Re: Is Anthony Fok MIA?

2005-03-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-11 11:47]: > > I had dinner with Anthony last night. I'll follow up with more > > information on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Where is that, is that public? No, it's a private alias. > We are a bit concerned with old LilyPond packages, and a potential > ne

Re: buildd queue starvation (Was: Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!)

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the queue is non-zero for a longer time, there is a problem in buildd > machine power, and the wanna-build admin has choosen to in this case > allocate the buildd power that remains to the building of packages that > are of higher priority, re

buildd queue starvation (Was: Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!)

2005-03-12 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 11:43:41AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:24:35PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > What are these "relatively effective workarounds"? > > Not being a buildd admin, I have no idea as to the specifics, but I infer > the existence of these worka

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:24:35PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Practically, buildd admins can notice a longer-than-usual queue and throw > > hardware at the problem, and that seems to work well enough, and we could > > reduce the rate of pac

Bug#299257: ITP: xkeyval -- extension of the keyval package

2005-03-12 Thread Michael Prokop
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Prokop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xkeyval Version : 2.3 Upstream Author : Hendri Adriaens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~hendri/Downloads/xkeyval.html * License : LaTeX Project Public L

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Practically, buildd admins can notice a longer-than-usual queue and throw > hardware at the problem, and that seems to work well enough, and we could > reduce the rate of package inflow through various means, but the problem > still remains -- the queue

Re: Bug#299242: ITP: ha-prosper -- improved LaTeX class for writing transparencies

2005-03-12 Thread Michael Prokop
* Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20050313 00:37]: > Le samedi 12 mars 2005 à 23:44 +0100, Michael Prokop a écrit : > > * Package name: ha-prosper > > Version : 4.21 > > Upstream Author : Hendri Adriaens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * URL : http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~hendri

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi Hamish, > > On Saturday, 12 Mar 2005, you wrote: > > Is there anything that can be done to help with arm/mipsel? > As it has been said earlier, the machines are back, but just need to > catch up. So just waiting might be the

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:12:12PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:01:28PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Remember that the buildd queue is not FIFO at all. The queue has a > > > completly static order. Any c

Re: Bug#299242: ITP: ha-prosper -- improved LaTeX class for writing transparencies

2005-03-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 12 mars 2005 à 23:44 +0100, Michael Prokop a écrit : > * Package name: ha-prosper > Version : 4.21 > Upstream Author : Hendri Adriaens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~hendri/Downloads/haprosper.html > * License : LaTeX Project Public

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Er, packages *do* eventually get built; they just don't get built in any > kind of FIFO order. This is not true. The current system has an unbounded wait time. For example, the effect of the Bug Squashing Party, which causes a bunch of uploads to b

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:01:28PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Remember that the buildd queue is not FIFO at all. The queue has a > > completly static order. Any changes to the queue are just packages > > hiding because they are not "nee

Bug#299242: ITP: ha-prosper -- improved LaTeX class for writing transparencies

2005-03-12 Thread Michael Prokop
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Prokop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ha-prosper Version : 4.21 Upstream Author : Hendri Adriaens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~hendri/Downloads/haprosper.html * License : LaTeX Project Pu

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Remember that the buildd queue is not FIFO at all. The queue has a > completly static order. Any changes to the queue are just packages > hiding because they are not "needs-build". I consider that the biggest > flaw of all in wanna-build. This is

Re: querying available package versions over the net

2005-03-12 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello, Perhaps the best solution would be if I would offer a interface to packages.debian.org that is easier parsable than the current one. Patches and/or proposals in other forms welcome. I read the slides of your FOSDEM presentation but couldn't find anything on this. What about offering SOAP or

Re: querying available package versions over the net

2005-03-12 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello Patches and/or proposals in other forms welcome. Gruesse, I read the slides of your FOSDEM presentation but couldn't find anything on this. What about offering SOAP or XML-RPC access to as many debian web services as possible ? It would save the people who want to develop scripts based

Re: Switchconf: Orphaning or removing?

