in alpha
chars would solve both cases:
That'd mean REJECTing uploads whose versions match "[^0-9]+[a-z][0-9]+$"
presumably.
Another case that should be considered is the existing use of + for
revisions of a cvs snapshot (e.g. mutt uses a + but always does so):
1.2-20041208 &qu
Steve Langasek wrote:
Changing library *names*, OTOH, is something quite different -- and in the
first case, providing "compatibility with the old names" totally defeats the
purpose of *having* sonames, whereas in the second case, it still sounds
like gratuitous change to me.
Steve,
I
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:32:35 -0800, Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 10:23:16PM -0500, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> > Maybe I'm still waiting for my first real problem to show up, but I
> > generally find dselect to be a real pleasure to use.
> >
> > Could you present
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:36 -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:26:00PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 11:30 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > On 08-Dec-04, 11:15 (CST), "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > > Get off your ass.
>
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 17:41 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 04:49:13PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
[snip]
>
> I'm skeptical to begin with of the benefits LCC has to offer Debian -- being
> bound not just to an external *standard*, but to an external
> *implementat
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:26:00PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 11:30 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > On 08-Dec-04, 11:15 (CST), "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > > Get off your ass.
> >
> > Ah. I see. Courtesy is not your strong point.
>
> His pa
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 10:23:16PM -0500, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:11:31AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
>
> > I used dselect a lot back in the day (I don't know, like up until 2000
> > or so?). It had a clunky but useable interface (though I fully
> > understand how new
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 11:30 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 08-Dec-04, 11:15 (CST), "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> > Get off your ass.
>
> Ah. I see. Courtesy is not your strong point.
His parents must not have taught him manners. Or he knows that
he can't get beat u
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:11:31AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> I used dselect a lot back in the day (I don't know, like up until 2000
> or so?). It had a clunky but useable interface (though I fully
> understand how newbies could get frustrated), and generally worked all
> right until there was a
paddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In which case, is there something fundamentally broken about the spamcop
> system ? Or is there some technically insoluble problem here ?
It seems to be more that they just don't really give a crap:
(1) they trust users, (2) users are stupid, and (3) there's
On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 11:55 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:49:49PM +0100, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The authoritative document is the menu _manual_:
> > (/usr/share/doc/menu/menu.txt.gz), section 3.7
> >
> > An extract from that section:
> >
> >
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 10:31 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> > To be honest I really don't see what the problem is here. Content
> > which is illegal to distribute in pretty much any significant market
> > should be kept off the first CD, and proba
Matthew Danish wrote:
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:47:25PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
reopen 170548
thanks
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 10:43:42PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
* Added ./autogen.sh call in debian/rules ( makes package more
portable
and easier to maintain in the futur
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 13:34 -0800, Scott Robinson wrote:
> > If my wife saw my son with these pictures on a disk that I gave him, she'd
> > take a frying pan and beat me dead.
>
> And what would she say about any number of other iffy packages?
>
> bible-kjv? Probably nothing because it isn't offe
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:56:23PM +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> retitle 284642 ITP: debedit -- script to edit DEB files with hooks or
> interactively
> thanks
>
> Together with Goswin, I have now given dpkg-reversion the ability to
> invoke a hook on the unpacked binary pa
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:49:49PM +0100, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The authoritative document is the menu _manual_:
> (/usr/share/doc/menu/menu.txt.gz), section 3.7
>
> An extract from that section:
>
> Debian package maintainers should ensure that any icons they include
* Bruce Perens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Henrique answered your question. There has been some divergence between
> various distributions regarding the naming and especially the versioning
> of these libraries. We would heal that fork to increase compatibility.
> Doing that means that some nam
Gergely Korodi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From time to time I give a try to aptitude and synaptic, but always recoil
> in horror. I don't know what the fuss is about aptitude, IMHO it's way
> more complicated to use than dselect, and less clear as well.
Amazing
I used dselect a lot back
Bruce,
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 04:49:13PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Henrique answered your question. There has been some divergence between
> various distributions regarding the naming and especially the versioning
> of these libraries. We would heal that fork to increase compatibility.
