Re: gluck (cvs, people, planet, etc.) downtime - ongoing raid problems

2005-04-04 Thread Christian Storch
Adam M. schrieb: > Blars Blarson wrote: > > >>>Name Server:SAENS.DEBIAN.ORG >>>Name Server:KLECKER.DEBIAN.ORG >>>Name Server:SPOHR.DEBIAN.ORG >>> >>> >> >>spohr changed IP addresses last week, and the glue record returned by >>the .org nameservers still had the old address when I checked a few

Re: bug #255367: Lake of PPTP in Debian first CD

2005-04-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050403 21:20]: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2005, Lior Kaplan wrote: > > I'd like to raise a discussion about PPTP (package name is pptp-linux). > > The package is used to connect to the internet, mostly with DSL connections. > I thought that was pppoe? Isn'

Re: watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Shaun Jackman
Thanks, Seo! heanet works for me too. Cheers, Shaun On Apr 4, 2005 9:44 PM, Seo Sanghyeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, I am not subscribed to debian-devel, but I read your message > from the web archive. > > I'm using this: > > version=3 > http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pye

Re: why allow broken packages to get all the way to mirrors?

2005-04-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050403 14:55]: > I think he's talking about mirrored Packages files being updated before > all the packages get mirrored and/or arch all packages reaching the > archive before arch specific builds (except the maintainer's arch), > because of buildd queue. For the

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-04-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050402 18:10]: > Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) > > On Apr 02, Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> >> I'm ok with (1), provided we do it in the non-free archive. > > >> >> > This does present certain logistical problems for produc

Re: watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Shaun Jackman wrote: $ file ../neutrino-0.8.2.tar.gz ../neutrino-0.8.2.tar.gz: HTML document text $ head -2 ../neutrino-0.8.2.tar.gz Select a Mirror for File: /n/ne/neutrino/neutrino-0.8.2.tar.gz Same for me $ grep -v "#" debian/watch version=2 http://prdownloads

Re: watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Adam M.
Shaun Jackman wrote: >This doesn't work for me: > >$ cat debian/watch >version=2 >http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/n/ne/neutrino/neutrino-(.*)\.tar\.gz >debian uupdate >$ uscan >neutrino: Newer version (0.8.2) available on remote site > (local version is 0.7.3) >neutrino: Successfully downloade

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Re: watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Shaun Jackman
On Apr 4, 2005 5:02 PM, Free Ekanayaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Example: > > http://prdownloads.sf.net/a/al/alsamodular/ams-(.*)\.tar\.bz2 This doesn't work for me: $ cat debian/watch version=2 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/n/ne/neutrino/neutrino-(.*)\.tar\.gz debian uupdate $ uscan neu

Re: gluck (cvs, people, planet, etc.) downtime - ongoing raid problems

2005-04-04 Thread Adam M.
Blars Blarson wrote: >>Name Server:SAENS.DEBIAN.ORG >>Name Server:KLECKER.DEBIAN.ORG >>Name Server:SPOHR.DEBIAN.ORG >> >> > >spohr changed IP addresses last week, and the glue record returned by >the .org nameservers still had the old address when I checked a few >hours ago. This has been rep

Re: gluck (cvs, people, planet, etc.) downtime - ongoing raid problems

2005-04-04 Thread Blars Blarson
>Name Server:SAENS.DEBIAN.ORG >Name Server:KLECKER.DEBIAN.ORG >Name Server:SPOHR.DEBIAN.ORG spohr changed IP addresses last week, and the glue record returned by the .org nameservers still had the old address when I checked a few hours ago. This has been reported to debian-admin. (The new addres

Re: How to detect which user is connected to $DISPLAY

2005-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Martin, Am 2005-04-04 19:31:45, schrieb Martin Schulze: > FWIW: That's not always the case. Below is a real-world example > from a woody system with XDM: > > koulutie!joey(pts/4):~> w > 19:28:13 up 29 days, 8:52, 6 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.06 > USER TTY FROM

Re: watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Free Ekanayaka
|--==> Shaun Jackman writes: SJ> On Apr 4, 2005 11:06 AM, Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Use something like >>http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/projectname/somefile-(.*)\.tar\.gz >> >>Works for me. SJ> Doesn't work for me though. Instead of a tarball, I get an HTML file

Re: Right of a maintainer not to respect FHS

2005-04-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 03:13:36PM -0400, David Mandelberg wrote: > On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 11:53 +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > For invidual files > > this is too much work though - it could work for directories. > Why would it be hard with individual files? Just use a shell fragment > like:

