Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Joey Hess
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > ia64 turns out to be confusing too; it's Itanium but the main 64-bit > architecture on PCs is now amd64. Intel calls this EM64T. The > debian-amd64 list gets occasional queries about trying to install the > ia64 distribution on amd64 machines. Can you complete the line of r

Re: apt-proxy

2005-11-06 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Brian May may or may not have written... [snip] > > Without apt-proxy, I can't build packages with pbuilder, because it can't > download the required files, which means I can't rebuild my package for > sarge in order to see if it fixes a bug I encountered while testing another > pie

apt-proxy

2005-11-06 Thread Brian May
Hello, Simple question: is apt-proxy still being maintained? Based on the growing list of bugs, I suspect not. A quick glance of some of the reports shows no sign of response from the maintainer. Some users in fact have completely given up. A recent bug I have discovered makes it unusable. Ho

Re: ncpfs_2.2.6-2_mipsel: FTBFS: internal compiler error: Floating point exception

2005-11-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:01:26AM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > >Package: ncpfs > >Severity: serious > >Version: 2.2.6-2 > >Tags: sid > >Justification: fails to build from source > > > >There was an error while trying to autobuild your package: > > > >Aut

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:35:51AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > I think we should at least consider to rename, since the current i386 seems > to cause a lot of confusion. When even DDs confuse the meaning how can we > expect the user to understand? Who is confused? > Most people know instanta

Re: UTF-8 for debian/control

2005-11-06 Thread Roger Leigh
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Roland Stigge [Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:41:21 +0100]: > >> when feeding the data from the Sources file into a script that >> implicitly checks for UTF-8 consistency (a Python lib), the following >> packages happen to include byte sequences that are no valid

Re: ncpfs_2.2.6-2_mipsel: FTBFS: internal compiler error: Floating point exception

2005-11-06 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:01:26AM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: >Package: ncpfs >Severity: serious >Version: 2.2.6-2 >Tags: sid >Justification: fails to build from source > >There was an error while trying to autobuild your package: > >Automatic build of ncpfs_2.2.6-2 on rem by sbuild/mips

Re: UTF-8 for debian/control

2005-11-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 11:41:21PM +0100, Roland Stigge wrote: > > Time for reviewing > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00521.html and a > statement in Policy about that (for consistency with changelogs that are > already handled that way)? UTF-8 is only recommended in the changel

Re: UTF-8 for debian/control

2005-11-06 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Roland Stigge [Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:41:21 +0100]: > Hi, > when feeding the data from the Sources file into a script that > implicitly checks for UTF-8 consistency (a Python lib), the following > packages happen to include byte sequences that are no valid UTF-8: > cadubi > fcmp > glade-perl > my

UTF-8 for debian/control

2005-11-06 Thread Roland Stigge
Hi, when feeding the data from the Sources file into a script that implicitly checks for UTF-8 consistency (a Python lib), the following packages happen to include byte sequences that are no valid UTF-8: cadubi fcmp glade-perl myspell-sv rat all of them have another encoding in the Maintainer fi

Shall Debian's su conform to other implementations

2005-11-06 Thread Nicolas François
Hi, In #276419, the bug submitter complained that when a command and some arguments were passed to su, all these arguments were concatenated, and provided to the shell -c option. This behavior differs from su on other systems [0]. This also forbid to pass arguments to the shell [1]. As these beh

Bug#337842: ITP: pygmy -- PyGTK client for the Music Player Daemon (MPD)

2005-11-06 Thread Decklin Foster
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Decklin Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pygmy Version : 0.45+svn60 Upstream Author : Andrew Conkling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pygmy.berlios.de/ * License : GPL Description : PyGTK client for the

Re: real-i386

2005-11-06 Thread Bastian Venthur
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Bastian Venthur: > >>> We know what steps it takes ot resupport i386. What kind of work would >>> be needed to rename i386 to x86 or ia32? >> >> I think we should at least consider to rename, > > Oh, come on, it's just a name which is mostly used by Debian's > infrastru

Re: real-i386

2005-11-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastian Venthur: >> We know what steps it takes ot resupport i386. What kind of work would >> be needed to rename i386 to x86 or ia32? > > I think we should at least consider to rename, Oh, come on, it's just a name which is mostly used by Debian's infrastructure, and not by end users. Changin