> D
Steve,
Henrique answered your question. There has been some divergence between
various distributions regarding the naming and especially the
versioning of these libraries. We would heal that fork to increase
compatibility. Doing that means that some names and version tags are
going to change f
Hello Debian developers
I have added sometimes ago a new graph to popcon.debian.org
showing what release of popularity-contest were used to report.
Here is today results:
Statistics per popularity-contest releases:
1.18.woody.19: 114
1.19 : 33
1.20 :
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 02:59:10PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > The main technical effect that I see would be that the names of some
> > dynamic libraries would change. And compatibility with the old names
> > could be maintained indefinitely if nece
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 02:59:10PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> The main technical effect that I see would be that the names of some
> dynamic libraries would change. And compatibility with the old names
> could be maintained indefinitely if necessary.
How in the world does changing the names of
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:47:25PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> reopen 170548
> thanks
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 10:43:42PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> >
> > * Added ./autogen.sh call in debian/rules ( makes package more
> > portable
> > and easier to maintain in the future ).
b1
1.2-1~beta << 1.2-1~beta2 << 1.2-1~beta+b1
Adding the implicit '0' that dpkg assumes on versions ending in alpha
chars would solve both cases:
1.rc << 1.rc0+b1 << 1.rc2
1.2-1~beta << 1.2-1~beta0+b1 << 1.2-1~beta2
Another case that should b
The Linux Core Consortium would like to have Debian's involvement. This
organization has revived what I originally proposed to do as the LSB -
to make a binary base for Linux distributions that could be among
several distributions who would share in the effort of maintaining
certain packages. I
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: authfail
Version : 1.0.1
Upstream Author : Bartosz M. Krajnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.bmk.bz/authfail/
* License : GPL
Description : Netfilter REJECT/DROP for hosts with too many "auth failur
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:25:22AM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 02:06:26PM +0100, Lo?c Minier wrote:
> >
> > It's defined in the _Menu_ Policy. I think the people maintaining the
> > Debian menu system are best placed to tell what should be allowed or
> > not.
>
> I
reopen 170548
thanks
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 10:43:42PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
>
> * Added ./autogen.sh call in debian/rules ( makes package more
> portable
> and easier to maintain in the future ).
> * (Closes: 273895, 217516, 220407, 252897, 159110, 170548, 203843)
> (
This is probably related to your university address, which also
bounces with "too many hops".
- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Too many hops
- End forwarded message -
--
martin; (greetings from the heart of th
libsdl1.2 (1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-1) unstable; urgency=medium
* Thanks go to Lawrence Williams
( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
for this release.
* Updated to 07/10/2004 CVS.
* Added --static-libs to sdl-config manpage.
* Added NAS support.
* Provide debian patches for autogen.sh ( needs autom
> If my wife saw my son with these pictures on a disk that I gave him, she'd
> take a frying pan and beat me dead.
And what would she say about any number of other iffy packages?
bible-kjv? Probably nothing because it isn't offensive to her.
fortunes-off? Because hot-babe uses graphics it's worse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Akamai is fully able to turn customers away, and has done so for various reasons (e.g. the customer is a spammer).
That's the key. And we had a posting from Joe Alewin that was most
informative on this topic.
For an example of a non-discriminatory mirror, consider the
retitle 284642 ITP: debedit -- script to edit DEB files with hooks or
interactively
thanks
Together with Goswin, I have now given dpkg-reversion the ability to
invoke a hook on the unpacked binary package. He is now using it to
test moving /lib64 from base-files to libc6 on amd64 and to change
th
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 04:48:24PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> A mirror operator in general /does/ make choices about the content
> carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would already have been
> litigated is a Cable TV system. The U.S. FCC decided that
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 06:41:35PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> El mi??, 08-12-2004 a las 12:30 -0500, Luis R. Rodriguez escribi??:
> > On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 05:21:56PM +, David Pashley wrote:
> > > On Dec 08, 2004 at 17:15, Luis R. Rodriguez praised the llamas by
> > > saying:
> >
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> thanks for the prompt e-mail. The goal of my e-mail was to get us off
> our asses and get a debian xorg package out. Today I realized there
An email won't help. The package itself might, if uploaded to experimental
(don't you dare upload such a thin
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: freebooters
Version : 0.2.2
Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://home.gna.org/freebooters
* License : GPL
Description : Free "Pirates!" like strategy game
The Caribbean Sea in the late 16th c
Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I could be wrong, but Debian is occasionally used and distributed by
> people outside the USA. Making any argument in this thread with
> reference solely to US law is irrelevant to the problems at hand.
