Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:24:04PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Several distros include non-free software, as long as it's > >> distributable. > > Debian's one of them -- we just clearly separate out the non-free > > stuff from the free stuff. > I am coming to the conclusion thst we

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:13:51 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 10:21:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > But instead, what I'm led to wonder is if this is really standing up > for our beliefs and fighting the good fight, or actually just trying > to avoid those issues. Bec

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:28:41 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 07:26:55PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: >> > Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: >> > The conferences I usually publish at always demand an all-out >> > copy

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:36:36 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 05:28:04PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:30:52 -0600 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:46:24 +1000, Anthony Towns >> > said: >> > > I don't believe I've seen anyone deba

Re: New version of kernel-package to create image packages using debconf

2005-11-12 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > I'm totally for a -dbg kernel package with an unstripped kernel for > OProfile, as I use it quite frequently. > > I wanted to use OProfile and get kernel stacks on Ubuntu Breezy, so > ended up recompiling the standard kernel for vmlinux. To be useful I > needed to turn on DEBUG_INFO and DE

Re: Closing bugs bevore the upload is available

2005-11-12 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > > AFAIK apt-listbugs only displays open bugs, if the bug is closed > > > then it won't get displayed. > > > > It will be displayed even when it's closed. It does have some > > heuristics to avoid showing irrelevant bugs. > > > > > > > Ideally apt-listbugs needs to be updated to suppor

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I think the best reason to ask or require contributors to licenses their papers in a DFSG form is so that Debian can distribute the papers as part of Debian. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 05:28:04PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:30:52 -0600 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:46:24 +1000, Anthony Towns > > said: > > > I don't believe I've seen anyone debate my use of the (aiui) > > > non-DFSG-free CC ShareAlike/Attrib

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 07:26:55PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: > > The conferences I usually publish at always demand an all-out > > copyright _transfer_. However, in practice they will usually accept a

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 10:21:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Because sometimes one feels the need to fight for what is > right? Even if people feel far more comfortable with just sweeping > stuff under the carpet, and not brought out in the open? You know, I was going to say somet

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:39:52 +0100, Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Scripsit Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:45:35 +0100 Henning Makholm wrote: >>> The conferences I usually publish at always demand an all-out >>> copyright _transfer_. However, in practic

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:45:35 +0100 Henning Makholm wrote: >> The conferences I usually publish at always demand an all-out >> copyright _transfer_. However, in practice they will usually accept a >> non-exclusive license to print and distribute unmodif

Bug#338808: ITP: dtv -- a GTK+ based RSS video aggregator

2005-11-12 Thread Uwe Hermann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dtv Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Participatory Culture <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://participatoryculture.org/ * License : GPL Description : a GTK+ based RSS vi

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:45:35 +0100 Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: [...] > The conferences I usually publish at always demand an all-out > copyright _transfer_. However, in practice they will usually accept a > non-e

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:36:39 +0100, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > do we limit personal freedom of speakers in favour of our own, when > we prescribe a license? debconf is about exchange of ideas (among > others). will we only permit ideas from people that already share > out vie

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:12:18 +0100, David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Saturday 12 November 2005 05:09, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> To be more specific: I don't believe that the fact that software >> >> A is being packaged with Debians tools is a derived work of said >> >> tools, >>

Re: Resignation and uploads

2005-11-12 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:09:22 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Oh, and here's something else to ponder: Maybe, just maybe, James has >more time to go to Ubuntu below zero than he has to handle keyring >updates because he prioritizes by what gets the bills paid. As most of >us do, I

Re: New iproute in unstable

2005-11-12 Thread Alexander Wirt
Alexander Wirt schrieb am Samstag, den 12. November 2005: Uhm its too late... The subject is of course misleading, it has been uploaded to experimental. Alex signature.asc Description: Digital signature

New iproute in unstable

2005-11-12 Thread Alexander Wirt
Hi folks, its a long long time ago that iproute2 got an upstream update. I took over the package from Andreas and decided to try a new upstream version. As I don't want to break other peoples networking it has been uploaded to experimental. I would be very happy if some people would give iproute-

Re: keyTouch package

2005-11-12 Thread Christoph Haas
On Saturday 12 November 2005 19:28, Marvin Raaijmakers wrote: > Is there a volunteer to create a package for keyTouch 2? > Website: http://keytouch.sf.net Please file an RFP (request for package). That's the best way to find a packager. Documentation at: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ Chris

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-11-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 02:16:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > And while dash is also optional, all *correctly* written /bin/sh >> > scripts should work with dash too. >> >> That's incorrec

Bug#338784: ITP: openrpt -- SQL report writer

2005-11-12 Thread Michael Meskes
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: openrpt Version : 1.1.1beta Upstream Author : Chris Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ned Lilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pierce Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL

keyTouch package

2005-11-12 Thread Marvin Raaijmakers
Is there a volunteer to create a package for keyTouch 2? Website: http://keytouch.sf.net (I don't know if this is the right mailing list for asking this) - Marvin Raaijmakers

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-12 Thread David Schmitt
On Saturday 12 November 2005 05:09, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> To be more specific: I don't believe that the fact that software A > >> is being packaged with Debians tools is a derived work of said > >> tools, > > Hmm. What about software bits of the package (maintainer > scripts, added

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 12 novembre 2005 à 02:29 +0100, Pierre THIERRY a écrit : > And I see a rationale for allowing them: what prevents a DD to upload > binaries that include exploits or some trojan code, along with a clean > source? It was already suggested to accept only source+binary uploads, but to rebuil

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 11 novembre 2005 à 23:19 +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo a écrit : > Sorry, Joss, but I can't believe disk space can be a problem nowadays. > Of course you can be short of disk space, but a 160GB HDD is quite > affordable, and you can cache Debian lot of times there. I can't believe I

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:30:52 -0600 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:46:24 +1000, Anthony Towns > said: [...] > > I don't believe I've seen anyone debate my use of the (aiui) > > non-DFSG-free CC ShareAlike/Attrib clause on my debbugs paper this > > year. I did it, last july on d

Re: Accepted lynx 2.8.5-2sarge1 (source powerpc)

2005-11-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:10:08AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Format: 1.7 > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 09:23:11 +0200 > Source: lynx > Binary: lynx > Architecture: source powerpc > Version: 2.8.5-2sarge1 > Distribution: stable-security > Urgency:

Re: Resignation and orphan list

2005-11-12 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/11/05, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Considering that James' reluctance to do the work he has volunteered > to do is a recurring issue in the Debian project, and that this issue > has not yet been addressed by the new DPL who was elected in the hope > that he would try solving some

Re: Licenses for DebConf6 [was: Re: DebConf6: Call For Papers]

2005-11-12 Thread Andreas Schuldei
sorry for replying to this only today. i had been busy preparing for a talk i was giving yesterday at a conf. * Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-10 01:08:49]: > > given your knowledge level of how debconf intents to handle > > things and the way you escalate this issue gives me the ide

Re: eidviewer menu entry

2005-11-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 08:54:38AM -0500, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 06:33:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > >>So, wouldn't they be in the same catagory as pgp or openct thingy? > > > >I could do that, except that none of the binaries in opensc, ope

Re: eidviewer menu entry

2005-11-12 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 06:33:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:44:50AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: [eidviewer menu category] These things are about user identity and authentication for possibly bank transactions or login like cryptog

Re: eidviewer menu entry

2005-11-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 06:33:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:44:50AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: [eidviewer menu category] > These things are about user identity and authentication for possibly > bank transactions or login like cryptographics tokes, no? Well, yes and

Re: Resignation and uploads

2005-11-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:09:22PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > You're not the only person requesting key updates, and there's a queue. > Probably because there've been issues of higher importance (such as > upgrading project machines from Woody to Sarge, or making sure the SPARC > and ARM build

Re: Shall Debian's su conform to other implementations

2005-11-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Besides, depends/pre-depends and conflicts should be more than enough if > > done right. > > Yes, this is what is meant by supporting partial upgrades. "Supporting Ah, ok. THAT is what I meant too, in a roundabout way. So we're in agreement. > pa

Re: Resignation and orphan list

2005-11-12 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:38:11 -0600, Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 03:23:08PM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote: >> Branden Robinson, the DPL, is aware of this organizational failure. But he >> has done nothing effective to repair it. He has suggested that an

Re: eidviewer menu entry

2005-11-12 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:44:50AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi, > > > The next upload (which is in NEW already) adds libeid and the eidviewer; > the former allows a programmer to read out identity information and > pictures from the card; the latter provides a GUI to interactively view >

Re: testing migration: wtf?

2005-11-12 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 04:30:59PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 08:58:35PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> What is happening with testing migration of my package, sork-passwd? >> The various "testing migration" pages seem to be all confused: >> - http://qa.debian.org

eidviewer menu entry

2005-11-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, Maintaining the belpic package, I recently found out that they hid their license somewhere else. Since I hadn't found their license document previously, I didn't package what I thought was being distributed without a license; however, now that I found out that they do have a license, and that

Re: Shall Debian's su conform to other implementations

2005-11-12 Thread Christian Perrier
> > New shadow would conflict with ALL packages that do not support the new > > syntax > > Unfortunately, yes; and we saw plenty of occasions in woody->sarge where > conflicts with old packages made the upgrade path more difficult than it > should have been... Up to now, we have identified pbui

Re: Shall Debian's su conform to other implementations

2005-11-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 10:04:47AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Whatever you choose to do, you need to take care of partial upgrade. > Not across released stable versions! Since when do we support > stable/stable+1 mixed systems? Since

Re: Closing bugs bevore the upload is available

2005-11-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 09:43:26AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > >> Today I did a update of the system (yes, sid and yes I know > > >> it can be unstable but...) and the update includes grep where > > >> no open critical bug was seen. After Boot the syste