Bug#351429: ITP: flasm -- command line assembler & disassembler of Flash ActionScript bytecode

2006-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
retitle 351429 ITP: flasm -- command line assembler & disassembler of Flash ActionScript bytecode owner 351429 ! thanks I intend to package flasm for debian. I'll need a sponsor once I have packaged it. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digita

Re: Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

2006-04-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 23 Apr 2006, Miles Bader spake thusly: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I read it. I still think that my answer suffices: Put your >> pipeline in a script, and set that to PAGER. > > Your answer doesn't "suffice," because it's not what people expect > -- PAGER has historically

Re: Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

2006-04-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 23 Apr 2006, Loïc Minier verbalised: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Since allowing pipelines seems to be the motivating factor >> here, we do need to solve that, I think. > > Yes, indeed, the root of the problem is the change of support for > pipelines. However, I'm not sur

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
David Nusinow wrote: > I don't think the target market for tasksel is fundamentally different from > that of the large metapackages like kde or xorg. People make exactly the > same complaints about metapackages. What I'm proposing is that we eliminate > the distinction entirely and just move the ma

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 19:42, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 06:59:41PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > * "Clogging Britney" is subjective. > > Having the metapackage kicked out of testing and having the release team > refuse to help you get it back into the release because you ignored

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 06:59:41PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:57, Joey Hess wrote: > > In the head of this thread, I posted a message listing several problems > > with metapackages. All of these problems may not apply to all > > metapackages at all times, but in sum they all

Re: Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

2006-04-23 Thread Miles Bader
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I read it. I still think that my answer suffices: Put your > pipeline in a script, and set that to PAGER. Your answer doesn't "suffice," because it's not what people expect -- PAGER has historically (for a _long_ time) supported arguments bei

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 07:40:08PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > David Nusinow wrote: > > I think a fundamental problem is that we're seeing is that tasksel hasn't > > generally been sold very well to anyone. I've tried myself to push it > > towards users in #debian, but immediately people hop up and c

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:57, Joey Hess wrote: > In the head of this thread, I posted a message listing several problems > with metapackages. All of these problems may not apply to all > metapackages at all times, but in sum they all apply in general and are > a good reason not to use metapackages f

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
Frans Pop wrote: > IMO that is not really a very nice policy. Wouldn't it be possible to > update the meta packages after each KDE transition has settled down? > > Seems to me that there are not that many KDE releases that could not be > done and it would help the general quality of testing. It

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 April 2006 23:14, Luk Claes wrote: > Note that the KDE meta packages are only really taken care of near a > release because of the transitioning problems... If the meta packages > get to testing earlier it's very probable they will not be installable > for a long time... IMO that is n

Re: bounty for packaging OME

2006-04-23 Thread Charles Plessy
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:46:16AM -0700, kris kvilekval wrote : > We are looking for someone with packaging experience to help package OME > (http://www.openmicroscopy.org/) for debian on a paid basis. > BTW if this is not the correct forum, please let me know. Dear Kris, As far as I know, de

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
Gustavo Franco wrote: > Yes, that's a problem but i would like to see these metapackages only > in sid, see below my purposes... Hmm, my own experience with maintaining a package that never got out of sid is that it's a waste of time.. > > * Their all or nothing nature making it a pain to put th

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
David Nusinow wrote: > I think a fundamental problem is that we're seeing is that tasksel hasn't > generally been sold very well to anyone. I've tried myself to push it > towards users in #debian, but immediately people hop up and cry out that > it's crap, despite my protests. Whether it's ignorant

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Banck wrote: > Can you maybe explain what the current status is for those of us who > haven't installed etch lately and/or ran tasksel? > > IIRC Frans Pop said at FOSDEM that some changes for the desktop task > were implemented since sarge, I don't remember what exactly that was. > E.g., c

Re: Missing firefox source and unofficial debian-amd64 breakage

2006-04-23 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 07:10:44PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > Should I file a bug somewhere about this? Clearly I hit a corner case > that dak doesn't handle quite right. About the empty mail, eh, I see #300599, seems I noticed it before. Amazing how fast time goes though -- guess I really shou

Re: Missing firefox source and unofficial debian-amd64 breakage

2006-04-23 Thread Eric Dorland
* Jeroen van Wolffelaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:57:32PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:49:29PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 02:46:47PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]>

