Announcing kernel-handbook project

2005-09-09 Thread Jurij Smakov
[This message is cross-posted to multiple mailing lists for announcement purposes only. Please edit the address list before replying! Suggested address for followups is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, In an attempt to improve the situation with Debian kernel documentation I have recently initiated t

Re: Bug#327425: ITP: gaim-slashexec -- adds functionality to execute commands from within a Gaim conversation

2005-09-09 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 09:24:20PM -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: Sorry, missed a field. Also used wrong email (annoyed at reportbug for not honoring $DEBEMAIL) Err, it does? Hamish See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=324341 . It now won

Re: Bug#327425: ITP: gaim-slashexec -- adds functionality to execute commands from within a Gaim conversation

2005-09-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 09:24:20PM -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > Sorry, missed a field. Also used wrong email (annoyed at reportbug for > not honoring > $DEBEMAIL) Err, it does? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: Bug#327425: ITP: gaim-slashexec -- adds functionality to execute commands from within a Gaim conversation

2005-09-09 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 08:47:34PM -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Package name: gaim-slashexec > Version : x.y.z ^ > Upstream Author : Gary Kramlich <[EMAIL

Re: Bug#327425: ITP: gaim-slashexec -- adds functionality to execute commands from within a Gaim conversation

2005-09-09 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
owner 327425 ! thanks Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: gaim-slashexec Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Gary Kramlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Lawler

Bug#327425: ITP: gaim-slashexec -- adds functionality to execute commands from within a Gaim conversation

2005-09-09 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: gaim-slashexec Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Gary Kramlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Lawler Daniel 'datallah' Atallah URL :

Processed: Re: Bug#327417: general: Since yesterdays testing upgrade pam authentication via mysql isn't working anymore.

2005-09-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 327417 glibc Bug#327417: general: Since yesterdays testing upgrade pam authentication via mysql isn't working anymore. Bug reassigned from package `general' to `glibc'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assista

Bug#327417: general: Since yesterdays testing upgrade pam authentication via mysql isn't working anymore.

2005-09-09 Thread Steve Langasek
reassign 327417 glibc thanks On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 01:28:16AM +0200, Thomas Becker wrote: > Package: general > Severity: important > The error message is: > Sep 10 00:02:45 localhost saslauthd[738]: PAM unable to > dlopen(/lib/security/pam_mysql.so) > Sep 10 00:02:45 localhost saslauthd[738]:

Bug#327417: general: Since yesterdays testing upgrade pam authentication via mysql isn't working anymore.

2005-09-09 Thread Thomas Becker
Package: general Severity: important The error message is: Sep 10 00:02:45 localhost saslauthd[738]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_mysql.so) Sep 10 00:02:45 localhost saslauthd[738]: PAM [dlerror: /lib/tls/libm.so.6: symbol _rtld_global_ro, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: >> What's the point in us worrying about licenses granting freedoms that >> can't actually be exercised in life? There is no "freedom not to be >> sued", so it's impossible for a license to contravene that. > > There are the DFSG f

Re: announcing the beginning of security support for testing

2005-09-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 9/9/05, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing > etch/security-updates main contrib non-free > > deb-src > http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing > etch/security-updates main contrib non-free > > Could I replace 'etch

Re: announcing the beginning of security support for testing

2005-09-09 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On 9/9/05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Security support for testingThe Debian testing security team is pleased to announce the beginning of full security support for Debian's testing distribution. This is great news, and thank you! [...] We also invite you to add the following lines to

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 21:57, Matthew Garrett wrote: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 09 September 2005 21:03, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> Oh, bollocks. The social contract is with the free software community, > >> not just the users. Arguing that the rights of the use

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 10:24:19PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 02:30:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > 9. MISCELLANEOUS. > > > Any law or regulation which provides that the language of a contract > > shall be construed against the drafter shall not apply to

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 05:35:36PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 09 September 2005 18:24, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> But that's already possible. The majority (all?) of licenses that we > >> ship don't prevent me from being sued arbitrarily

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Michael Poole
Matthew Garrett writes: > Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As you point out elsewhere, total fabrications can be invented to >> support any claim, but DFSG freedom questions should be limited to >> what the license imposes on or requires from users. > > What's the point in us worrying a

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > >> My insurance optionally covers employment disputes, accidents and >> housing issues. I don't have any cover that protects me from arbitrary >> legal cases. In any case, "Discriminates against poor people who have an >> insuran

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 09 September 2005 21:03, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Oh, bollocks. The social contract is with the free software community, >> not just the users. Arguing that the rights of the user are the only >> ones that matter suggests that the GPL ought to

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> You're ignoring the cost of paying for any sort of legal advice, which >> isn't very realistic. > > No I'm not. When the case is trule meritless there is usually no > reason to involve a lawyer (*unless* o

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Michael Poole
Matthew Garrett writes: > A use fee imposes a cost where no cost would otherwise exist. For a big > evil corporation, the difference in cost between suing me in the UK and > suing me in the US is sufficiently small that they're unlikely to worry > greatly about the amount. Even without a choice of

