode, which isn't even in the tune2fs > manpage. It's not in the tune2fs man page because e2fsprogs doesn't currently support addi

Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

2006-08-14 Thread Theodore Tso
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:02:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > For dir_index you have to take the FS offline, tune2fs and fsck it or > you totaly corrupt it. Actually, that's not true. It's perfectly safe to run tune2fs on a mounted volume to enable the dir_index feature. All directorie

Re: Proposal: searchable d.o/security/

2006-08-14 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: >> today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if=20 >> you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed=20 >> something). > > What kind of search are you trying to do? Package to DSA? Bug to DSA? > If so, it would not be difficul

debug packages

2006-08-14 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi just a little reminder - if you add a debug package to your package in the archive then always have its priority at extra, not optional. Reason: optional is defined as "This is all the software that you might reasonably want to install if you didn't know what it was and don't have specialized

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:36:29 -0500, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Hate following up my own message. This is a biased recap of a discussion Steve ands I had on IRC, and ou should wait his response before taking my version of the discussion without a grain of salt. > On S

Re: Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Frans Pop writes: > >On Monday 14 August 2006 14:43, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> The DVD torrents are already produced, just not linked from the page >> at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. Check out > >I've committed a change to the d-i page that adds all missing links (there >were a few

Re: Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 14 August 2006 14:43, Steve McIntyre wrote: > The DVD torrents are already produced, just not linked from the page > at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. Check out I've committed a change to the d-i page that adds all missing links (there were a few others that were omitted

Re: Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-14 Thread Paul Brossier
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:02:22PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1418 +0100]: > > * Package name: python-alsaaudio > > Sweet. An ITP for a package already in unstable... moo :P at that time, the package was not listed in bugs.d.o, a

interface copyrights, was: Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, On Sat, 12.08.2006 at 20:40:37 +0200, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a countermeasure, the FSF tries to extend copyright to interfaces, > so that you do create a derivative work merely by programming to a > specific interface of a library written by someone else, without >

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Steve Greenland
On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: > > Btw, why always the autotools while there's this nice > > cmake? > > I've never used cmake myself, so I can't speak for how nice > it is, but autotools (for all its problem

Bug#382995: ITP: nekohtml -- HTML parser for Java

2006-08-14 Thread marcus
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: nekohtml Version : 0.9.5 Upstream Author : Andy Clark * URL or Web page : http://people.apache.org/~andyc/neko/doc/html/ * License : CyberNeko Software License, Version 1.0 Description : HTML parser for Java This is a

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Sunday 13 August 2006 09:18, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > * using snapshots and clones based off them are quite useful > > Lvm snapshots work just fine. You've obviously never run VMware if you think that an LVM snapshot is a replacement for a VMWare snapshot. It leaves me suspicious that

Bug#382994: ITP: rebase -- The restriction enzyme database, from New England Biolabs

2006-08-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: rebase Version : NA Upstream Author : Dr. Richard J. Roberts and Dana Macelis (http://rebase.neb.com/rebase/rebase.staff.html) URL : http://rebase.neb.com License : P

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Brett Parker
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 10:57:45PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should look at the video I pointed you at. You just accused me of > > being a liar. If i would have your low level I would now do the same you > > I did look at this video: it verifi

Bug#352653: RFP: libmail-domainkeys-perl -- Perl DomainKeys implementation

2006-08-14 Thread gregor herrmann
Anything new regarding libmail-domainkeys-perl? I'd really like to see this module in Debian. Cheers, gregor -- .''`. http://info.comodo.priv.at/ | gpg key ID: 0x00F3CFE4 : :' : debian: the universal operating system - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' member of https://www.vibe.at/ | how to

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Brett Parker
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:09:33PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Do you really believe that you are able to deflect from the main problem: > > > > > > The original sources do not have such bugs and many Debian users that > > > did write b

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Sam Morris
> - With Linux 2.6.x, it is impossible to run cdrecord without > root privs. > > Do not believe single persons who claim otherwise as Linux-2.6.x > filters away random SCSI commands when cdrecord does not have > root-privs and as cdrecord heavily depends

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have some more thoughts to offer on the example Steve presented: in essence, he is talking about a package that has become incompatible with the version that was in stable. On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:03:13 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 0

