Re: experimental bugs preventing testing transition?

On 10/08/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 08:15:13PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > > #320980: tetex-bin: Updmap error because a map file has not been found > > Package: tetex-bin (tetex-bin 3.0-5.0.sarge1); Severity: serious; Reported > > by... > > > > but 3.0-

Bug#322282: ITP: swapspace -- Dynamic swap space manager

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Anibal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: swapspace Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : Jeroen Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://thaiopensource.org/development/swapspace/ * License : GPLv2 Descri

Bug#322282: ITP: quodlibet-plugins -- various contributed plugins for Quod Libet

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Anibal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: swapspace Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : Jeroen Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://thaiopensource.org/development/swapspace/ * License : GPLv2 Descri

Swap space manager

Hello, I've written a dynamic swap space manager for GNU/Linux in the vein of swapd and dynswapd--but in many ways better. We felt this was helpful in a Debian-based system distribution for SMEs that we are releasing, where we don't want to bother the sysadmin with unnecessary choices during inst

Bug#322266: ITP: quodlibet-plugins -- various contributed plugins for Quod Libet

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joshua Kwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: quodlibet-plugins Version : 20050809 (subject to change, of course) Upstream Author : Various (see below) * URL : https://svn.sacredchao.net/svn/quodlibet/trunk/plugins * L

Re: not starting daemons at boot: ln -s disabled

On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 12:15:29PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Dan Jacobson writes: > > But the downsize is later, unless one keeps records, one isn't quite sure > > of just what tampering one has done in /etc/rc?.d/ > > Sysvconfig keeps records. Sweet. Now I get a Red Hat-like service command as

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

For the record, bug #318098 is related to the gcc transition - the packages that will get removed if jackd is installed are most of kde. A new kde could not be uploaded to change the dependency to the new libjack0.100.0-0 because of the chain of dependencies that had to make the gcc transition

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 07:28:07PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > repeat: note that I am not complaining about c++ abi changes etc., > that can't be avoided, I think. I was specifically talking about > _unneccessary_ problems that get weeks to fix for unknown reasons like > jackd bug #318098 (per

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 07:08:55PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 04:23:55PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > >> well, sometime bugs get all the way to stable, no software is without > >>bugs. What I was talking about is that 'unstable' is pretty much only

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 07:17:50PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > well, what is experimental for then? And what would you offer to > desktop users? Packages that you *know* aren't ready to be shipped. For example, I plan to put Xorg pre-release packages in experimental for people. These will conta

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

Josh Metzler wrote: On Tuesday 09 August 2005 06:56 pm, Erik Steffl wrote: well, the fixes take forever to get to testing That is because they need to go through testing and bug fixes in unstable. well, what does it matter? The bugs take forevr to fix so testing is not really usable...

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

Arjan Oosting wrote: Op di, 09-08-2005 te 16:23 -0700, schreef Erik Steffl: BTW I think it makes a lot of sense to use experimental for most of the initial testing That is wat unstable is for. well, what is experimental for then? And what would you offer to desktop users? and only r

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 04:23:55PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: well, sometime bugs get all the way to stable, no software is without bugs. What I was talking about is that 'unstable' is pretty much only usable desktop Clearly not, or you wouldn't find it necessary to co

Re: controlling spam via mail interface?

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 08:06:29PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:47:18PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > > > And yes, I expect that all messages reported will need to be manually > > reviewed to avoid deleting good mails from the archive. > > It would be c

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tuesday 09 August 2005 06:56 pm, Erik Steffl wrote: >well, the fixes take forever to get to testing That is because they need to go through testing and bug fixes in unstable. >so while testing seems like a good idea in general it doesn't seem to > be very appealing in its current incar

Re: Bug#322151: ITP: tablix -- high school timetable generator

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:02:17PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: > * Package name: tablix > Version : 0.1.2 > Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * URL : http://www.tablix.org > * License : GPLv2 > * Description : high school timetable generator > > tablix u

