Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: > On Apr 21, Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm sure there are people who use both ifrename and udev, and if udev > Which part of "ifrename does not work with udev" you did not understand? Certainly nameif works with udev. Why should I care about missed events for m

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I'd say upload-binary should be sent to the maintainer. It helps seing > when stuff are built and uploaded, [...] Hello, Eh no. I am not interested at all that the gazillion of build-daemons grab my package and upload it to Debian.[1] For me that's ju

Re: libglew1: Newer upstream version is available

2006-04-21 Thread Joost Yervante Damad
On Friday 21 April 2006 23:12, Arnaud Quette wrote: > I'd like to take care of updating it (1.3.4 available) as we're > working, with Christian Marillat, on Jahshaka packaging (ITP #335249) > which requires it. > > If nobody steps up, we'll upload 1.3.4 during the week. An 1.3.4 package is about t

Bug#364082: ITP: python-markdown -- text-to-HTML conversion library/tool

2006-04-21 Thread Fredrik Steen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fredrik Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-markdown Version : 1.4 Upstream Author : Yuri Takhteyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/index.php * License : GPL Pr

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-21 Thread Simon Huggins
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 03:46:36PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Simon Huggins wrote: > > I'll go look at adding the PTS to pkg-xfce now anyway. > Thanks! Except as discussed on IRC in #alioth it sends to the first package affected if many packages are so I've not added this

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:32:21PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 21, Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sure there are people who use both ifrename and udev, and if udev > Which part of "ifrename does not work with udev" you did not understand? Which part of "let the user sho

Work-needing packages report for Apr 21, 2006

2006-04-21 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 294 (new: 10) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 84 (new: 2) Total number of packages request

Re: libglew1: Newer upstream version is available

2006-04-21 Thread Arnaud Quette
I'd like to take care of updating it (1.3.4 available) as we're working, with Christian Marillat, on Jahshaka packaging (ITP #335249) which requires it. If nobody steps up, we'll upload 1.3.4 during the week. Arnaud -- Linux / Unix Expert - MGE UPS SYSTEMS - R&D Dpt Network UPS Tools (NUT) Projec

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 01:43:07AM +0200, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have not noticed yet, the latest udev release by default > automatically generates rules to have persistent names for network > interfaces. > > I am inclined to agree with the bug reporter, but I want to do

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:32:21PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > I'm sure there are people who use both ifrename and udev, and if udev > Which part of "ifrename does not work with udev" you did not understand? The part where both work fine simultaneously on my own machines. -- Met vriendelijke

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure there are people who use both ifrename and udev, and if udev Which part of "ifrename does not work with udev" you did not understand? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:01:53AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russ wrote: > > > In fact, upload notifications (the one that includes the changelog) are > > > not, so far as I can tell, sent to the maintainer by default and I end up > > > subscribing to the PTS to get those

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 01:43:07AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > Besides the fact that ifrename is more of a hack, now that udev enables > > persistent naming of interfaces (z25_persistent-net.rules) udev should > > conflict with ifrename. Otherwise the user could get unexpected results > > if /e

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Jim Crilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An even better idea is, on the upgrade introducing persistent interface > > names, to write rules which reflect the current names no matter what > > configured them. > But won't that miss any devices that aren't in the system right at that > mom

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Crilly
On 04/21/06 10:19:46AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 20, Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Idea: if /etc/iftab is present on upgrade, you can consume it, producing > > relevant rules in that place (and displaying a message to the admin). > An even better idea is, on the upgrade

Re: Installation is FANTASTIC!!!

2006-04-21 Thread Marc Singer
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:14:10AM +0200, Wolfgang Lonien wrote: > And for those who still are complaining about the installer not being > graphical: please, guys, there's more than your x86 machines. Keep that > in mind. And where is the difference between a mouse click and a return > key (yes, it

Re: Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

2006-04-21 Thread James Vega
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:36:10AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Here is my solution for using vim + script as a pager; similar > mechanisms can be used to use plain vim as PAGER as well. > [snip script] There is already a less.sh that does this, which is in the same director

Re: Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

2006-04-21 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi, On Fri, Apr 21, 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Here is my solution for using vim + script as a pager; similar > mechanisms can be used to use plain vim as PAGER as well. Nice, I suggest filing a new bug against vim to propose this as a contrib script, or to ship it as "vim

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Simon Huggins wrote: > Sure the config file was clearer on that than your mail certainly. :-) > Yes this makes more sense now. I must admit I still thought the PTS was > only really a way to get all the bugs for a package. > > Is there a reason that when you subscribe to th

Re: Bug#363250: general: Custom PAGER gives error on sid, but works on sarge

2006-04-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Here is my solution for using vim + script as a pager; similar mechanisms can be used to use plain vim as PAGER as well. , | #!/bin/bash | # Shell script to start Vim with less.vim. | # Read stdin if no arguments were given. | | #VRUNTIME=/usr/share/vim/vim64/ | VRUNTIME=$HOME/e

