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On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 12:31:23AM -0400, sean finney wrote:
> please excuse this blatant cross-posting, i wouldn't do it if i didn't
> think it were critical that i do so...
> http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200506142140
> say it isn't so!
It isn't so. It's true that the design of sbuild/wa
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 10:33:06PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Except unstable is capable of running packages built on stable
Trivial packages which only link against libc, yes. In general, no. And
many packages from unstable won't build correctly (or at all) on stable
during most of the release
On 6/18/05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Practically speaking, the differences in compatibility between Ubuntu and
> > Debian is of as much concern as those between Debian stable and Debian
> > unstable. New interfaces are added in unstable constantly, and softw
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The excuses pages are showing that my vncsnapshot package is being held
> back for two reasons. First, it is only 4 of 10 days old, which is
> acceptable. Second, because it depends on gcc-4.0, which has RC bugs.
> However, I haven't specificed such
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 03:19:14PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > "Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Steve> Many people consider all of options a), b), and c) to be
> Steve> inappropriate, and will instead encrypt each of the uid
> Steve> signatures individually a
> "Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Is this process "correct"? Or did something go seriously wrong
>> here? If it was correct, why was it correct? If it was wrong,
>> why was it wrong?
For anyone who didn't pick it up; I lied: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> isn't my
e
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:35:21AM -0500, Ian Murdock wrote:
> > The fact is that Hoary *was* binary compatible (in both directions) with
> > both sarge and sid when it was released. Later, the Debian glibc
> > maintainers and release managers considered changing the ABI in order to fix
> > a bug
> "Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steve> I've attached a couple of files that are a snapshot of a
Steve> more intelligent solution for library soname/shlibs
Steve> handling that I'm working on, which I would like to see
Steve> widely adopted by library mai
please excuse this blatant cross-posting, i wouldn't do it if i didn't
think it were critical that i do so...
http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200506142140
say it isn't so!
to put this in perspective, i'm currently involved with fixing
a remotely exploitable vulnerability, which upstream (and
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Adam Majer dijo [Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:15:00PM -0500]:
> > - Change boot system, to one capable of handling dependencies and
> > parallell invocation, to speed up the boot process.
> >
> >
> Err.. Why? The current "slow" bootup is caused mostly by hardware
> detection from my experience. Spee
Hi,
> libarchive-zip-perl (bug #314850)
I can look after this one if you like, since I use it. Though it seems
Matthias Klose has been doing uploads for the last year, so if he'd
rather look after it then this is fine by me.
(Please CC me on replies related to libarchive-zip-perl adoption.)
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Frank Lichtenheld and others have brought up the idea of automatically
> testing installation, upgrading, and removal of packages. It struck me
> that it should be pretty simple to implement at least basic versions of
> this. The result: http://liw.iki.fi/liw/download/piupar
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> Practically speaking, the differences in compatibility between Ubuntu and
> Debian is of as much concern as those between Debian stable and Debian
> unstable. New interfaces are added in unstable constantly, and software is
> adapted to use them. Binary packages from unsta
On 6/18/05, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're skipping the crucial point here. Under the publicly available
> licenses/policies, we *cannot* call it Firefox. The MoFo is offering
> us an agreement that allows us to use the mark. I think agreeing to
> this is against the spirit of DFS
The excuses pages are showing that my vncsnapshot package is being held
back for two reasons. First, it is only 4 of 10 days old, which is
acceptable. Second, because it depends on gcc-4.0, which has RC bugs.
However, I haven't specificed such a dependency.
$ apt-cache show vncsnapshot |sed -n '
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:08:28PM +0200, Ivo Timmermans wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm orphaning these packages:
>
> alsaplayer (bug #314841)
> dutch (bug #314839)
> dvorak7min (bug #314844)
> libauthen-radius-perl (bug #314851)
> libarchive-zip-perl (bug #314850)
> stl-manual (bug #314845)
I
Frank Lichtenheld and others have brought up the idea of automatically
testing installation, upgrading, and removal of packages. It struck me
that it should be pretty simple to implement at least basic versions of
this. The result: http://liw.iki.fi/liw/download/piuparts-0.4.tar.gz
I have attached
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:35:21AM -0500, Ian Murdock wrote:
> Please don't be dramatic. I'm not demanding anything. I'm expressing a
> concern, and a legitimate one.
I'm not the only one who isn't convinced of the accuracy of the predictions
which form the basis of your concerns. First, they're
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes. Several people (myself included) have made offers to that effect.
Great, I'd like to sign up. Can you please email me directions?
Do I need a colo, or will you tunnel?