Re: Missing firefox source and unofficial debian-amd64 breakage

2006-04-23 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:57:32PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:49:29PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 02:46:47PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > as some might have noticed the

Re: Missing firefox source and unofficial debian-amd64 breakage

2006-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:49:29PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 02:46:47PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > as some might have noticed the Debian archive is missin

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:57:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > So far this entire thread has managed to be a useless distraction from > the question at hand, which is how to make Debian's desktop task the > best collection of packages it can be. I hope that if Gustavo hasn't > been scared off by the

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:57:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > So far this entire thread has managed to be a useless distraction from > the question at hand, which is how to make Debian's desktop task the > best collection of packages it can be. I hope that if Gustavo hasn't > been scared off by the

Bug#142164: acknowledged by developer (Masters Based on Working Experience Gvna)

2006-04-23 Thread Andrew Donnellan
The bug is still open: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=142164;msg=66 andrew On 4/24/06, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This bug was closed by spam, but it looks like this problem is actually > fixed enough for me, so I'll leave it closed: > > apt-cache show lftp > Mai

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:14:53PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > Note that the KDE meta packages are only really taken care of near a > release because of the transitioning problems... If the meta packages > get to testing earlier it's very probable they will not be installable > for a long time... Th

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 4/23/06, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gustavo Franco blogged: > > In Ubuntu there' s ubuntu-meta source package that results in > > [ubuntu-minimal][1], [ubuntu-standard][2] and [ubuntu-desktop][3]. They're > > metapackages and the list of packages is built with a tool called germinate

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Luk Claes
Joey Hess wrote: > Mike Bird wrote: >> Metapackages are great. Need to add KDE to a system? Wham. Done. >> If you don't like them, don't install them. > > The kde metpackage is a spacial case, since KDE is all one related > thing, that shares a release schedule. And yet it still causes many of

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
Mike Bird wrote: > However, metapackage equivalents of Debian tasks would have much > more reasonable numbers of dependencies - I think "desktop" is > the most complex with 18. In the head of this thread, I posted a message listing several problems with metapackages. All of these problems may not

O: lirc - Linux Infra-red Remote Control support

2006-04-23 Thread Amaya
I am orphaning lirc, it deserves a better maintainer. Please contact me if you are interested. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `- w

Re: Bug#364422: libopenobex1-dev: pkg-config should provide correct include-path

2006-04-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Hendrik Sattler] > Should kdebluetooth fix the include statements or should the > openobex.pc file say that "includedir=${prefix}/include/openobex"? If the API documentation say , then kdebluetooth should use that when including the header. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 12:23, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Hmmm... I'm not an expert but I think it goes like this: > > - metapackage in 'testing' which (unversioned) depends: A and B > (in testing A, version 1, and B, version 1, get along together) > - The maintainers decide that, fo

Re: Missing firefox source and unofficial debian-amd64 breakage

2006-04-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:49:29PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 02:46:47PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > as some might have noticed the Debian archive is missing > > > > /debian/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.

Re: Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

2006-04-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Since allowing pipelines seems to be the motivating factor > here, we do need to solve that, I think. Yes, indeed, the root of the problem is the change of support for pipelines. However, I'm not sure that pipelines worked in the use case

Re: Missing firefox source and unofficial debian-amd64 breakage

2006-04-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 02:46:47PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > as some might have noticed the Debian archive is missing > > /debian/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.2.orig.tar.gz > > The missing file has a sideeffect for the debian-amd64 archive be

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:20:04AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 11:06, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > Ideally, tasksel would be changed to use the dependencies of > > > any meta package WITHOUT installing the meta package. > > > > This doesn't address the issues with testing migrat

Re: Bug#364319: base-files: PS1 setting for *ksh (PROPOSAL: /etc/profile.d/)

2006-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I feel that the current /etc/profile or the future (if that plan is > commenced) /etc/profile does not do any service whatsoever since it > does not improve the situation. > The policy's purpose should not to hinder development but guide it to > sensible d

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 11:06, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Ideally, tasksel would be changed to use the dependencies of > > any meta package WITHOUT installing the meta package. > > This doesn't address the issues with testing migration at all. Maybe I'm a slow learner. How does adding a package wit