Bug#364077: ITP: libcrypt-dsa-perl -- DSA Signatures and Key Generation for perl

2006-04-21 Thread Pierre-Matthieu Alamy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Pierre-Matthieu Alamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcrypt-dsa-perl Version : 0.13 Upstream Author : Benjamin Trott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Crypt/ * License : Artistic

Re: AMD64: etch and uploads

2006-04-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 12:17:54PM -0400, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 12:41:50AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> > Developers with amd64 machines are also now able to upload new versions >> > of their package built locally (rather t

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since there is a 1-1 connection between the interface index and the > in-kernel data structure, it is the ideal (and only) identifier udev > should use. Too bad that it is not what the kernel reports in the hotplug events and that there are no s

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 09:23:00PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > This looks like a bug in udev. It should not try to identify devices > > based on names a user can and will change. > I think I missed which alternative design you are proposing. AFAIK the only correct way to identify a network i

Bug#364066: ITP: libdata-buffer-perl -- Read/write buffer class for perl

2006-04-21 Thread Pierre-Matthieu Alamy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Pierre-Matthieu Alamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libdata-buffer-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Benjamin Trott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Data/ * License : Artistic

Re: Marking BTS spam

2006-04-21 Thread Julian Gilbey
Just saw this thread mentioned on DWN. Do you know about "bts reportspam NN" or "bts spamreport NN" in the devscripts package? Might do just what you want :) Julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#364065: ITP: libconvert-pem-perl -- Read/write encrypted ASN.1 PEM files for perl

2006-04-21 Thread Pierre-Matthieu Alamy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Pierre-Matthieu Alamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libconvert-pem-perl Version : 0.07 Upstream Author : Benjamin Trott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Convert/ * License : Artisti

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-21 Thread Simon Huggins
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 08:49:58AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Simon Huggins wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:13:13PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > * All existing packaging projects should use svnmailer to send SVN diffs > > > to the Package Tracking System. A

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was actually why I was asking. :) Does d-i really need to do anything > here, or can it simply depend on the udev postinst to take care of it all in > the chrooted target? No, currently postinst when run in a chroot does as little as pos

Re: locales broken?

2006-04-21 Thread Sam Morris
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:29:09 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Bastian Venthur wrote: >> James Vega wrote: > > [..] > >> So should I file a bug against KDE(M) for not respecting >> /etc/default/locale? > > Known bug [1]. A corresponding bug report for gdm has been filed too > already. > > Cheers,

Re: Installation is FANTASTIC!!!

2006-04-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:14:10AM +0200, Wolfgang Lonien wrote: > Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > How do I bind a computer to an NIS server? > > Use a rope? > > -- Seen on #Debian > > That was a good one! Was it Joey H. or Joey S.? Anyway: thanks for > sharing this with us :-) is Joey Schulz

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:47:45AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 21, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > An even better idea is, on the upgrade introducing persistent interface > > > names, to write rules which reflect the current names no matter what > > > configured them. > > A

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An even better idea is, on the upgrade introducing persistent interface > > names, to write rules which reflect the current names no matter what > > configured them. > And also, I hope, on initial install of udev? Yes, and in d-i too. -- c

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-21 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1145044383 past the epoch, Linas Žvirblis wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Amateur radio is the dumb name, for people who > > are confused by what the practioners call it -- > > HAM radio. > > It is translated as "amateur radio" to some languages. > Others transla

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > KERNEL=="*.*", GOTO="persistent_net_generator_end" > > No visible change. > > There's an error message in the syslog: > > Apr 21 10:05:30 l udevd-event[6705]: rename_net_if: error changing net > interface name eth0.1_ifrename to eth0: ti

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:19:46AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 20, Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Idea: if /etc/iftab is present on upgrade, you can consume it, producing > > relevant rules in that place (and displaying a message to the admin). > An even better idea is, on t

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 20, Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Idea: if /etc/iftab is present on upgrade, you can consume it, producing > relevant rules in that place (and displaying a message to the admin). An even better idea is, on the upgrade introducing persistent interface names, to write rules whic

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: > On Apr 21, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This change also broke the vlan package, which hasn't got to do much >> with interface renaming (from a user perspective). New VLAN >> interfaces are called "eth0.1_ifrename" instead of "eth0.1". > > Interesting, I think

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This change also broke the vlan package, which hasn't got to do much > with interface renaming (from a user perspective). New VLAN > interfaces are called "eth0.1_ifrename" instead of "eth0.1". Interesting, I think this happens because eth0

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: > On Apr 20, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This looks like a bug in udev. It should not try to identify devices >> based on names a user can and will change. > I think I missed which alternative design you are proposing. I'm not familiar with udev, sorry. This

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Adam Borowski: > Idea: if /etc/iftab is present on upgrade, you can consume it, > producing relevant rules in that place (and displaying a message to > the admin). There's also /etc/mactab, which is processed by nameif (from the net-tools package). Ideally, this one should be processed, too.

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Russ wrote: > > In fact, upload notifications (the one that includes the changelog) are > > not, so far as I can tell, sent to the maintainer by default and I end up > > subscribing to the PTS to get those even for packages where I'm the only > > maintainer. I subscribe to debian-devel-changes for