Thomas
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On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 02:33:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
>
> > Stop sending mail from dynamically-assigned IP addresses. Deal.
>
> Gee. There is no reliable way to know whether an IP address is static
> or not. SMTP is supposed to work from
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Robert Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>>
Indeed, I have been sending my mail with UUCP since more than 10 years
and I am not going to stop soon.
>>>
>>> That's fine. What people are
Robert Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
>>> Indeed, I have been sending my mail with UUCP since more than 10 years
>>> and I am not going to stop soon.
>>
>> That's fine. What people are asking for is best effort delivery, and
>> eventual deliv
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Indeed, I have been sending my mail with UUCP since more than 10 years
and I am not going to stop soon.
That's fine. What people are asking for is best effort delivery, and
eventual delivery of all valid messages. Your proposal (and your
practi
On Sunday 19 June 2005 00:18, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> If your ISP is a good ISP, this will be advertised (by way of DNS,
> whois records or private communications).
> If it is less than good then I will take an educated guess. HTH.
My experience is that ISP's are probably not very good: I have a sta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 19, Robert Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Email can also be "non-realtime" in the case of those that still use the
>> old clunky, but still effective, UUCP method of mail delivery (I use this
>> method on my dialup-based BBS that I sti
On 19/06/05, Ivo Timmermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm orphaning these packages:
>
> alsaplayer (bug #314841)
> dutch (bug #314839)
> dvorak7min (bug #314844)
I have interest in this, I really liked using this program
> libauthen-radius-perl (bug #314851)
> libarchive-zip-
On Jun 19, Robert Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Email can also be "non-realtime" in the case of those that still use the
> old clunky, but still effective, UUCP method of mail delivery (I use this
> method on my dialup-based BBS that I still run).
Indeed, I have been sending my mail with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 19, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Just to make clear: this "requirement" of yours is one you have
>> invented.
> Me and a large part of the Internet.
What large part?
>> for the Maintainer: field of a Debian package.
> So su
On Jun 19, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just to make clear: this "requirement" of yours is one you have
> invented.
Me and a large part of the Internet.
(Hint: RFCs are not the word of $GOD, but something which sites agree
about to help interoperability.)
> An email address wi
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jun 18, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Email is realtime. I receive mails much more quickly than five minutes
on average; within seconds, typically, even for round-trips to many
mailing lists. Reducing that to minutes on average is beyond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 18, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Email is realtime. I receive mails much more quickly than five minutes
>> on average; within seconds, typically, even for round-trips to many
>> mailing lists. Reducing that to minutes on average
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 18, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > > Why is it my responsiblity to remove myself from CBL when you start
>> > > refusing mail from me? What am I supposed to do when there become
>> > > fifteen misbehaving BLs out there each in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 18, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:28:25PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> > Stop sending mail from dynamically-assigned IP addresses. Deal.
>> Please show me how to check for "dynamically-assigned IP".
> If
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 18, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Why should I have to do extra work to save you the effort? I guess
> Why should I waste a huge quantity of resources because a few people
> cannot accept that for most sites the costs/benefi
On Jun 18, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Email is realtime. I receive mails much more quickly than five minutes
> on average; within seconds, typically, even for round-trips to many
> mailing lists. Reducing that to minutes on average is beyond unacceptable.
What I like of you is yo
On Jun 18, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Why is it my responsiblity to remove myself from CBL when you start
> > > refusing mail from me? What am I supposed to do when there become
> > > fifteen misbehaving BLs out there each in its own special way?
> > Stop sending mail from
On Jun 18, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:28:25PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Stop sending mail from dynamically-assigned IP addresses. Deal.
> Please show me how to check for "dynamically-assigned IP".
If your ISP is a good ISP, this will be advertised (b
On Jun 18, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why should I have to do extra work to save you the effort? I guess
Why should I waste a huge quantity of resources because a few people
cannot accept that for most sites the costs/benefits ratio of accepting
mail from dynamically-assigne
Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Choosing not to use greylisting because it causes mail to become
> non-realtime is *not* a valid complaint. Which is the point I was
> trying to make in a roundabout fashion.
People are not using "realtime" in its technical sense here. They are
using
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 03:08:38PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Email may appear to be realtime, and you may even expect it to
> > be because this is frequently how it works. But this is not guaranteed.
>
> The RFC requires "best effort".
Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Email may appear to be realtime, and you may even expect it to
> be because this is frequently how it works. But this is not guaranteed.
The RFC requires "best effort".
> Either way people's, misguided, beliefs on the realtimeness of
> email deli
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 05:39:10PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> Email is realtime. I receive mails much more quickly than five minutes
> on average; within seconds, typically, even for round-trips to many
> mailing lists.
