Re: pbuilder status update

2005-08-20 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > Same here. With two sponsors, I doubt you'll have much of a latency trouble > > with your uploads :-) I'm looking for someone to upload the following packages canna_3.7p3-2_i386.changes: translation updates d-shlibs_0.26_i386.changes: error checking fix gamix_1.99.p14.debian1-3_i386.chan

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 02:02:10AM +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > * Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-20 19:42:16 -0400]: >> of QIII I'd be willing to bet that no less than 3 better upstreams exist >> already. After all Q2 has quakeforge, so I'd find it hard to belive nobody > The sourc

Re: Mindterm

2005-08-20 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 06:15:45PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > >> Proxies and firewalling is not in my experience a huge trouble in >> these environments; the general non-availablity of any other >> software

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 03:17:35PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > like a foundation already: a bad release manager chose a pyramidal > model. That's the beginnings of a good inductive argument. Then we > add the other foundation he gives: here's a bunch of well-managed > projects, which use

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Peter Samuelson: > [Romain Francoise] >> Perhaps not. These days RCS isn't really used as a revision control >> system but as a component in a variety of applications: some are >> related to revision control, some are not (wiki engines, etc). We >> don't keep it solely for interoperability. >

Bug#324214: ITP: ttf-khmeros -- free khmer font from the KhmerOS project

2005-08-20 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ttf-khmeros * Version : 3.00-2005 * Upstream Author : Danh Hong/Open Forum of Cambodia * URL : http://www.khmeros.info/drupal/?q=en/download/fonts * License : To be clarified with

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Tristan Seligmann
* Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-20 19:42:16 -0400]: > of QIII I'd be willing to bet that no less than 3 better upstreams exist > already. After all Q2 has quakeforge, so I'd find it hard to belive nobody The source code was only released in the last 24 hours or so; I find it highly unl

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 07:42:16PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > > >Wait, if a reliable upstream wrt timely security fixes is > >a recommendation or requirement, we might have to get of a *fair* > >share of the archive... and that's not only the unmaintained > >software! > > Well i meant both securit

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Joe Smith
Wait, if a reliable upstream wrt timely security fixes is a recommendation or requirement, we might have to get of a *fair* share of the archive... and that's not only the unmaintained software! Well i meant both security and other updates. In the case where no better upstream exists, it is a

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pretty much every sentence. I didn't want to go through because it's > rather offtopic here, but as you're requesting it: So you disagree with his arguments. That does not warrant your abusive language, or your incorrect claim that his arguments a

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 02:26:26PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It's completely unfounded bullshit. > > Do you have a specific complaint? Or is every single sentence in that > post "unfounded bullshit"? Pretty much every sentence. I

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 08:57:06PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Christoph Hellwig: >> >> >> Greg Hudson contributes an interesting viewpoint: >> >> >> >> >> > >> > It's completely unfoun

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 08:57:06PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Christoph Hellwig: > > >> Greg Hudson contributes an interesting viewpoint: > >> > >> > > > > It's completely unfounded bullshit. Whether you prefer a pyramid > > or lots

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's completely unfounded bullshit. Do you have a specific complaint? Or is every single sentence in that post "unfounded bullshit"? > Whether you prefer a pyramid or lots of commiters style organization > is pretty much a personal or rather com

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Norbert Tretkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Luciano Bello wrote: >> I really think that OpenCVS must be part of Debian. > > Agreed. However, if it has interoperability problems (and they more or less promise it will), then it must have a different command-line name. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:31:38PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> > > most popular open source revision control software. >> > >> > And among the most horrible ones. >> > >> Agreed. Why anyone would bother to reimplement an alrea

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.20.2213 +0200]: > Also you need to have a more reliable upstream. ID is not suitable as they > will not release security updates, fixes, etc in a timely manner.I would > very strongy advise against5 being the upstream yourself. Wait, if a relia

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Joe Smith
Also you need to have a more reliable upstream. ID is not suitable as they will not release security updates, fixes, etc in a timely manner.I would very strongy advise against5 being the upstream yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Joe Smith
"Bastian Venthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: quake3 Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : ID-Software * URL : http://www.idsoftware.com/ * License

Re: Work-needing packages report for Aug 19, 2005

2005-08-20 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Henning Makholm wrote: > Do we have other ways to provide its functionality? I sometimes need > to log into my machine from net cafes, and even SSH1 is preferable to > telnet. :-/ javassh [1] could be a free replacement, but I couldn't tell by their current website and it looks like it needs a new

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Roland Mas
Florian Weimer, 2005-08-20 20:50:12 +0200 : > * Roland Mas: > >> The Berkeley DB storage backend was an enormously stupid thing, >> but that's been fixed (phew). [...] > I'm storing hundreds of millions of rows in Berkeley DB tables and > have yet to encounter data loss because of bugs in Berkel