I was answering a claim about US law; I was not the o
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:29:55AM +0100, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote:
> Debian might fare much
> better if its members who happen to be citizens of the U f*ck*ng S of A
> rememeber sometimes that they are *not* center and moral arbiter of the
> world... The same can be told of (semi-) legal conc
On 08-Dec-04, 11:15 (CST), "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its been more than a year now. What's the status of this ITP?
> This is ridiculous. If you can't package it, then say so so others can
> come in and do the job. We deserve a freedesktop.org package by now in
> debian.
If
El miÃ, 08-12-2004 a las 12:30 -0500, Luis R. Rodriguez escribiÃ:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 05:21:56PM +, David Pashley wrote:
> > On Dec 08, 2004 at 17:15, Luis R. Rodriguez praised the llamas by
> > saying:
> > >
> > >
> > > Its been more than a year now. What's the status of this ITP? Thi
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 05:21:56PM +, David Pashley wrote:
> On Dec 08, 2004 at 17:15, Luis R. Rodriguez praised the llamas by
> saying:
> >
> >
> > Its been more than a year now. What's the status of this ITP? This is
> > ridiculous. If you can't package it, then say so so others can come i
On Dec 08, 2004 at 17:15, Luis R. Rodriguez praised the llamas by
saying:
>
>
> Its been more than a year now. What's the status of this ITP? This is
> ridiculous. If you can't package it, then say so so others can come in
> and do the job. We deserve a freedesktop.org package by now in debian.
Its been more than a year now. What's the status of this ITP?
This is ridiculous. If you can't package it, then say so so others can
come in and do the job. We deserve a freedesktop.org package by now in
debian.
Get off your ass.
Luis
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GnuPG Key fingerprint = 113F B290 C6D2 0251 4D
I'm replacing files in the maintainer script of a
package, but I would like to maintain backups of these
files. Is there any good practice about that (eg: like
renaming the old file to filename~ or filename.old)?
I would also like to know if dpkg makes any backups
when installing packages, and if
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 02:06:26PM +0100, Lo?c Minier wrote:
> Eric Lavarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Wed, Dec 08, 2004:
>
> > To summarize, I think recommending SVG would require a change to the policy.
>
> It's defined in the _Menu_ Policy. I think the people maintaining the
> Debian menu system
It is one thing spiritedly to argue a point against
friends and allies. It is another to be obstinate. I
do not wish the latter, and I admit that I am both
outnumbered and outreasoned today. Please permit me
without malice to conform my position, which now might
be stated as follows.
Unicode
Eric Lavarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Wed, Dec 08, 2004:
> To summarize, I think recommending SVG would require a change to the policy.
It's defined in the _Menu_ Policy. I think the people maintaining the
Debian menu system are best placed to tell what should be allowed or
not.
Additionally,
Hi,
isn't the actual underlying problem that the Debian Policy only accepts
XPM icons (and lintian with it)? I don't know the background of this
decision, but could imagine:
- broad acceptance (aside from GNOME and KDE), PNG should be fine on this
one, SVG not yet.
- text oriented format: SVG OK,
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 09:31 -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 12:00:14AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:17:46AM -0300, Fabricio Cannini wrote:
> > > --- Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > escreveu:
> > > > Am 2004-12-07 10:39:42, schrie
Le mardi 07 dÃcembre 2004 Ã 23:51 -0500, James A. Treacy a Ãcrit :
> SVG use is increasing and I have seen nothing in Debian about how they
> should be handled. So,
I don't think that's much different from PNG icons.
> What is the proper way to handle svg icons?
> For example, where should they b
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:57 +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 December 2004 07:42, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > Fortunately, though, pictures of naked dogs are *not* considered
> > > > to be appealing to prurient interests. Unless, *maybe*, a hyper-
> > > > horny 1
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 12:00:14AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:17:46AM -0300, Fabricio Cannini wrote:
> > --- