[VAC] June 26-July 2

2005-06-26 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)
Hi, I am at Bratislava, Slovakia at the specified time. Anyone is there for a meet, keysign or anything, I am open for it. I can be reached by SMS (english or hungarian please) +36-20-4441745 Regards, Laszlo/GCS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Eric Dorland
* Andrew M.A. Cater ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 01:59:09AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 08:59:22AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > In any case, since you're the maintainer of the package, the decision is > > > ultimately yours -- see the Debi

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Eric Dorland
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 02:48:19AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > [...] > > So, I don't feel I can accept the agreement offered by the Mozilla > > Foundation, because of my objections to it and because I don't feel > > empowered to make an agreement like

[VAC] June 26-July 2

2005-06-26 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)
Hi, I am at Bratislava, Slovakia at the specified time. Anyone is there for a meet, keysign or anything, I am open for it. I can be reached by SMS (english or hungarian please) +36-20-4441745 Regards, Laszlo/GCS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Eric Dorland
* Gervase Markham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Eric Dorland wrote: > >The thread is petering out > > Only because there's only one of me, and I'm too busy to deal with the > volume! It's currently ten to midnight and I just got back from speaking > at a conference in Wolverhampton. The volume

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Eric Dorland
* Shachar Shemesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I am not a lawyer. > > I am a consultant trying to understand the world he lives in, and as > such, studied the applicable law a little. > > Eric Dorland wrote: > > >So, I don't feel I can accept the agreement offered by the Mozilla > >Foundation,

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Eric Dorland
* Gervase Markham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Eric Dorland wrote: > >* Gervase Markham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >>Debian already has rights that their users don't have, the most > >>prominent among them being to label a Linux distribution as "Debian" (or > >>"official Debian", or whatever it

Re: [Debian Printing] Formation of a Printing Group

2005-06-26 Thread Kenshi Muto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roger, At Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:11:22 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > This mail is just to test the water to see if there is any interest in > forming a printing group for coordination between all of the various > printing packages. Due to the numerous

Announcing a new book: The Debian System -- Concepts and Techniques

2005-06-26 Thread martin f krafft
Dear all, I am pleased to announce the availability of my new (English) book "The Debian System", which Open Source Press[0] introduced at the Linuxtag 2005. I would like to thank all who have followed its development over the last year, and apologise for the delay and the long wait you have endur

Bug#315903: ITP: evilfinder -- proves that any given subject is evil

2005-06-26 Thread W. Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: evilfinder Version : 666(?) Upstream Author : Michal Zalewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/evilfinder/ef.shtml License : under clarification, hopefully GPL

Re: Compiling and using glibc-2.2 under Debian Sarge

2005-06-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Magik wrote: > I'm one of the developers of Omni-bot (www.omni-bot.com). A side comment. Not having heard of omni-bot I went to that web site and looked for something that would tell me about it. I may be blind but after looking I still don't know what it is. > We recently ported our stuff to L

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 01:59:09AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 08:59:22AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > In any case, since you're the maintainer of the package, the decision is > > ultimately yours -- see the Debian Constitution, §3.1, point 1. In other > > words, you

Bug#315891: ITP: sabayon -- system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings

2005-06-26 Thread Cedric Delfosse
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Cedric Delfosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sabayon Version : 0.18 Upstream Author : Daniel Veillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and others * URL : http://www.gnome.org/projects/sabayon/ * License : GPL Description :

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050626 08:59]: > In any case, since you're the maintainer of the package, the decision is > ultimately yours -- see the Debian Constitution, §3.1, point 1. In other > words, you /are/ empowered to accept or reject this deal; and although I > would prefer that

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-06-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Petri Latvala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050624 17:57]: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:30:08PM +0200, Ondrej Sury wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 17:21 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > > > > 1) foo and foo-data. There is usualy no reason for foo-data to depend > > > on foo. foo-data does not provide

Compiling and using glibc-2.2 under Debian Sarge

2005-06-26 Thread Magik
Hi. I'm one of the developers of Omni-bot (www.omni-bot.com). We recently ported our stuff to Linux and everything works fine so far. We're using Debian Sarge to compile our stuff. Here comes the problem: It seems there are still a lot of users out there running glibc-2.2 based systems. As Sarge

[Debian Printing] Formation of a Printing Group

2005-06-26 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Printing under GNU/Linux has always been complex, and although it works quite well nowadays, it's still difficult and error-prone. Debian has a large number of interdependent printing packages, and generally a unique maintainer for each. We

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Margarita Manterola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050623 16:45]: > On 6/23/05, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is there a better solution to this? > > I think that there have been proposals for a new header that > > accomplishes what you want, > Well, a new header would be nice, of cour

Re: Bug#315808: ITP: cedar-backup2 -- Secure backup to CD-R and CD-RW media

2005-06-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-06-26 kello 12:54 -0500, Ron Johnson kirjoitti: > > Don't forget to tell Rene Engelhard to rename OpenOffice.org2. > Hi, Ron. I once asked you to quote only the parts that are relevant when you respond to someone. I did it in private since that is usually the best and most effective fir

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-26 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 12:14:44PM -0400, sean finney wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 06:05:25PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > It was sent right after the hosting died. > > Should he sent "The hosting may die somewhere in the future, please > > offer something just in case we need it"? > > well

konsultacje, stronka

2005-06-26 Thread Szymon
Dzien dobry Chcialbym sie dowiedziec kiedy Pan bedzie mial najblizsze konsultacje i jaki jest adres strony na ktorej sa informacje na temat prac zaloczeniowych. Szymon Sawicki Informatyka i Ekonometria, III rok

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-26 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 6/26/05, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10332 March 1977, sean finney wrote: > > >> I'm sorry to say that Debian's hosting of machines at Above.Net has > >> come to an end. Michael Shields and Steve Osborn have hosted critical > > sorry to be a stick in the mud about this, but..

Re: Bug#315808: ITP: cedar-backup2 -- Secure backup to CD-R and CD-RW media

2005-06-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 12:34 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > First, this sounds like an interesting piece of software, and I'm happy > to see it packaged. > > su, 2005-06-26 kello 01:51 -0500, Kenneth Pronovici kirjoitti: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: "Kenneth J. Pronovici" <[E

Bug#315877: ITP: initng -- next generation init system

2005-06-26 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: initng Version : 0.1.3 Upstream Author : Jimmy Wennlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://initng.thinktux.net/index.php/M

Re: Bug#315808: ITP: cedar-backup2 -- Secure backup to CD-R and CD-RW media

2005-06-26 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 07:59:32PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > su, 2005-06-26 kello 11:13 -0500, Kenneth Pronovici kirjoitti: > > Perhaps you would prefer this? > > > >Description : local and remote backups to CD-R/CD-RW media > > > > It's probably more descriptive anyway. > > Yep, I

Re: webcam on MSN, webcam on other IM systems

2005-06-26 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Frederico Rodrigues Abraham: > Hi. Is there any existing initiative to support webcam and audio on > MSN conversations? Is there any of this support in any other IM systems > running on Linux? > I would like to volunteer to help developing it. > Thank you > -- Fred http:

Re: Bug#315808: ITP: cedar-backup2 -- Secure backup to CD-R and CD-RW media

2005-06-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-06-26 kello 11:13 -0500, Kenneth Pronovici kirjoitti: > Perhaps you would prefer this? > >Description : local and remote backups to CD-R/CD-RW media > > It's probably more descriptive anyway. Yep, I think that's better. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: TODO for etch ?

2005-06-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian May wrote: > ...which of course is a problem if the daemons are required to setup > the network connection to the NTP server... > > e.g. network tunnels and DNS servers both might need to be started > first before the NTP server can be contacted. This is already a long standing problem caus

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-26 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 07:41:04AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst: > > > What's painful about it? > > I wouldn't be surprised if it already increases load on > lists.debian.org significantly. Actually, in my experience on very heavily utilized mail servers, greylisting greatly

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-26 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 06:05:25PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > It was sent right after the hosting died. > Should he sent "The hosting may die somewhere in the future, please > offer something just in case we need it"? well, i guess i don't know the details of the situation, but i would hope tha

Re: Bug#315808: ITP: cedar-backup2 -- Secure backup to CD-R and CD-RW media

2005-06-26 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 12:34:43PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > First, this sounds like an interesting piece of software, and I'm happy > to see it packaged. Thanks. > su, 2005-06-26 kello 01:51 -0500, Kenneth Pronovici kirjoitti: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: "Kenneth J.

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-26 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10332 March 1977, sean finney wrote: >> I'm sorry to say that Debian's hosting of machines at Above.Net has >> come to an end. Michael Shields and Steve Osborn have hosted critical > sorry to be a stick in the mud about this, but... > why wasn't this brought up *before* it was brought to an en

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 08:59:22AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > In any case, since you're the maintainer of the package, the decision is > ultimately yours -- see the Debian Constitution, §3.1, point 1. In other > words, you /are/ empowered to accept or reject this deal; and although I > would p

Re: Package distribution, a concept for a modern package distribution

2005-06-26 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 09:16:42AM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: > I've seen some messages about an LDAP implementation around last october > but I couldn't find them. I'm quite sure an LDAP solution is much better > than the current solution. But before implementing it, it has to be > evaluated against

Re: Meta-Tag for non-free docs bugs?

2005-06-26 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 02:29:57PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > I'm currently planning to organise the removal of non-free documentation > from Debian. There is not yet a timeline for when I plan to do a > mass bug filing but I will try to prepare a list of affected packages soon. > > To be a

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-06-26 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Junichi Uekawa wrote on 26-06-2005 11:32: 1) foo and foo-data. There is usualy no reason for foo-data to depend on foo. foo-data does not provide user-visible interface, only data, so it does not need to depend on foo. However, we have some users randomly filing bugs on foo-data that doesn't g

Referring http://debblue.debian.net

2005-06-26 Thread Jaap Haitsma
Hi, A while ago I sent a mail to this list if anybody could host debblue for me. Alexander Wirt was so kind to do this for me. What still needs to be done is that http://debblue.debian.net has to be set to it's new webserver location. The new webserver location is http://ned.snow-crash.org/de

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-26 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Hi Eric, First I wanted to say again that whatever your final decision, a build system that optionally does the renaming would still be appreciated. It would be even better if the MoFo would do it themselves, of course. I'm sure some users would feel better if they are able to ponder the risks fo

Re: diverting conffiles

2005-06-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 25 juin 2005 à 22:16 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit : > On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:40:54 +0200, Julien Cristau > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:35:17 +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: > >> Hi, what exactly is the problem with diverting conffiles? > >> > >See http://bugs.debian.o

Bug#315851: ITP: xfonts-wqy -- Wen Quan Yi Bitmap Song CJK font

2005-06-26 Thread Carlos Z.F. Liu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Carlos Z.F. Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xfonts-wqy Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Qianqian Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and WenQuanYi team * URL : http://wqy.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description :

Re: mplayer 1.0pre7

2005-06-26 Thread Nico Golde
Hello A Mennucc, * A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-27 09:41]: > I had forgotten mplayer_1.0pre7.orig.tar.gz > > now it is there [...] any progress? regards nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x73647CFF http://www.ngolde.de | http://www.muttng.org | http://grml.org VIM

webcam on MSN, webcam on other IM systems

2005-06-26 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
Hi. Is there any existing initiative to support webcam and audio on MSN conversations? Is there any of this support in any other IM systems running on Linux? I would like to volunteer to help developing it. Thank you -- Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-06-26 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> > > > I'm rather doubtful it should be easy to fix this situation. > > I doubt having configuration data in foo-bin is a good idea, > > since it will generally cause problems when > > libfoo1/libfoo2 needs to coexist. > > If it is not a good idea, all the more reason to introduce foo-common ? >

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-06-26 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> >> 1) foo and foo-data. There is usualy no reason for foo-data to > >> depend on foo. foo-data does not provide user-visible interface, > >> only data, so it does not need to depend on foo. > > > However, we have some users randomly filing bugs on > > foo-data that doesn't get uninstalled if it

Re: Bug#315808: ITP: cedar-backup2 -- Secure backup to CD-R and CD-RW media

2005-06-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
First, this sounds like an interesting piece of software, and I'm happy to see it packaged. su, 2005-06-26 kello 01:51 -0500, Kenneth Pronovici kirjoitti: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Kenneth J. Pronovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: cedar-backup2 Why the 2 in p

Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-06-26 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
I recently found some packages in at an IMHO totally wrong priority in Debian. Before taking action, I'd like to arrive at a rough consensus here. I also found some less clear-cut cases, so this prompted me to think a bit about the language in the policy and what it means. The more I think about it

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-06-26 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 02:43:28PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: >> 1) foo and foo-data. There is usualy no reason for foo-data to >> depend on foo. foo-data does not provide user-visible interface, >> only data, so it does not need to depend on foo. > However, we have some users randomly filing b

Re: Package distribution, a concept for a modern package distribution

2005-06-26 Thread Otto Wyss
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 06:14:46PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: > > The concept is based on an LDAP server (or simiar) as a replacement for > > the Packages file and on a P2P network for package distribution (see > > http://wyodesktop.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=pkgdist.html). IMO it > > would make

Bug#315808: ITP: cedar-backup2 -- Secure backup to CD-R and CD-RW media

2005-06-26 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Kenneth J. Pronovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cedar-backup2 Version : 2.4.2 Upstream Author : Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cedar-solutions.com/software/cedar-backup/ * License : GPL