Email may appear to be realtime, and you may even expect it to
be beca
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 02:39:45PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> So what? It's *e-mail*. If you need realtime, pick up a phone, or use
> one of any of the innumerable chat systems.
Email is realtime. I receive mails much more quickly than five minutes
on average; within seconds, typically, even
* Gervase Markham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Eric Dorland wrote:
> >But I don't think it's good for our users for Debian to have rights
> >that the user don't have.
>
> Debian already has rights that their users don't have, the most
> prominent among them being to label a Linux distribution as
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:28:25PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Stop sending mail from dynamically-assigned IP addresses. Deal.
Please show me how to check for "dynamically-assigned IP".
Bastian
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Le samedi 18 juin 2005 à 23:28 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Jun 18, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Why is it my responsiblity to remove myself from CBL when you start
> > refusing mail from me? What am I supposed to do when there become
> > fifteen misbehaving BLs out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> Stop sending mail from dynamically-assigned IP addresses. Deal.
Gee. There is no reliable way to know whether an IP address is static
or not. SMTP is supposed to work from both: which means that
graylisting is in fact violating the protocols in a sever
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 18, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Why is it my responsiblity to remove myself from CBL when you start
>> refusing mail from me? What am I supposed to do when there become
>> fifteen misbehaving BLs out there each in its own s
Olaf van der Spek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 6/18/05, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > So what? It's *e-mail*. If you need realtime, pick up a phone, or use
>> > one of any of the innumerable chat systems.
>>
>> Ok, from
On Jun 18, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why is it my responsiblity to remove myself from CBL when you start
> refusing mail from me? What am I supposed to do when there become
> fifteen misbehaving BLs out there each in its own special way?
Stop sending mail from dynamically-a
Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> CBL only lists addresses that spam thier spamtraps, and removes
> listings automaticly after several days. They attempt not to list
> mail servers. To be removed immediatly, just fill out their web form
> with the IP address to be removed.
Why is it m
On 6/18/05, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > So what? It's *e-mail*. If you need realtime, pick up a phone, or use
> > one of any of the innumerable chat systems.
>
> Ok, from now on, I should report bugs to you by phone?
Is realt
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Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So what? It's *e-mail*. If you need realtime, pick up a phone, or use
> one of any of the innumerable chat systems.
Ok, from now on, I should report bugs to you by phone?
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Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It stops a lot of viruses and spam, with no false positives. What's the
> problem?
It has false positives, in fact, because it fails badly for certain
perfectly reasonable kinds of email delivery.
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On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:08:28PM +0200, Ivo Timmermans wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm orphaning these packages:
>
> dutch (bug #314839)
>
> dutch should probably be adopted by someone who speaks Dutch.
I'm willing to adopt this package is nobody else wants it.
Kurt
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* Dale C. Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 02:16:18 -0400
> Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > * Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Jun 15, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > It's an important part in evaluating the balance bet
Hi,
I'm orphaning these packages:
alsaplayer (bug #314841)
dutch (bug #314839)
dvorak7min (bug #314844)
libauthen-radius-perl (bug #314851)
libarchive-zip-perl (bug #314850)
stl-manual (bug #314845)
texi2html (bug #314843)
texi2html is a build dependency for quite a few packages, a
On 6/18/05, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm more worried about the future; and I still haven't seen anyone
> address my initial question, which is why Ubuntu is tracking sid on core
> things like libc in the first place. The value you add is around
> the edges with stuff like X.org and
On Jun 18, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Debian packages just work" has been a truism for *years*, and it's been
And now people are learning that Debian packages are not Debian/unstable
packages nor Ubuntu packages. Big deal.
I still do not see any harm caused by this, except some spec
On 6/17/05, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I've said to you privately already, I do not feel that demanding binary
> compatibility between Debian and Ubuntu is the best way to address your
> concerns. You seem to disagree strongly, as is of course your right, but I
> think that som
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 02:16:18 -0400
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Jun 15, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > It's an important part in evaluating the balance between the
> > > > priorities of our users and free software.
2005/6/17, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> The ironic thing is, even if we do rename, who is going to do the trademark
> search to prove that the new name we choose is not someone else's trademark
> who we do NOT have permission to use?
I doubt this is relevent. Unless there is another *b
2005/6/17, Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > That's simply another way to say that "the group of people who are
> > offended is a minority".
>
> even if the group where the material is popular is a minority itself?
I think the case is:
- a minority are offended
- a minority like it
- a major
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Eric Dorland writes:
> If we don't need the "arrangement", why exactly would we accept it
> anyway?
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