Re: real-i386

2005-11-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Kurt Roeckx: >> Companies *do* make them, though. They are *tiny*, low-power & >> *cheap*. The 386SX is perfect for the embedded market. > > Intel still sells 386 DX, SX and others: > http://www.intel.com/design/intarch/intel386/index.htm Still doesn't warrant supporting them, though. 8-) -

Bug#337828: ITP: libjogl-java -- Java bindings for OpenGL

2005-11-06 Thread Wolfgang Baer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Wolfgang Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libjogl-java Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : various * URL : https://jogl.dev.java.net/ * License : BSD Description : Java bindings for OpenGL JOGL provides full ac

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Ken Bloom
Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Nov 06, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>So I'll ask again. What would be the process for rename i386 to x86 or ia32? > > Complex enough that it will never happen, so please do not waste more > time over this. Thanks for the answer. Now everyone else can drop

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 06, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'll ask again. What would be the process for rename i386 to x86 or ia32? Complex enough that it will never happen, so please do not waste more time over this. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Ken Bloom
Bastian Venthur wrote: > Ken Bloom wrote: > > >>Bastian Venthur wrote: >> >>>Nick Jacobs wrote: >>> >>> >>> In-Reply-To=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You mean, it's seriously been proposed that a significant amount of work should be done to restore support for a processor that has not

Re: Help needed: People willing to help co-maintain debian accessibility packages

2005-11-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, It's been a long time since you asked for help, and apparently not many people showed up. Although I don't have any hardware synthesizer, I might help for packaging speakup and the debian installer. BTW, The current status of kernel-image-speakup-i386 is not good: it isn't in etch because of

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 881-1] New OpenSSL 0.9.6 packages fix cryptographic weakness

2005-11-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:29:33PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze): > > > oldstable (woody) stable (sarge) unstable (sid) > > openssl 0.9.6c-2.woody.8 0.9.7e-3sarge1 0.9.8-3 > > openssl 094 0.9.4-6.woody

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread W. Borgert
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:10:05PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > I am a little bit confused. Does Via/C3 need strict 386-instructions > or does it play nicely with the current status, i.e. 486 instruction > set? A standard sarge install works perfectly on my brand-new VIA C3. Cheers, WB -- T

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Henning Glawe
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:10:05PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Andrew M.A. Cater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > Up until the change in GCC which effectively > > changed Debian compatibility to 486 processors and above, Debian > > supported the 386 processor. There was a lot of talking o

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 881-1] New OpenSSL 0.9.6 packages fix cryptographic weakness

2005-11-06 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze): > -- > Debian Security Advisory DSA 881-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze > November 4th, 2005

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
Andrew M.A. Cater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Up until the change in GCC which effectively > changed Debian compatibility to 486 processors and above, Debian > supported the 386 processor. There was a lot of talking on the lists > at the time and it was agreed that this was a bad situation a

Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005-11-06 Thread Jochen Voss
Hi Ryan, On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:38:43PM -0800, Ryan Murray wrote: > Also, I've investigated the mail backlog on master and found the main > problem. The mail queue is currently full of email that will never be > able to be delivered, all for one particular user. Why would that be? Could y

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:35:51AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > I think we should at least consider to rename, since the current i386 seems > to cause a lot of confusion. When even DDs confuse the meaning how can we > expect the user to understand? > > Most people know instantanously what

Re: Transition time: KDE, JACK, arts, sablotron, unixodbc, net-snmp, php, ...

2005-11-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:13:25AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 04:20:45AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Second, thanks to some enhancements Ryan Murray has recently made to > > buildd/wanna-build, it is now possible for the release team to > > request automated bu

Re: real-i386 (was Re: i386 requalification for etch)

2005-11-06 Thread Bastian Venthur
Ken Bloom wrote: > Bastian Venthur wrote: >> Nick Jacobs wrote: >> >> >>>In-Reply-To=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>>You mean, it's seriously been proposed that a >>>significant amount of work should be done to restore >>>support for a processor that has not been manufactured >>>for 10 years? While s