Re: Please test new sysvinit, sysv-rc, initscripts

2005-12-17 Thread Graham Wilson
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 01:45:58AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Dec 17, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After installation you should have a tmpfs mounted on /run. > > I do not remember a consensus about this. Changes in Debian are generally decided by package maintainers, not by co

Debian menu entries(was Re: Debian and the desktop)

2005-12-17 Thread Eduardo Silva
As a lurker to debian-devel, I would like to point to all a deficiency in the current KDE way of naming menus, and hope that if Debian menu goes this way, it should improve on it. The current way KDE names programs is: Type of Program (Application name) So, for amarok it's: Audio Player (amarok)

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > Generally, experimental fits the above role. Unstable's for uploading new > development of packages that will hopefully work, but might turn out not > to. In particular, though, they need to be fixed pretty quickly -- six > months in experimental, and another two so far in

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:51:06PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Rather, it seems much more likely that we would want to push such packages >> > *out* of unstable. >> >> Really? So now, unstable

Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team

2005-12-17 Thread Anand Kumria
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:56:30PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd like to congratulate our ftp-master team on their ability to timely > > process packages progressing through the NEW queue. > > > > [1]

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 11:24:39AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > No, that would be "unsuitable for release". Which is a problem that > > should either be fixed quickly, or means you're trying to make a big > > enough change that you should be working out how to get it done without > > breaking oth

Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:30:15AM +, David Pashley wrote: >> 5.5 hours for a package to make it through NEW. I think you owe some >> people an apology. > > -> 8126 T Oct 25 Debian Installe ( 46) xmovie_1.9.13-0_i386.changes is N= > EW >10552

Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team

2005-12-17 Thread Anand Kumria
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:30:15AM +, David Pashley wrote: > On Dec 14, 2005 at 00:25, Anand Kumria praised the llamas by saying: > > I'd like to congratulate our ftp-master team on their ability to timely > > process packages progressing through the NEW queue. > > > >

Re: /run vs /var/run

2005-12-17 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > The principle is the same: /lib is used only for the minimal system required > for booting, and everything else should go in /usr/lib. /run should be used > only for junk that needs to be stored early in the boot sequence, and > everything else should go

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 03:57:35AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Under Linux, can't all of this be done with mount --move anyway? I'm not >> convinced that we actually need a /run any more. > > So you would have these files stored in /var/run from the

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 03:57:35AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The principle is the same: /lib is used only for the minimal system required > > for booting, and everything else should go in /usr/lib. /run should be used > > only for junk that need

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Langasek] > Given the reality of /lib, is there any need for a separate /usr/lib? > > The principle is the same: /lib is used only for the minimal system > required for booting, and everything else should go in /usr/lib. > /run should be used only for junk that needs to be stored early in

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The principle is the same: /lib is used only for the minimal system required > for booting, and everything else should go in /usr/lib. /run should be used > only for junk that needs to be stored early in the boot sequence, and > everything else should g

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 06:09:05PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Thomas Hood] > > After installation you should have a tmpfs mounted on /run. This has > > been created for the use of that handful of packages that need a > > place to store run time state files independently of networking. > Gi

Bug#343830: ITP: toycars -- physics based 2-D racer

2005-12-17 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: toycars Version : 0.2.5 Upstream Author : Ruben Zilibowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : Web Page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/toycars * License : GPL Description :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#343662: fsck errors halting boot after upgrade]

2005-12-17 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Fixing this the right way will require changing when Debian boot scripts run hwclock (as the first very thing), and will require making changes to util-linux, the installer (so that /etc/zoneinfo is not a symlink, and so that the information about what the local timezone is stored somewhere else ot

Re: Access to svn.debian.org

2005-12-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> developer, and I can use it to access the pkg-perl repository on >> svn.debian.org without any trouble. When I became a Debian developer, I >> got a new Alioth ID rra. It's now also been added to the pkg-perl >> repository. But it doesn't work with svn

udev event completion order (was: Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20051214 meeting))