Re: Bug#364319: base-files: PS1 setting for *ksh (PROPOSAL: /etc/profile.d/)

2006-04-23 Thread Jari Aalto
| On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Jari Aalto wrote: | | > | Please note that policy says: | > | | > |A program must not depend on environment variables to get reasonable | > |defaults. | > | | > | The way I read this, whatever "good" defaults you think should be in | > | /etc/profile, should be inste

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mike Bird: > Metapackages are great. Need to add KDE to a system? Wham. Done. > If you don't like them, don't install them. The KDE case is different because the dependencies of the kde package are already intertwined. > Ideally, tasksel would be changed to use the dependencies of > any met

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
Mike Bird wrote: > Metapackages are great. Need to add KDE to a system? Wham. Done. > If you don't like them, don't install them. The kde metpackage is a spacial case, since KDE is all one related thing, that shares a release schedule. And yet it still causes many of the problems I mentioned. T

re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 10:18, Joey Hess wrote: > Gustavo Franco blogged: > > In Ubuntu there' s ubuntu-meta source package that results in > > [ubuntu-minimal][1], [ubuntu-standard][2] and [ubuntu-desktop][3]. They're > > metapackages and the list of packages is built with a tool called germinate >

re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
Gustavo Franco blogged: > In Ubuntu there' s ubuntu-meta source package that results in > [ubuntu-minimal][1], [ubuntu-standard][2] and [ubuntu-desktop][3]. They're > metapackages and the list of packages is built with a tool called germinate > based on a seed in the web. I've a [branch of cjwatson

bounty for packaging OME

2006-04-23 Thread kris kvilekval
Hello We are looking for someone with packaging experience to help package OME (http://www.openmicroscopy.org/) for debian on a paid basis. This could be a ont-time or an on-going task depending on the complexity and time involved for maintenance. Please contact Illya at [EMAIL PROTECTED] f

Bug#364445: ITP: weechat-scripts -- Script collection for weechat IRC client

2006-04-23 Thread Julien Louis
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien Louis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: weechat-scripts Upstream Author : Various authors * URL : http://weechat.flashtux.org/plugins.php * License : GPL, public domain Programming Lang: Perl, Python, Lua, Ruby Descript

Bug#142164: acknowledged by developer (Masters Based on Working Experience Gvna)

2006-04-23 Thread Glenn Maynard
This bug was closed by spam, but it looks like this problem is actually fixed enough for me, so I'll leave it closed: apt-cache show lftp Maintainer: Noèl Köthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It still shows UTF-8 when ISO-8859-1 is set, so the original "apt: output ignores locale" bug is really still there,

Re: Bug#364422: libopenobex1-dev: pkg-config should provide correct include-path

2006-04-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, Am Sonntag, 23. April 2006 13:39 schrieb Michael Meskes: > Package: libopenobex1-dev > Version: 1.2-2 > Severity: normal > > Since we couldn't agree on this in private email I think we should try > to get a more public discussion started. Thus this bug report. > > libopenobex1-dev stores its h

Missing firefox source and unofficial debian-amd64 breakage

2006-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, as some might have noticed the Debian archive is missing /debian/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.2.orig.tar.gz The missing file has a sideeffect for the debian-amd64 archive because the sync-script detects an inconsistency and stops. Since it goes alphabeticaly and package after f

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 09:46:08AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I wanted to do that from the very first day of the PTS but Ryan Murray > never agreed to send mails on failed build. He said that many > compilations fail because of a (temporarily) broken buildd and that > it would generate too man

Re: [Help] Versioning of a library

2006-04-23 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Dom, 2006-04-23 às 01:37 +0200, Kurt Roeckx escreveu: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:10:35PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > The currently library seems to be libgtkdatabox-0.2.4.so.7.0.0 > and has an soname of libgtkdatabox-0.2.4.so.7. I guess the the > new one will have something like libgtkdatab

O: sourcenav -- Source code analysis, editor, browser and build tool

2006-04-23 Thread Torsten Werner
retitle 263051 O: sourcenav -- Source code analysis, editor, browser and build tool thanks Hello, I am orphaning the package now but I am willing to sponsor uploads for an experienced maintainer (people that already maintain other packages). Please Cc: your replies to me because I do not read d