2005-03-12 Thread Florian Möllers
Hi, can you just give us (at the fai mailing list) a brief description of what you are discussing?! Let me guess, and I migth be totally wrong, but you are discussing ways to install 60 PCs with Debian and you have 4 different configurations to install. Well, than fai is what you are looking for

Re: combining fakeroot and distcc/SSH

2005-03-12 Thread Daniel Schepler
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.05.1225 +0100]: >> > I am trying to use distcc to compile Debian packages and kernels, >> > and am failing. The reason is that I need to use distcc-over-SSH, >> > but the Debian compile proce

Re: automake/autoconf in build-dependencies

2005-03-12 Thread Daniel Schepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hampson) writes: > The arguments _for_ build-depending on the various autotools are (off > the top of my head) Here are some other reasons pro that I can think of: - Putting autoconf-generated files in the source package is nearly as fragile as generating them at build ti

Re: Restrictive SMTP server

2005-03-12 Thread John Hasler
daniel writes: > I'm with a problem about sending emails @debian.org. My ESP (email > service provider) has a restrictive rule about sending emails with a From > header different of the account you actually have. Is it the "From:" header they object to, or the SMTP HELO? I fix up the latter in Ex

Re: Switchconf: Orphaning or removing?

2005-03-12 Thread Shaul Karl
I am forwarding this to linux-fai at uni-koeln dot de. I believe many people interested in this discussion hang out there. On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:35:45PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 10:44:25AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > 60 PCs with Debian and there exist

Re: Restrictive SMTP server

2005-03-12 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >The fact is that I am unable to send emails with my debian.org address. >Does someone has some idea of how can I fix that? ssh to people.debian.org and send the mail from there. (use mutt, mailx, etc.) -- Blars Blarson [EMAIL PROTECTE

Restrictive SMTP server

2005-03-12 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Hi, I'm with a problem about sending emails @debian.org. My ESP (email service provider) has a restrictive rule about sending emails with a >From header different of the account you actually have. This wouldn't be a problem, as I could set up a mail server in my machine, but I am in a DSL network

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Saturday 12 March 2005 12:38 pm, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > | only has use if it's a transition package depending on the renamed > | package. Since this isn't what r-gnome will be as far as I understand > | you, you should simply stop building r-gnome from r-base. People > | upgrading will notic

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 11:30:54AM -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > Ok, so I just did the following > > 1) Run 'wajig reconfigure apt-listchanges' to ensure apt-listchanges shows >everything, even on versions we've seen before > 2) 'wajig purge r-gnome' > 3) 'wajig install r-gnome' and verif

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 12 March 2005 at 17:53, Martin Michlmayr wrote: | * Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-12 11:42]: | > 4) Scratch my head because even though 3) uses apt-get and 1) ensure NEWS | >should be mailed to me, and 2) ensure it is a fresh package install, I get | >nothing. | | It

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 12 March 2005 at 11:30, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | Ok, so I just did the following | | 1) Run 'wajig reconfigure apt-listchanges' to ensure apt-listchanges shows |everything, even on versions we've seen before | 2) 'wajig purge r-gnome' | 3) 'wajig install r-gnome' and verify with -t that

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Jeroen, On 12 March 2005 at 18:09, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: | On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 10:45:00AM -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | > The next version of R [1] ships with the previously included Gnome front-end. | | without, I assume. Yup. Thanks for spotting that from context. | > So t

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-12 11:42]: > 4) Scratch my head because even though 3) uses apt-get and 1) ensure NEWS >should be mailed to me, and 2) ensure it is a fresh package install, I get >nothing. It is only shown on fresh package *upgrades*, not installs. -- Mart

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Martin, Thanks for the quick reply. On 12 March 2005 at 17:04, Martin Michlmayr wrote: | * Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-12 10:45]: | > So the r-gnome binary package becomes an empty shell, and I would like to | > signal that via a NEWS file (as opposed to a debconf message).

