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Subject: Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:51:18PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
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Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> No, that's not true; packages that are installed at the beginning of a
> build run are removed at the end. The main difference between pbuilder
> and sbuild is the fact that sbuild uses an existing chroot on which it
> works (or even builds in your "main" system if you h
Hi,
MacBook has a i945 integrated graphic device. To configure, I chose
'intelfb' (not imacfb driver, which seems only to garble the screen
for me) driver for the kernel.
For X, I managed to make a dual-screen setup, so that I can do
presentation on projector and stuff.
Here's my xorg.conf:
#
Hi
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:50:28PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le mer 5 juillet 2006 23:28, Ola Lundqvist a écrit :
> > Hi
> >
> > If this is the case, then I think lintian should be updated to tell
> > people this. It is in fact lintian that have made me do this kind
> > of change for all
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:36:37AM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote:
>
> > I am building a package in which one of the binary has
> > to have the setuid and setgid bits set. I wonder which
> > one of the following two is the more ap
Hi
If this is the case, then I think lintian should be updated to tell
people this. It is in fact lintian that have made me do this kind
of change for all the Arch: all packages that I maintain.
Please CC me as I'm not on this list anymore if you have comments
on my post.
Regards,
// Ola
On T
Le mer 5 juillet 2006 23:28, Ola Lundqvist a écrit :
> Hi
>
> If this is the case, then I think lintian should be updated to tell
> people this. It is in fact lintian that have made me do this kind
> of change for all the Arch: all packages that I maintain.
afaict lintian does shout if you use cdb
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:34:41PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Well, I do not even know what multipath _is_, nor why it is important.
> If that is representative, I suspect the people interested in
> multipath have some work to do to raise the awareness of the problem.
>
> This email is a
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:34:41PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Well, I do not even know what multipath _is_, nor why it is important.
> If that is representative, I suspect the people interested in
> multipath have some work to do to raise the awareness of the problem.
Multipath is for whe
[John Goerzen]
> I'm quite concerned about the poor quality of multipath-tools. This
> is an absolutely vital application for many, required to even get a
> machine to *boot*.
Well, I do not even know what multipath _is_, nor why it is important.
If that is representative, I suspect the people i
John Goerzen wrote:
> Not trying to force you into any one solution or anything, but I'd hate
> for you to have to go to the effort to re-engineer a live CD build
> system if what's out there already would work for you.
Sure.. I appreciate much that you share your experiences, I and Marco
will def
John Goerzen wrote:
> How do you expect your project to be different? I'm just interested in
> avoiding duplicate effort if possible.
wrt/ the package selection/lists, we're heading for a "desktop" one
(more or less what knoppix is; but with both gnome and kde on it), and
some smaller, different
John Goerzen wrote:
> Just checking: are you already aware of Debian From Scratch (DFS), which
> already does this? http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/
yep.
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Hello,
> debian-flash aims to support the free/open source flash community in a
> manner similar to debian-java does for Classpath/GCJ/Kaffe/etc. The
> debian flash email list, alioth project, svn repository and wiki pages
> are now setup, lets get to work!
> free flash community: mainly http://o
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:58:41PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> John Goerzen wrote:
> > How do you expect your project to be different? I'm just interested in
> > avoiding duplicate effort if possible.
>
> wrt/ the package selection/lists, we're heading for a "desktop" one
> (more or less what
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:41:26PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> John Goerzen wrote:
> > Just checking: are you already aware of Debian From Scratch (DFS), which
> > already does this? http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/
>
> yep.
How do you expect your project to be different? I'm just int
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:45:16PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Another aspect is maintenance cost. Auto* tools and docbook toolchain,
> and tex toolchain may break, which means packages no longer
> build. This, I believe, shouldn't really be considered a reason not to
> build-depend; because it
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 09:18:20PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> tony mancill wrote:
> >
> > It seems like it would be quite taxing on the autobuilders to have to pull
> > something like docbook (and its chain of dependencies) into a pbuilder just
> > to recompile a manpage that doesn't chang
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 04:45:21PM -0700, tony mancill wrote:
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> Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or
> >> 2) compile docs in build-time
> >
>
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 03:04:14PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Additionally, it puzzles me how you think a maintainer will be able to
> > accurately predict how much RAM a certain build is going to use. There
> > are so many var
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:51:18PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
>
> Hi all,
>
> at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images:
>
> * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority,
> * and three larger o
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(Is debian-devel the correct list for this?)
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 03:19:08PM +0200, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> If not, then we should probably try it
Can it be limited to suspected spam (e.g. mail with a high smtp-time
spamassassin score)? Others may disagree, but I prefer the small
amount of
also sprach Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.05.1824 +0200]:
> Isn't it already?
Mhh *something* here is broken then.
Sorry.
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On Wed, Jul 05, 2006, martin f krafft wrote:
> Now, about whitelister, would you consider backporting that to
> sarge?