2005-12-17 Thread Darren Salt
[CC'ing hotplug-devel] I demand that Marco d'Itri may or may not have written... > On Dec 17, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It is currently very likely that systems with two network interfaces will >> end up with both switched on the installed system after the reboot. This >> is

Re: Access to svn.debian.org

2005-12-17 Thread Clint Adams
> developer, and I can use it to access the pkg-perl repository on > svn.debian.org without any trouble. When I became a Debian developer, I > got a new Alioth ID rra. It's now also been added to the pkg-perl > repository. But it doesn't work with svn.debian.org. Assuming nothing is wrong, you

Re: Please test new sysvinit, sysv-rc, initscripts

2005-12-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 17, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After installation you should have a tmpfs mounted on /run. I do not remember a consensus about this. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#343827: ITP: zeroc-ice -- ZeroC Internet Communications Engine

2005-12-17 Thread Francisco Moya
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francisco Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: zeroc-ice Version : 3.0.0 Upstream Author : ZeroC, Inc. * URL : http://www.zeroc.com/ * License : GPL Description : ZeroC Internet Communications Engine Ice is a C

Re: xmcd

2005-12-17 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 the mental interface of Matthew Palmer told: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:37:28PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > does one know why xmcd isn't upgraded since 31 of May in 2003? The > > package is neither orphaned nor up for adoption, which I would do > > then. > > Have yo

Re: Curso Interativo HP12C - Função da Máquina GRATIS

2005-12-17 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
English speakers: I am deeply sorry, I have already replied to this one, but forgot to Cc: the person, who is obviously not subscribed. Em Sáb, 2005-12-17 às 20:24 -0200, Hector R.Farias escreveu: > Prezados senhores:Como devo proceder para obter este curso interativo > e obter informações/manual

/run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Thomas Hood] > After installation you should have a tmpfs mounted on /run. This has > been created for the use of that handful of packages that need a > place to store run time state files independently of networking. Given the need, and now the reality, of /run, is there any need for a separat

Access to svn.debian.org

2005-12-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Okay, I'm stymied and I'm not sure where to ask. I had an Alioth ID rra-guest from before I was approved as a Debian developer, and I can use it to access the pkg-perl repository on svn.debian.org without any trouble. When I became a Debian developer, I got a new Alioth ID rra. It's now also bee

Re: Curso Interativo HP12C - Função da Máquina GRATIS

2005-12-17 Thread Hector R.Farias
Prezados senhores:Como devo proceder para obter este curso interativo e obter informações/manual de funcionalidades deste produto? Grato Héctor

Please test new sysvinit, sysv-rc, initscripts

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Hood
A new version of sysvinit (binary packages sysvinit, sysv-rc and initscripts) has just been uploaded to experimental. The reason for sending it to experimental is that a large number of changes were made, thus increasing the probability of errors. And errors in sysvinit can be especially troubl

Re: xmcd

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:37:28PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > does one know why xmcd isn't upgraded since 31 of May in 2003? The > package is neither orphaned nor up for adoption, which I would do > then. Have you asked the maintainer, Adrian Bridgett? He's around (last made an upload les

Your Confirmation Required

2005-12-17 Thread eng
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Re: Checking package builds on hppa/arm/m68k?