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:19:23PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: >> [Probably going a bit off track for -release; MFT to -devel] > >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 07:14:35PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >> > The queue ordering is entirely automatic, and AIUI

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 10:45:00AM -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > The next version of R [1] ships with the previously included Gnome front-end. without, I assume. > So the r-gnome binary package becomes an empty shell, and I would like to > signal that via a NEWS file (as opposed to a debconf

Re: debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-12 10:45]: > So the r-gnome binary package becomes an empty shell, and I would like to > signal that via a NEWS file (as opposed to a debconf message). However, in > my tests, the NEWS file never got displayed by apt-listchanges. apt-listchanges is

Re: querying available package versions over the net

2005-03-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In order to fix debget to work with package pools > (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=84368) I need to know > what versions of a package are available, without relying on apt's > cache. (The main point of the program is to fetch ver

debian/NEWS.Debian / apt-listchanges woes

2005-03-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
The next version of R [1] ships with the previously included Gnome front-end. So the r-gnome binary package becomes an empty shell, and I would like to signal that via a NEWS file (as opposed to a debconf message). However, in my tests, the NEWS file never got displayed by apt-listchanges. I pl

Re: automake/autoconf in build-dependencies

2005-03-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hampson) writes: > The arguments _for_ build-depending on the various autotools are (off > the top of my head) > > (In the below, read autoconf as autoconf/automake. ^_^) > > * keeps .diff.gz small and readable, as configure changes are > not included. And small configure

Brain Trauma - Flatline EP ONSALE NOW! / Kasket Records News

2005-03-12 Thread Kasket Kyle
The time that we have all waited for is here everyone. The debut EP from Brain Trauma is now officially onsale! If you have pre-orderd the cd allready, myself and Toxik Flow have allready autographed your copy and shipped it out. As for you folks who didnt pre-order, you can still pick up y

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 02:26:43PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > As it has been said earlier, the machines are back, but just need to > > > catch up. So just waiting might be the easiest thing to do. > > More machines can catch up faster than few can do. > > When one machine out of a doz

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Ingo, On Saturday, 12 Mar 2005, you wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > As it has been said earlier, the machines are back, but just need to > > catch up. So just waiting might be the easiest thing to do. > > More machines can catch up faster tha

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > As it has been said earlier, the machines are back, but just need to > catch up. So just waiting might be the easiest thing to do. More machines can catch up faster than few can do. When one machine out of a dozen machines is

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Hamish, On Saturday, 12 Mar 2005, you wrote: > Is there anything that can be done to help with arm/mipsel? Not uploading any new packages *g* As it has been said earlier, the machines are back, but just need to catch up. So just waiting might be the easiest thing to do. Greetings Martin

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 09:03:16PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:19:23PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > I'm trying to work out why package *section* matters at all. Package name > > is a bit odd, too, but including the section in there is just totally > > whack. >

Re: Bug#299024: ITP: dh-zope -- debhelper script for zope packaging

2005-03-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 11 mars 2005 à 14:09 +0100, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : > > Any specific reason to not include this script in debhelper instead? > > maybe because it has unnecessary dependencies in order to be > functionnal ? > > IIRC, there is some dh_* scripts that are not shiped within debhelper >

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas Hood
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:00:15 +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > Here is another idea. We create a new binary package > "sound-system-chooser" which contains blacklists for both OSS and ALSA and > provides a debconf interface that the administrator can use to disable > either or both of the sound systems.

Bug#299186: RFP: tetribot -- multiserver capable AI bot for tetrinet

2005-03-12 Thread Robert Millan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: tetribot Version : 0.38-rc17 Upstream Author : Christopher Yeoh, johnathan d., Andrew Quinn * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/tetribot/ * License : GPL Description : multiserver capable AI bot for tetr

Re: NPTL and static linking

2005-03-12 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jason Lunz] > I just figured out a way to do this for the ssh binary. Maybe this would > work for you? As others have pointed out, there is -Wl,-Bstatic and -Wl,-Bdynamic - but even absent those, you can just refer to the .a files directly if you wish. So instead of -Lopenbsd-compat/ -lopenbsd-

5 Minutes of Sperancy

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