Re: gluck (cvs, people, planet, etc.) downtime - ongoing raid problems

2005-04-04 Thread Adam M.
Christian Storch wrote: >Strange: Could there be any correlation with my observed problems >about resolving anything of debian.org during exactly that time? >(http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2005/04/msg00023.html) > > Name Server:SAENS.DEBIAN.ORG Name Server:KLECKER.DEBIAN.ORG Name Server:SP

Re: gluck (cvs, people, planet, etc.) downtime - ongoing raid problems

2005-04-04 Thread Christian Storch
James Troup wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday evening gluck.debian.org started experiencing problems > writing to it's disks. The local admins investigated and after > physically power cycling machine it became apparent that the RAID > controller was deeply unhappy - it claimed to have lost 2 out of it'

Re: More DDTP problems

2005-04-04 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Apr 4, 2005 4:04 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am currently on that (started last weekend). Jeroen sent me the CVS > tarball. I hoped to finished it at the weekend but it's more than > expected and i did not yet understand all code. > > Perhaps it is also a good idea if

Re: Where to install ROX applications?

2005-04-04 Thread Tony Houghton
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > I removed an Apps dir in the old package for rox-filer which was located > in /usr/lib exactly for that reason. An arch-indep dir like /usr/share/rox > it's the perfect location for that kind of contents. BTW, you are > welcome on the rox

Re: Where to install ROX applications?

2005-04-04 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 06:17:33PM +0100, Tony Houghton wrote: > I was thinking of something like /usr/share/rox-desktop/Apps (I would > probably make a meta-package called rox-desktop anyway, to conveniently > install a nice bundle of applications), but that would mean having to > move the binarie

Re: dynamic partial mirror, apt-get fails

2005-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:11:45PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op ma, 04-04-2005 te 19:16 +0100, schreef Cristian Barbarosie: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I am trying to implement a cgi script for mirroring a small part of a > > large collection of files (the debian distribution). The idea is to

Re: Right of a maintainer not to respect FHS

2005-04-04 Thread David Mandelberg
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 11:53 +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > For invidual files > this is too much work though - it could work for directories. Why would it be hard with individual files? Just use a shell fragment like: FILES="foo bar baz" for i in $FILES do mv "$DESTDIR/usr/lib/$i" "$DESTDIR/u

debram and packages temporarily absent from sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
This mail is somewhat lengthy, and most of you do not need to read it. You want to read this mail if you maintain packages which (as of 2 April) sarge temporarily lacks. These are packages which used to be in sarge and still have hope to join the official sarge release but, for whatever reason (p

Re: watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Shaun Jackman
On Apr 4, 2005 11:06 AM, Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use something like > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/projectname/somefile-(.*)\.tar\.gz > > Works for me. Doesn't work for me though. Instead of a tarball, I get an HTML file that starts with... Select a Mirror for File: /libnj

Re: dynamic partial mirror, apt-get fails

2005-04-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op ma, 04-04-2005 te 19:16 +0100, schreef Cristian Barbarosie: > Hi everybody, > > I am trying to implement a cgi script for mirroring a small part of a > large collection of files (the debian distribution). The idea is to > mirror only those files which are requested, by downloading them "on th

Re: The sarge release disaster - some thoughts

2005-04-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 05:19:41PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > The milestone that included the start of the official security support > > for sarge was only 6 days after the announcement, but is was missed by > > more than 6 months. > > > > Whyever it was expected to ge

Re: More DDTP problems

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Martin, On Monday, 04 Apr 2005, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The questions below were posted at long time in the DDTP-Coors list, but > > weren't replied :((( > > > > IMHO the ddts code needs a revision to correct bugs, I am wrong? This > > revision is possible? I can help. >

Re: watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Michael Koch
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:21:41AM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: > Recently I've been using umn [1] in my watch files for SourceForge > packages. It looks like this link is dead now. I find I have to update > the watch file for all my SourceForge packages every six months or so. > Finding a new link

watch file for SourceForge packages

2005-04-04 Thread Shaun Jackman
Recently I've been using umn [1] in my watch files for SourceForge packages. It looks like this link is dead now. I find I have to update the watch file for all my SourceForge packages every six months or so. Finding a new link that works is usually not trivial. Does anyone maintain a list of worki

dynamic partial mirror, apt-get fails

2005-04-04 Thread Cristian Barbarosie
Hi everybody, I am trying to implement a cgi script for mirroring a small part of a large collection of files (the debian distribution). The idea is to mirror only those files which are requested, by downloading them "on the fly" when the clients request them. Requests in the form "wget http:/

