Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:41:03AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:53:39PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > Nobody is lying. A "lie" is an untruth made with the intent to > > deceive. Debian doesn't try to hide these unmodifiable licenses; > > it's been discussed open

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:53:39PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 01:46:14PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> The reason I would do this is the same reason I often get so vocal >> and sometimes angry about these matters: the issue of honesty. I >> feel that the current sit

Re: Bug#352535: ITP: gitmail -- Very simple graphical mail user agent for sending mail (GTK)

2006-02-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>From http://gitmail.sourceforge.net/ : > This piece of software allows to send e-mails to any person > over the net with a fake email address, and also a fake name. Is this a feature, even? I should think all regular MUAs in Debian happily allow

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread Miles Bader
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> However, there is also a dishonest way. That is to leave the Social >> Contract claiming that everything in Debian is free (or "free software", >> doesn't matter) according to the DFSG, but then to go ahead and put >> DFSG-non-free stuff into Debian. A

Re: Bug#352535: ITP: gitmail -- Very simple graphical mail user agent for sending mail (GTK)

2006-02-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 18:08 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > * Package name: gitmail > > Version : 0.4 > > Upstream Author : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * URL

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 01:46:14PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > The reason I would do this is the same reason I often get so vocal and > sometimes angry about these matters: the issue of honesty. I feel that the > current situation is one in which Debian is using its Social Contract to > lie t

Re: Bug#352535: ITP: gitmail -- Very simple graphical mail user agent for sending mail (GTK)

2006-02-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 18:08 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: gitmail > Version : 0.4 > Upstream Author : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gitmail > * Li

Re: Question about GFDL licensed works

2006-02-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:05:57AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 12 février 2006 à 09:22 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > Am I in violation of the License merely by unpacking make or > > by doing an "tla get" on my machine? If I am, why is this free -- I > > can't even

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread paddy
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 01:46:14PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > This belongs somewhere else. Directing followups to -project. > > Glenn Maynard wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:31:43AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > > Incidentally, if I ever become a DD, I will immediately propose a

Re: Question about GFDL licensed works

2006-02-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 12 février 2006 à 09:22 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > Am I in violation of the License merely by unpacking make or > by doing an "tla get" on my machine? If I am, why is this free -- I > can't even unpack the sources " with no Invariant Sections, with no > Front-Cover T

pbuilder, xvfb and nonexisting /tmp/.X11-unix

2006-02-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi, I'm seeking advice on the following problem: - xvfb-run bails out on nonexistant / not root-owned /tmp/.X11-unix, - a/my pbuilder chroot won't have /tmp/.X11-unix, - I need some X (xvfb is fine) to build libaqbanking (glade-2 code generation needs X bug). A working work-around is build-depe

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread Jérôme Marant
Anthony Towns writes: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 01:23:03PM +0100, J??r??me Marant wrote: >> For instance, how does shipping Emacs with verbatim essays from RMS, the GNU >> Manifesto, and any other stuffs like that makes it non-free? Will removing >> them make Debian more free? I doubt anyone is

Re: Bug#352303: ITP: gsynaptics -- configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X

2006-02-12 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:59:42PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:15:17PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:38:03PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > Oops. I think I was careless. > ... > > > It looks like "synclient" is not always used. > >

Re: Editorial changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 11 Feb 2006, Jérôme Marant spake thusly: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On 11 Feb 2006, Jérôme Marant outgrape: >> >>> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >> On 9 Feb 2006, Jérôme Marant spake thusly: >>> The only people it made happy are extremists. >

Bug#352535: ITP: gitmail -- Very simple graphical mail user agent for sending mail (GTK)

2006-02-12 Thread Jari Aalto
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gitmail Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gitmail * License : GPL Description : Very simple graphical mail user

Question about GFDL licensed works

2006-02-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have a machine with multiple user accounts on it. On that machine, I use cryptsetup to encrypt _all_ the partitions and swap, apart from /boot. The machine runs SELinux, to provide and enforce privilege separation, and my working area is labelled user_work_t. Now, I also

Re: Bug#352303: ITP: gsynaptics -- configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X

2006-02-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:15:17PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:38:03PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Oops. I think I was careless. ... > > It looks like "synclient" is not always used. > > Be really careful then! We have to synchronize uploads when the shared >

Re: Editorial changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
2006/2/11, Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There isn't anything to do with politess. If I hurted you, them please > accept my apologies. But I'm frank enough to express my view as I > feel them. As a non-native English speaker, the vocabulary might > not always be appropriate. Hmm, you should

Bug#352506: ITP: treeviewx -- TreeView X displays and prints phylogenetic trees

2006-02-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: treeviewx Version : 0.5.1 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://darwin.zoology.gla.ac.uk/~rpage/treeviewx/ * License : GPL Description : TreeView X disp

Re: Provides: scheme-interpreter

2006-02-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Joe Smith: > http://people.debian.org/~forcer/debian-scheme-policy/debian-scheme-policy.html/ > > Which may be an unofficial policy mandates certain symlinks managed > by alternatives to scheme interpreters based on what they > support. The virtual package names have been accepted by consensus >