Re: Work-needing packages report for Aug 19, 2005

2005-08-20 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Roberto C. Sanchez > On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [mindterm] > > Do we have other ways to provide its functionality? I sometimes need > > to log into my machine from net cafes, and even SSH1 is preferable to > > telnet. :-/ > Anyterm will be packaged

Re: Work-needing packages report for Aug 19, 2005

2005-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Henning Makholm wrote: Do we have other ways to provide its functionality? I sometimes need to log into my machine from net cafes, and even SSH1 is preferable to telnet. :-/ Theres Java Telnet Applet (package: jta) which despite its name does ssh as well as telnet. It's

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.20.2016 +0200]: > This is the GPL'ed version of id's famous first person shooter quake3. Bye bye productivity. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :p

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.20.2100 +0200]: > arch-pqm still requires that people publish their own repositories. Yeah, that it still a problem which resources like arch.debian.org should deal with, a little better at least. I can't find the link now, but I've also hear

Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Bastian Venthur
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: quake3 Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : ID-Software * URL : http://www.idsoftware.com/ * License : GPL Description : a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* martin f. krafft: > also sprach Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.2146 +0200]: >> The list is somewhat outdated, and it doesn't reflect some things >> I've learnt since I wrote that pamphlet. > > If I find the time, I will contribute my comments to help get the > page up to date. Fe

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Christoph Hellwig: >> Greg Hudson contributes an interesting viewpoint: >> >> > > It's completely unfounded bullshit. Whether you prefer a pyramid > or lots of commiters style organization is pretty much a personal > or rather community

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roland Mas: > The Berkeley DB storage backend was an enormously stupid thing, but > that's been fixed (phew). Keep in mind that Berkeley DB is a limtus test, both for developers and system administrators. Those who don't read manuals fail it. I'm storing hundreds of millions of rows in Berk

Re: Work-needing packages report for Aug 19, 2005

2005-08-20 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:25:07AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>mindterm (#323802), orphaned today > >> Description: java ssh client that can be used as a web

Re: Mindterm

2005-08-20 Thread Radu Spineanu
Hello Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Sure, and one time passwords for either case is even better. > Even though it's not production ready yet, i wrote a PAM module that generates a password, encrypts it using SSL(RSA) or PGP (asymmetric keys) and then sends it to a mobile phone or PDA u

Re: Mindterm

2005-08-20 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 06:15:45PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Proxies and firewalling is not in my experience a huge trouble in > these environments; the general non-availablity of any other software > than IE (with JVM and various scripting languages) on netcafe/library > computers is. > > I

Mindterm

2005-08-20 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [on dropping mindterm] >> Do we have other ways to provide its functionality? I sometimes need >> to log into my machine from net cafes, and even SSH1 is preferable to >>

Re: Work-needing packages report for Aug 19, 2005

2005-08-20 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > Do we have other ways to provide its functionality? I sometimes need > to log into my machine from net cafes, and even SSH1 is preferable to > telnet. :-/ Sure, run your SSH server listening to port 443, and use putty from a tru

Re: Work-needing packages report for Aug 19, 2005

2005-08-20 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:25:07AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>mindterm (#323802), orphaned today >> Description: java ssh client that can be used as a web applet > Can we just have this removed? It is ancient (the new versions a

Re: Dogme05: Team Maintenance

2005-08-20 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Thaddeus H. Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm wrote: >> It is already the case that "flatly refusing to give away the package >> or even allow co-maintenance" *should* not happen at all and, if it >> does happen, *should* not prevent the package from eventually being >> given

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-20 Thread Roland Mas
Peter Samuelson, 2005-08-20 13:50:10 +0200 : > And we don't have multiple implementations of it in Debian, either. > That is the *real* point. Of course, we don't have multiple implementations of a minimal shell aiming at POSIX compliance. Or an X server. Or a light, fast yet configurable windo

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-20 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Romain Francoise] > Perhaps not. These days RCS isn't really used as a revision control > system but as a component in a variety of applications: some are > related to revision control, some are not (wiki engines, etc). We > don't keep it solely for interoperability. And we don't have multiple

Re: arch, svn, cvs

2005-08-20 Thread Christoph Hellwig
> Greg Hudson contributes an interesting viewpoint: > > It's completely unfounded bullshit. Whether you prefer a pyramid or lots of commiters style organization is pretty much a personal or rather community organizational issue. Both have

Re: Work-needing packages report for Aug 19, 2005

2005-08-20 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Roberto, On Friday, 19 Aug 2005, you wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:25:07AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The following packages have been orphaned: > > >mindterm (#323802), orphaned today > > Description: java ssh client that can be used as a web applet > > > > > C