2005-12-17 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> "Please (re)check, if the package can be built by g++ > 3.4 > on [hppa/arm/m68k]"? > > Do I simply remove the explicit build dependency on g++, > upload the package and wait if it succeeds (and probably > create another package version with the build dependencies > re-added again if it still fa

Re: Re: I need Wild FX Pro Demo serial key

2005-12-17 Thread Murielle
Can you help me as well please with the serial number to WildFX Pro

xmcd

2005-12-17 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi, does one know why xmcd isn't upgraded since 31 of May in 2003? The package is neither orphaned nor up for adoption, which I would do then. Elimar -- We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. -- Linus Torvalds -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Funny, I just did a Google search for >> site:www.debian.org cvs repository www.debian.org >> and there it was, plain as day. > That implies that you already know/suspect it is in cvs. Goswin, wi

Re: Packaging swftools for Debian

2005-12-17 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 03:21:41PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:36:38AM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:56:29AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 09:24:25AM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote: > > > Did you notice there so

Bug#343734: ITP: libpar-perl -- Perl Archive Toolkit

2005-12-17 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libpar-perl Version : 0.90 Upstream Author : Autrijus Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/PAR/ * License : Perl: GPL/Artistic Des

Bug#343729: ITP: libjingle -- components to interoperate with Google Talk's P2P and voice calling capabilities

2005-12-17 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [B * Package name: libjingle Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Google Inc. * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/libjingle/ * License : BSD Description : components to interoperate w

Re: urgency='low' testing propogation only 5 days for gtk+2.0?

2005-12-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Kurt Roeckx [Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:03:50 +0100]: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 06:10:11PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: > > It is my understanding that an urgency='low' upload defines a 10 day > > delay in testing propogation, unless overridden by hints. > > However, yesterday's gtk+2.0 upload indicati

Bug#343719: ITP: libimdb-film-perl -- Perl extension for retrieving movie info from IMDB.com

2005-12-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libimdb-film-perl Version : 0.17 Upstream Author : Mikhail Stepanov (stepanov.michael (at) gmail.com) * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~stepanov/IMDB-Film-0.17/lib/IMDB/Film.pm * Li

ALSA packager needed

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Hood
First, thanks to those who responded to my earlier call. In addition to people knowledgeable about the ALSA userspace library I would like to find someone willing to help maintain the driver side. ALSA drivers are included in Linux 2.6, but we still ship an alsa-source package for use with Linux

Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team

2005-12-17 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > I explicitely said that stripping it > anyway will make the whole pondering on whether it can be in the > (source) package at all moot for the question whether mpeg encoding > would be legal to ship on ftp.debian.org. To the best of my knowledge, > mpeg encoding stuff

Re: Packaging swftools for Debian

2005-12-17 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:36:38AM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:56:29AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 09:24:25AM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote: >>> Are there any obvious reasons why swftools can't/shouldn't be >>> packaged for Debian? >> Nobody h

Re: display-dhammapada

2005-12-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 04:44:28PM +0100, Jakub Nadolny wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to the list and would like to ask you what can I do in > following subject. > There is a package called 'display-dhammapada'. It has not been updated > since few years. But there is new version of this software since

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:51:06PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rather, it seems much more likely that we would want to push such packages > > *out* of unstable. > > Really? So now, unstable should be maintained in a releasable state > *too*?

Re: Checking package builds on hppa/arm/m68k?

2005-12-17 Thread Andreas Metzler
Andreas Fester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > what is the proper way to > "Please (re)check, if the package can be built by g++ > 3.4 > on [hppa/arm/m68k]"? > Do I simply remove the explicit build dependency on g++, > upload the package and wait if it succeeds (and probably > create another p

Re: Packaging swftools for Debian

2005-12-17 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:56:29AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 09:24:25AM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote: > > > I was wondering, if anybody has been working on getting swftools > > (http://www.swftools.org/) into Debian? > > Apparently, not recently. > > > There seems to

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20051214 meeting)

2005-12-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 17, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is currently very likely that systems with two network interfaces > will end up with both switched on the installed system after the > reboot. This is of course a blocker. > > The discussion showed that sticking with discover while udev

Checking package builds on hppa/arm/m68k?

2005-12-17 Thread Andreas Fester
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, what is the proper way to "Please (re)check, if the package can be built by g++ > 3.4 on [hppa/arm/m68k]"? Do I simply remove the explicit build dependency on g++, upload the package and wait if it succeeds (and probably create another package