Re: How to detect which user is connected to $DISPLAY

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Michelle Konzack wrote: > I asume your are using TESTING or UNSTABLE... > Under STABLE I get only something like > > joss pts/0Mar 26 14:42 > joss pts/1Mar 26 14:42 > toto pts/2Mar 26 15:06 > > This is, why I have asked... > The test I must do, should work unde

Re: More DDTP problems

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Schulze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The questions below were posted at long time in the DDTP-Coors list, but > weren't replied :((( > > IMHO the ddts code needs a revision to correct bugs, I am wrong? This > revision is possible? I can help. It needs a thorough source code review before it can be react

Can we be friends?

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Re: The sarge release disaster - some thoughts

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Eduard Bloch wrote: > > Also, bear in mind that if we'd have done that, then we would still be > > where we are right now, but would not have the debian installer ready to > > release with sarge. > > Maybe. But AFAICS there are only few developers that have worked on > both, b-f and d-i. So how wo

Re: The sarge release disaster - some thoughts

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Adrian Bunk wrote: > The milestone that included the start of the official security support > for sarge was only 6 days after the announcement, but is was missed by > more than 6 months. > > Whyever it was expected to get testing-security for sarge that quick, it > should have been obvious 6 da

Re: An alternative analysis of the etch architecture proposal

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 05:50:23PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > [...] > > - issues with space on ftp.debian.org and on mirrors > > (especially hindering amd64) > > > > It might be a better point to start moving non-released architectures > > (GNU Hurd and sh) to a diff

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-04 Thread Humberto Massa
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.01.2104 +0200]: Uh, this looks like a "pull" type of thing in which ever init.d script starts its dependencies. I don't think this is a good idea. No, it is not. The dependencies are cached. Cached? As in q

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-04-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:13:55AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:22:51PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Given some options: > > > > 1. Don't distribute the firmware blob at all; > > 2. Provide a way to download the blob during install (while admitting > >this won

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-04-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 04-Apr-05, 02:48 (CDT), Pierre THIERRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scribit Adam Heath dies 01/04/2005 hora 19:10: > > Additionally, as a way to weed out other problems, any patches that > > are leafs(ie, don't depend on anything) are applied in a random order. > > For the sake of my curiosity

Re: Right of a maintainer not to respect FHS

2005-04-04 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Pierre, On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:28:22AM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote: > I have a problem with a bug filed on r-doc-html (#300765). The > documentation was entirely in /usr/lib, and it seems that all R packages > have all their files under /usr/lib, whatever their type or purpose. How is tha

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-04-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:36:57PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 03, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 04:51:18PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > | Installer images x, y, and z belong to the 'main' distribution of > > > | Debian, and therefore do suppo

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-04-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:22:51PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Given some options: > > 1. Don't distribute the firmware blob at all; > 2. Provide a way to download the blob during install (while admitting >this won't work if the blob is the code for your ADSL modem); > 3. Provide the blob o

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-04-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 02:10:34PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Sunday 03 April 2005 05:51 am, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Putting items from the non-free archive in the installer images does > > just that. It is debatable whether the intention is the same, but by our > > rulebook, this is not

Re: Right of a maintainer not to respect FHS

2005-04-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005, Pierre THIERRY wrote: > I filed a bug with severity serious, as this breaks Policy 9.1.1 > (FHS is mandatory). But the maintainer argued that R was packaged > like this from the beginning, and that because it must stay in the > distribution, the bug had to be downgraded to wish

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Adam Heath dies 01/04/2005 hora 19:10: > Additionally, as a way to weed out other problems, any patches that > are leafs(ie, don't depend on anything) are applied in a random order. For the sake of my curiosity: - what problems do thsi random order could weed? - won't it be more difficult

Re: Right of a maintainer not to respect FHS

2005-04-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:28:22AM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote: > I have a problem with a bug filed on r-doc-html (#300765). The > documentation was entirely in /usr/lib, and it seems that all R packages > have all their files under /usr/lib, whatever their type or purpose. > I filed a bug with se

Right of a maintainer not to respect FHS

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre THIERRY
I have a problem with a bug filed on r-doc-html (#300765). The documentation was entirely in /usr/lib, and it seems that all R packages have all their files under /usr/lib, whatever their type or purpose. I filed a bug with severity serious, as this breaks Policy 9.1.1 (FHS is mandatory). But the