Isn't it already?
whitelister:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version Table:
0.8-2 0
-1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org unstable/main Packages
0.8-0bpo1 0
also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.05.1807 +0200]:
> echo "If your address was forged by a spammer and you received this"
> echo "backscatter bounce, feel free to report it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Very productive and cooperative.
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On Jul 05, Wolfgang Lonien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do we use greylisting on the @debian.org domain and especially on
> @lists.debian.org?
No, we prefer to silently junk messages to mailing lists which appear
to be spam.
The @debian.org addreses have no filtering at all, so I implemented
some
also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.05.1733 +0200]:
> the patches exists, and I already did that. the setup is in production
> on alioth FWIW, thanks to raphael hertzog.
ah! have you submitted them to debian-admin?
> basically, on alioth the greylisting is a selective greyli
Well, I think, we first should think about, what aim this CD or DVD should
be. Which people we want to reach ? In the time, where are so many other
live-cds, like Knoppix, kanotix, Grml, DSL and so on, it is very difficult to
create an "all-in-wonder-"-stuff.
So my thougts are these:
People,
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 09:04:48PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> tony mancill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or
> >>> 2) compile docs in build-time
> >>
Le mer 5 juillet 2006 16:45, martin f krafft a écrit :
> also sprach Wolfgang Lonien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.05.1519
+0200]:
> > Do we use greylisting on the @debian.org domain and especially on
> > @lists.debian.org?
> >
> > If not, then we should probably try it - for my private stuff, that
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also sprach Wolfgang Lonien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.05.1519 +0200]:
> Do we use greylisting on the @debian.org domain and especially on
> @lists.debian.org?
>
> If not, then we should probably try it - for my private stuff, that
> works just nice. The only things which still come through are
At 04 Jul 2006 17:57:29 +0200,
Paul Seelig wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Free Ekanayaka) writes:
>
> > This package contains a collection of drumkits for Hydrogen, a
> > sample based drum machine/step sequencer.
> >
> This is not a single package but actually a collection of various
> packages
> >> 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or
> >> 2) compile docs in build-time
> >
> > Definitely the latter. We build stuff at build time for a reason,
> > architecture-specific or -independent alike.
>
> That depends a bit on the stuff. A lot of maintainers think running
> auto* to generate conf
Well, I think, we first should think about, what aim this CD or DVD should
be. Which people we want to reach ? In the time, where are so many other
live-cds, like Knoppix, kanotix, Grml, DSL and so on, it is very difficult to
create an "all-in-wonder-"-stuff.
So my thougts are these:
People,
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 02:35:44AM -0500, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> Hi!
hi,
> I am having a problem, and I guess I might not be the only one who
> might stumble into it. When one wants to do something in new installs
> of the package, they usually check for $2 != "" in the postinst and pu
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:02:43AM -0400, sean finney wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:39:12PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
>> dpkg-statoverride is a tool for the system administrator to specify a
>> different mode or ownership for a file to that which is provided in the
>> package. It is not me
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 03:25:37PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> | On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:39:12PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> | > dpkg-statoverride is a tool for the system administrator to specify a
> | > different mode or ownership for a file to that which is provided in the
> | > packag
* sean finney
| On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:39:12PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
| > dpkg-statoverride is a tool for the system administrator to specify a
| > different mode or ownership for a file to that which is provided in the
| > package. It is not meant to be used by the package.
|
| there
Hi all,
this is maybe the wrong group for it (sorry in that case), but:
Do we use greylisting on the @debian.org domain and especially on
@lists.debian.org?
If not, then we should probably try it - for my private stuff, that
works just nice. The only things which still come through are spams
whi
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> tony mancill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 07:25:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) compile docs pre-build-time; or
2) compile docs in build-time
>>>
>>> Definitely the latter. We build stuff at
also sprach Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.05.0825 +0200]:
> The copyright link is missing (http://wiki.debian.net/copyright.html)
> but the copyright was broken anyway (see
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWikiIsNotGFDL). What is the copyright
> on the wiki, and where is the correct
also sprach Filipus Klutiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.04.1935 +0200]:
> Bugs that were fixed or are to be fixed (even in unstable)
> shouldn't be tagged wontfix.
They aren't.
> What's the problem with simply marking the bugs as fixed in the right version?
That's what's happening, or should b
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote:
> I am building a package in which one of the binary has
> to have the setuid and setgid bits set. I wonder which
> one of the following two is the more appropriate method
> to use?
It looks like you've got the answer to t
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:39:12PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> dpkg-statoverride is a tool for the system administrator to specify a
> different mode or ownership for a file to that which is provided in the
> package. It is not meant to be used by the package.
there are cases where it's approp
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 02:35:44AM -0500, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> Is my analysis flawed? Is there a way to differentiate between a
> reconfigure and a reinstall that I didn't see? Is there a cleaner
> approach to this problem than dynamically generating the postinst?
take a look at $1 as passed
Hi!
I am having a problem, and I guess I might not be the only one who
might stumble into it. When one wants to do something in new installs
of the package, they usually check for $2 != "" in the postinst and put
the stuff in there. So far, so good, and policy friendly because you
might
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