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

Op di, 09-08-2005 te 16:23 -0700, schreef Erik Steffl: >BTW I think it makes a lot of sense to use experimental for most of > the initial testing That is wat unstable is for. > and only release to unstable when it looks like the > package is a release candidate. That is testing, it should b

Re: fakeroot: line 152: 7689 Segmentation fault

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 12:48:17AM +0200, Tomas Fasth wrote: > I noticed the following problem with the build daemon on the hppa > architecture: > dpkg-source: extracting sqlite3 in sqlite3-3.2.2 > dpkg-buildpackage: source package is sqlite3 > dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 3.2.2-3 > dpkg-b

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 04:23:55PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > well, sometime bugs get all the way to stable, no software is without > bugs. What I was talking about is that 'unstable' is pretty much only > usable desktop Clearly not, or you wouldn't find it necessary to complain about the fac

Re: curl reverts to openssl (but the story does not ends here)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:31:22PM +0200, Daniel Stenberg wrote: > On Aug 9 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: > (I'm not on the list, I read this response elsewhere and I handicraft this > reply) > >> Even when libcurl works identically good using either library, OpenSSL > >and > GnuTLS differ not on

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

David Nusinow wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:45:16PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:28:58AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: Where would you like us to do our work? This is exactly what unstable is *for*. It lets us break things while they're in development in order to pus

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:56:21PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > errr... where would YOU like to work? In intentionally broken > unstable becuase "it's just unstable"? You surprise me. We need to work somewhere. We don't intentionally break unstable for no good reason. > >*for*. It lets us break

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:45:16PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:28:58AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:01:16AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > > mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in > > > unstable for significant period

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

David Nusinow wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:01:16AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental more appropriate for stuff like this? Same for udev (

Re: fakeroot: line 152: 7689 Segmentation fault

Scripsit Tomas Fasth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture hppa > /usr/bin/fakeroot debian/rules clean > /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 152: 7689 Segmentation fault > FAKEROOTKEY=$FAKEROOTKEY LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$PATHS" LD_PRELOAD="$LIB" "$@" > Is this a known problem? > Does it requ

Re: fakeroot: line 152: 7689 Segmentation fault

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 12:48:17AM +0200, Tomas Fasth wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello > > I noticed the following problem with the build daemon on the hppa > architecture: > > dpkg-source: extracting sqlite3 in sqlite3-3.2.2 > dpkg-buildpackage: source package

Re: experimental bugs preventing testing transition?

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 08:15:13PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > #320980: tetex-bin: Updmap error because a map file has not been found > Package: tetex-bin (tetex-bin 3.0-5.0.sarge1); Severity: serious; Reported > by... > > but 3.0-5 is in experimental (3.0-5.0.sarge1 is a binary-only-backport I

Re: Removing packages from testing (FAQ)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:14:20PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > I find the list of packages hinted for removal useful > and highly interesting, exactly as you have formatted > it. Frank, would you keep the script that did the job, > and publish similar lists as appropriate on debian-devel > o

fakeroot: line 152: 7689 Segmentation fault

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello I noticed the following problem with the build daemon on the hppa architecture: dpkg-source: extracting sqlite3 in sqlite3-3.2.2 dpkg-buildpackage: source package is sqlite3 dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 3.2.2-3 dpkg-buildpackage: host a

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

[Eldon Koyle] > Maybe I'm missing something? I suspect you are. Are you aware of http://secure-testing.alioth.debian.org/>? If you see through http://dc5video.debian.net/2005-07-12/08-Securing_the_Testing_Distribution-Joey_Hess.mpeg>, you will hear more about it. The status of testing might be

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

Nigel Jones wrote: On 09/08/05, Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental more appropriate for stuff like this? Same for udev (requiring li

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On 8/9/05, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This doesn't really work that way in reality, because you're just pushing > things up yet another level. At some point non-developers will use > experimental the way they use unstable now. I think the only real solution to this is to allow mult

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:45:16PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:28:58AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > > Where would you like us to do our work? This is exactly what unstable is > > *for*. It lets us break things while they're in development in order to > > push the distro