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you really believe that you are able to deflect from the main problem: > > > > The original sources do not have such bugs and many Debian users that > > did write bug reports against the Debian version of cdrtools did already > > switch to a

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #include > * Joerg Schilling [Sun, Aug 13 2006, 12:28:15PM]: > > > The original sources do not have such bugs and many Debian users that > > Most of that is true if and only if the users follow your > recommendations and strictly use kernel 2.4.x, ide-sc

Re: Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 07:25:07PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.14.1917 +0100]: > > does that imply that an ITP is not checked against the current available > > packages? Should there be a check? > [..] > The ITP should have been filed a day o

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:59:57AM +0100, Peter Collingbourne wrote: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > > > reposi

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect > that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid mes

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The GPL (section 3) does restrict distributions of binaries ("object > code or executable form", to use the words of the GPL, to be more > accurate, since the GPL only uses the term "binary" once, and only to > refer to a completely different issue) and sta

Re: Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
I wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >>This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) >>--enig40699EE2A035BC4485AA339B >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >>Joey Hess wrote: >>> Sven Mueller wrote: >

Re: Proposal: searchable d.o/security/

2006-08-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Javier, * Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-14 13:48]: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Hi, > > today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if > > you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed > >

Re: Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) >--enig40699EE2A035BC4485AA339B >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Joey Hess wrote: >> Sven Mueller wrote: >>> My reason for

Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Igor Stroh
Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > Em Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:31:29 +0100 > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > >> ... twice the size, but it can do a whole lot more. And it has the >> added benefit that it can actually fire off GET/HEAD/POST/whatever >> requests. >> >> This is libwww-perl. I

Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:31:29 +0100 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > ... twice the size, but it can do a whole lot more. And it has the > added benefit that it can actually fire off GET/HEAD/POST/whatever > requests. > > This is libwww-perl. I don't object to furl, but so far I am n

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:58:53 +0900 Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Maybe a way to solve the problem would be to make clear in the package > name, documentation and popup messages that it is not a native Debian > tool? For instance, it could be called "Ubuntu update notifier for > D

Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 14, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is libwww-perl. I don't object to furl, but so far I am not > convinced. I object, since so far it looks like a worthless waste of disk space. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.14.0735 +0100]: > It' s more little and easy to use... a little utility. > I must specify this in description, sorry. > > $ ls -alh /usr/bin/furl > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8,6K 2006-08-11 10:18 /usr/bin/furl > > $ls -alh /usr/bin/lynx.stab

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 09:03:52PM -0500, John Goerzen a écrit : > > Say you were a > seasoned Solaris admin, and you installed Debian to play around with. > You get a prompt saying that you have to reboot because zlib or > something has been upgraded. Are you going to think this is a serious > o

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect > that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid mes

Re: Is inability to operate with root read-only (and separate /etc, /dev, etc) a bug or design decision?

2006-08-14 Thread Philipp Matthias Hahn
Hi! On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:34:52PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [Goswin von Brederlow] > >> Instead move the things in etc that need writing to other places: > >> > >> 1) link /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts and create a dummy /proc/mounts

Re: Proposal: searchable d.o/security/

2006-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi, > today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if > you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed > something). What kind of search are you trying to do? Package to DSA? Bug to DSA? If so, it would

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:46:44AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > netbase: > critical network configuration. > It has some ancient cruft like /etc/services (which does more ill > than good), but /etc/init.d/networking is not something one wants to > skip. Why do you b

Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1155544521 past the epoch, Marco Bertorello wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:08:19 +0200 > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a real benefit over lynx -dump -head and similar things ? > > It' s more little and easy to use... a little utility. > I must specify this in descriptio

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 8/14/06, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And to some extent, the FSF must claim that it's not possible to escape the GPL with a second implementation (so that programs linking to readline must still be GPLed, even though you could use libedit as a mostly-transparent replacement, for

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-14 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1155469573 past the epoch, martin f krafft wrote: > Why don't those that want to work with QEMU do that, and > those who want to work with VMware worry about its > packaging? > > I can't believe we're having this discussion anyway. It would make sense for each team to keep an eye on what each

Re: search.debian.org

2006-08-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Don Armstrong: > > Assuming there's a box available that can handle it, HyperEstraier is > > pretty easy to set up and configure to do this sort of thing... > > According to what I've heard, it tries to fit the whole database > into memory during inde