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 21:03, Matthew Garrett wrote: --cut-- > > That wouldn't make your argument more coherent. We're concerned > > exclusively with which rights the *user* gets. Whether the author > > thinks it is worth it to give the user those rights is not something > > we consider at all

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> In the case you're worrying about (obnoxious large businesses suing >>> people in order to intimidate them), the difference in cost is >>> unlikely to deter

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 21:10, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matthew Garrett writes: > >> The licensor *already* has carte blanche to harrass licensees with > >> fivolous lawsuits. The only thing that changes are the costs. > > > > This seems remarkably s

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: >> The licensor *already* has carte blanche to harrass licensees with >> fivolous lawsuits. The only thing that changes are the costs. > > This seems remarkably similar to the argument "The user has carte > blanche to exercise DFSG

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> In the case you're worrying about (obnoxious large businesses suing >> people in order to intimidate them), the difference in cost is >> unlikely to deter them. > > The point is that the cost *for me* of d

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Michael Poole
Matthew Garrett writes: > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Without the licensors, there is no commons. Without an ability to >>> enforce licenses, the concept of copyleft becomes pointless. >> >> You seem to assert that licenses cannot

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I don't think it makes any difference. You just open new holes I'm arguing >> against. Why you need to put that baseless challenges on user's souls ? > The presence or absence of a choice of venue clause does not alter the > fact that the licensor

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> The licensor *already* has carte blanche to harrass licensees with >>> fivolous lawsuits. >> No - if the court throws out the case ex officio because of la

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Michael Poole
Matthew Garrett writes: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Friday 09 September 2005 18:24, Matthew Garrett wrote: >>> But that's already possible. The majority (all?) of licenses that we >>> ship don't prevent me from being sued arbitrarily. The only difference >>> that choice of ve

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
> The DFSG are not holy writ, but how about if I phrase it as > discrimination against licensors without money? DFSG #5: "No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons." This implies, at least to me, that the _licensor_ is not

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 09 September 2005 19:35, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> That's choice of law, rather than choice of venue. I was under the >> impression that it was generally accepted. > > I mean the venue designates the jurisdiction where a lawsuit process is held

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> The licensor *already* has carte blanche to harrass licensees with >> fivolous lawsuits. > > No - if the court throws out the case ex officio because of lack of > jurisdiction, no harassment results. Eh?

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 9/9/05, Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear > >> at the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" > >> can be meaningfully described as a

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 19:35, Matthew Garrett wrote: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 09 September 2005 18:24, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> But that's already possible. The majority (all?) of licenses that we > >> ship don't prevent me from being sued arbitrarily. The o

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I wonder, let's say you are going to be judged in some random US court, even > if it is with German laws, you still would fall into common US-practice legal > or something such ? Court procedures always go by the local law of the forum. -- Henning Mak

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Without the licensors, there is no commons. Without an ability to >>> enforce licenses, the concept of copyleft becomes pointless. >> You seem to assert th

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 05:35:36PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 09 September 2005 18:24, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> But that's already possible. The majority (all?) of licenses that we > >> ship don't prevent me from being sued arbitrarily

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Without the licensors, there is no commons. Without an ability to >> enforce licenses, the concept of copyleft becomes pointless. > > You seem to assert that licenses cannot be enforces unless the > licens

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 09 September 2005 18:24, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> But that's already possible. The majority (all?) of licenses that we >> ship don't prevent me from being sued arbitrarily. The only difference >> that choice of venue makes is that it potentiall

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 18:24, Matthew Garrett wrote: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 09 September 2005 17:35, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> Whereas the alternative may be that licensors are unable to afford the > >> enforcement of their license. Would you prefer to disc

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 18:41, MJ Ray wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > > I am refusing them as long as you cannot clearly show how DFSG#5 forbids > > some restrictions present in the CDDL. > > It does not work this way. If you believe that a questionable > license is free, the

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Yorick Cool
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 03:35:20PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: Matthew> The legal system discriminates in favour of rich people. That's true Matthew> regardless of license conditions. Although I don' dispute this assertion per se, the problem at hand is that *geography* necessarily discriminate

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 03:41:58PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > > I am refusing them as long as you cannot clearly show how DFSG#5 forbids > > some restrictions present in the CDDL. > > It does not work this way. If you believe that a questionable > license is f

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But that's already possible. The majority (all?) of licenses that we > ship don't prevent me from being sued arbitrarily. The majority (all!) of license we ship do not demand that you agree *in advance* to waive your usual protections against arbitra

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Free Software is about the licensors (copyright owners) relinquishing some >> of their rights to assure the rights of the "commons". > Without the licensors, there is no commons. Without an abili

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 09 September 2005 17:35, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Whereas the alternative may be that licensors are unable to afford the >> enforcement of their license. Would you prefer to discriminate against >> them? > > Debian has always been full of soft

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Free Software is about the licensors (copyright owners) relinquishing some > of their rights to assure the rights of the "commons". Without the licensors, there is no commons. Without an ability to enforce licenses, the concept of copyleft bec

Re: Bug#254248: What are the differences between cdebootstrap and debootstrap?

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I was a bit surprised to see a bug like 254248 being tagged as won't > fix. There are other strange wontfix tags for cdebootstrap, including a handful of quite reasonably looking translation updates. Significantly, all of those wontfix tags were added

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 17:35, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear > >> at the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" > >> can be meaningfully described a

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
> Whereas the alternative may be that licensors are unable to afford the > enforcement of their license. Would you prefer to discriminate against > them? YES. Please. The DFSG #5 says you should not discriminate the licensee; the licensor is OK. Debian does, in an active basis, discriminate agains

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Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear >> at the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" >> can be meaningfully described as a "group of persons" that can be >> discriminated against. If ev

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Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 15:46, Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 07:23:10AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Henning Makholm writes: > > > I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear > > > at the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" >

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
> I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear > at the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" > can be meaningfully described as a "group of persons" that can be > discriminated against. If everybody belongs to the group, is it > meaningfull to dis

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 07:23:10AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Henning Makholm writes: > > I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear at > > the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" can be > > meaningfully described as a "group of persons" that

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Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread John Hasler
Henning Makholm writes: > I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear at > the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" can be > meaningfully described as a "group of persons" that can be discriminated > against. Why do you think that a copyright ow

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 02:30:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > 9. MISCELLANEOUS. > Any law or regulation which provides that the language of a contract > shall be construed against the drafter shall not apply to this License. Can a license exclude application of laws? Maybe there's a juri

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 01:56:50PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Henning Makholm writes: >>> I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear >>> at the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" >>> can be m

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm writes: >> I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear >> at the the author's home court whenever he files a frivolous lawsuit" >> can be meaningfully described as a "group of persons" that can be >> discrimina

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Michael Poole
Henning Makholm writes: > Scripsit Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Well, I'm explaining that it isn't free because of DFSG#5. However, it >> seems that you are refusing such arguments de facto. > > I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear > at the the author

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2005-09-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 9/9/05, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Eh, bump, please? > > http://net-tools.berlios.de > Planned: new release 1.65 which contains all the debian patches. Use of some > netdev features. Great, but when?

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Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:46:04AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It does not work this way. If you believe that a license is not free > > > it's up to you explaining why. > > Well, I'm explaining that it isn't free because of DFSG#5. Ho

Bug#326429: Info received (was Bug#326429: ITP: webcheck -- website link and structure checker)

2005-09-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It does not work this way. If you believe that a license is not free > > it's up to you explaining why. > Well, I'm explaining that it isn't free because of DFSG#5. However, it > seems that you are refusing such arguments de facto. I am re

Re: Bug#326429: ITP: webcheck -- website link and structure checker

2005-09-09 Thread Arthur de Jong
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 00:47 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Arthur de Jong] > > I'm not sure if I need some statement on the copyrights on the > > generated html files. The css file that is just copied has a BSD > > license. > > Generally, output from a program is not considered to be copyrighted

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, I'm explaining that it isn't free because of DFSG#5. However, it > seems that you are refusing such arguments de facto. I doubt that "people who do not wish to become legally bound to appear at the the author's home court whenever he files a f

Re: snmpkit stuck in unstable ?

2005-09-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* A Mennucc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050909 10:01]: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:12:15AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > Looks like its entire chain is ready, so now you need a "hint". Ask > > debian-release to do this: > the page on excuses was speaking of an "hint"... > what is it ? > choice 1)

Re: snmpkit stuck in unstable ?

2005-09-09 Thread A Mennucc
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:12:15AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Looks like its entire chain is ready, so now you need a "hint". Ask > debian-release to do this: the page on excuses was speaking of an "hint"... what is it ? choice 1) a plain english email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] choice 2) a proc

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 09 September 2005 01:41, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is nothing wrong with this, and I'm not a fan of choice of venue > > > clauses either, but they should try to modify the DFSG then. > > > > Could you explain why DFSG#5 couldn

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | The Covered Code is a "commercial item," as that term is defined in > | 48 C.F.R. 2.101 (Oct. 1995), consisting of "commercial computer > | software" and "commercial computer software documentation," as such > | terms are used in 48 C.F.R. 12.212 (Se

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:13:57PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > I wrote: >> >> In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of the copyright >> >> owner. >> > >> > Thomas Bushnell writes:

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2005-09-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/11/05, Olaf van der Spek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/11/05, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > > Just one more question: what happened to my original emails? > > > > I read them. Most likely I saved the wr

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 09 septembre 2005 à 00:41 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On Sep 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There is nothing wrong with this, and I'm not a fan of choice of venue > > > clauses either, but they should try to modify the DFSG then. > > Could you explain why D