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Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-03 Thread Horms
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 03:07:23AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Junichi Uekawa writes: > > Hi, > > > > > This week, we will change the GCC default versions from 3.3 to 4.0 > > > > Would it break kernel 2.4 builds somehow ? > > No, you can still build using gcc-3.3. I have added this as a buil

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Martijn van Oosterhout] > To be honest, I think it would be far more useful to timestamp each > entry so you can simply expire old ones. Last access time, it'd have to be, not create time. Meaning, every time ssh runs, it rewrites .ssh_known_hosts (and not just appends to it). Which implies lo

Re: Debian 3.1r0 CD/DVD image problem

2005-07-03 Thread Terry Hancock
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Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-03 Thread Otavio Salvador
Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Junichi Uekawa wrote: >> Hi, >> >> > This week, we will change the GCC default versions from 3.3 to 4.0 >> >> Would it break kernel 2.4 builds somehow ? >> I've not been quite following; but the thread almost a month ago >> seems to indicate thus: >> h

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2005-07-03 Thread Ivan Raikov
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Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-03 Thread Matthias Klose
Junichi Uekawa writes: > Hi, > > > This week, we will change the GCC default versions from 3.3 to 4.0 > > Would it break kernel 2.4 builds somehow ? No, you can still build using gcc-3.3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PR

Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > > This week, we will change the GCC default versions from 3.3 to 4.0 > > Would it break kernel 2.4 builds somehow ? > I've not been quite following; but the thread almost a month ago > seems to indicate thus: > http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kernel-traffic/kt20050701

Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > This week, we will change the GCC default versions from 3.3 to 4.0 Would it break kernel 2.4 builds somehow ? I've not been quite following; but the thread almost a month ago seems to indicate thus: http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kernel-traffic/kt20050701_316.html#7 regards, junichi

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
On Jul 2, 2005, at 19:40, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 7/2/05, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the rationale for changing the default setting? I find it very annoying, and from a brief discussion on #debian- devel I see that I'm not alone. What causes this annoyance? It

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 18:36 +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > One case I can think of is where you regularly ssh into a machine with > a dynamic IP address. Maybe with or without a dyndns name. Depending > on the size of the ISP and how often the address changes the > known_hosts files could

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2005-07-03 Thread Dave Mauroni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dave Mauroni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: clamtk Version : 2.02 Upstream Author : Dave Mauroni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://clamtk.sourceforge.net * License : Artistic Description : A GUI frontend for C

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Colin Watson: > That's true. You can add them by hand without hashing the host name (and > use 'ssh-keygen -H' afterwards if you like); known_hosts may contain a > mix of hashed and unhashed host names. > > Is this a feature you would use often? It might be practical for those of us who copy SS

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 12:20:47AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:42:40PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > There is also the quite important point that even the most stupid of the > > > attackers could just lo

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 12:20:47AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:42:40PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > There is also the quite important point that even the most stupid of the > > attackers could just look at ~/.bash_profile instead and get all or most > > of the

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Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > One case I can think of is where you regularly ssh into a machine with > a dynamic IP address. Maybe with or without a dyndns name. Depending > on the size of the ISP and how often the address changes the > known_hosts files could increase without bound. I don't bel

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-07-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 05:17:18PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 à 18:41 -0500, Adam Heath a écrit : > > > > I agree. A java policy should talk about how java packages should > > > > interact > > > > once installed.

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
2005/7/3, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:28:15PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > That's true, and unavoidable in this scheme; but the use case (beyond > > > fastidiousness) for this is not clear to me. > > > > Well, h

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:08:38AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Colin Watson: > > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 09:04:18PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> There should be tools supporting this, I agree. > > > > There is such a tool, which I mentioned in the changelog: > > > > - ssh and ssh-keys

GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-03 Thread Matthias Klose
This week, we will change the GCC default versions from 3.3 to 4.0 (for g77 and gpc to 3.4, these are not supported in 4.0) on all architectures. The GCC-4.0 version used is taken from the GCC 4.0 branch (something that will likely become the 4.0.1 release candidate 3). The switch to 4.0 (instead t

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 05:16:08PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:52:07PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > The only time I've ever removed entries from > > known_hosts is when I know that a specific host's key has changed, and > > 'ssh-keygen -R' deals with that just fine. >

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 04:57:58PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:21:51PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > `Depends' > > This declares an absolute dependency. A package will not be > > configured unless all of the packages listed in its `Depends' > > fi

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:52:07PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > The only time I've ever removed entries from > known_hosts is when I know that a specific host's key has changed, and > 'ssh-keygen -R' deals with that just fine. That options seems to be undocumented. It's not in the man page or the

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-07-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:21:51PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > Dear Debian developers, > > Following a post to Debian-Devel-Announce, I would like to > discuss getting rid of circular dependencies. > > Why ? > - > 1) The semantic of Depends specified by Debian policy 7.2. does not a

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:28:15PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > That's true, and unavoidable in this scheme; but the use case (beyond > > fastidiousness) for this is not clear to me. > > Well, how do you audit the files and purge stale entries. Tha

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > That's true, and unavoidable in this scheme; but the use case (beyond > fastidiousness) for this is not clear to me. Well, how do you audit the files and purge stale entries. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 12:17:13AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:19:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > (BTW, would you mind fixing #284874? It's six months old and should be > > trivial...) > > Sorry I haven't got round to this yet. The reason I haven't done it is > that

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 02:16:08AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 03, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then I'm afraid you simply haven't read the documentation ... > > I did. But I cannot remove entries if I do not know the hostname. That's true, and unavoidable in this scheme; b

Re: HashKnownHosts

2005-07-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Colin Watson: > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 09:04:18PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Wouter Verhelst: >> > Some of us actually do care what is listed in that file, and edit it >> > from time to time. Hashing those names makes that much harder >> >> There should be tools supporting this, I agree

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Debian Mirror Problem

2005-07-03 Thread Johann Glaser
Hi! For a few weeks there are discrepancies between some "Packages" files and the files in the ./pool/ directory. Unfortunately the debian-mirrors list is dead since the end of 2003. Therefore I try to ask this list, if you know anything about this discrepancy, if you can point me where I should a

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-07-03 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/3/05, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 05:35:09PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > > On 7/2/05, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:43:04PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > These are two very different cases, th

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-07-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 05:35:09PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > On 7/2/05, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:43:04PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > > > These are two very different cases, though. If a local admin installs a > > > new root cert, that's