Re: curl reverts to openssl (but the story does not ends here)

On Aug 9 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: (I'm not on the list, I read this response elsewhere and I handicraft this reply) > Even when libcurl works identically good using either library, OpenSSL and > GnuTLS differ not only license-wise but they also have features of their > own and bugs of the

Bug#322225: ITP: kde-icons-nuovext -- nuoveXT icon theme for KDE

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kde-icons-nuovext Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Alexandre Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : * License : GPL Description : nuoveXT ic

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:28:58AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:01:16AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in > > unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed > > 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Aug 09 21:54+1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > On 09/08/05, Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in > > unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed > > 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental more appropriate for stuff like

experimental bugs preventing testing transition?

Hi, I don't know whether this has been discussed before (and I only had a short look at the list archive), and I'm currently not subscribed, so please Cc me on any flames ;-). If you ask on http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=tetex-bin why tetex-bin isn't in testing yet, one of the rea

Re: problem in ftp master ?

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 12:24:17PM -0300, Jose Carlos do Nascimento wrote: > Hi,, all > > look http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/maintainer.php?name=kronolith2 > > > uvscan3.pl are missing, > > how can solve it ? > I think it is a pr

problem in ftp master ?

Hi,, all look http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/maintainer.php?name=kronolith2 uvscan3.pl are missing, how can solve it ? [] Jose Carlos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: Removing packages from testing (FAQ)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:14:20PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > I find the list of packages hinted for removal useful > and highly interesting, exactly as you have formatted > it. Frank, would you keep the script that did the job, > and publish similar lists as appropriate on debian-devel > o

Re: Removing packages from testing (FAQ)

I find the list of packages hinted for removal useful and highly interesting, exactly as you have formatted it. Frank, would you keep the script that did the job, and publish similar lists as appropriate on debian-devel or debian-devel-announce in the future? This would be appreciated, at least b

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:01:16AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in > unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed > 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental more appropriate for stuff like this? > Same for udev (requiring linux

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

Nigel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 09/08/05, Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in >> unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed >> 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental more appropriate for stuff like thi

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

Joey Hess wrote: > Radu Spineanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >fprobe-ng >fprobe-ulog >xmail Since everybody is providing feedback... I will prepare new packages tommorow and ask my sponsors to upload them. Radu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Bug#322161: ITP: kde-icons-crystalclear -- Everaldo's "Crystal Clear" icon theme for KDE

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kde-icons-crystalclear Version : 0.0.20050623 Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.everaldo.com/crystal * License : LGPL Description : Eve

Re: python's gettext.gettext broken, use gettext.lgettext

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 12:06:48 -0500, Joe Wreschnig uttered > No, it doesn't return UTF-8, it returns unicode objects. They're > automatically recoded when you try to print them (based on the same > function lgettext uses, locale.getpreferredencoding()). As Steve said, > unicode objects are basically

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:46:20 -0400, Joey Hess uttered >xringd Fixed package in unstable as of a few days ago. Cheers, -- Steve C offers you enough rope to hang yourself. C++ offers a fully equipped firing squad, a last cigarette and a blindfold.

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2005-08-02 18:46 -0400]: > I intend to eventually file bugs on packages in Debian which depend on > debconf without an alternate of debconf-2.0, as all of these make it > impossible to install cdebconf, which we would eventually like to > replace debconf. [...]

Bug#322151: ITP: tablix -- high school timetable generator

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robert Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: tablix Version : 0.1.2 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.tablix.org * License : GPLv2 * Description : high school timetable generator tablix uses

Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On 09/08/05, Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in > unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed > 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental more appropriate for stuff like this? > Same for udev (requiring linux kernel 2.6

status of jackd? (bug #318098)

yes it's unstable but still, what's the status of jackd? Currently it's pretty much uninstallable (i.e. lot of packages would have to be removed to install jackd). Considering that jackd is required (or at least very useful for) by almost all major audio apps this is fairly bad - any ideas wh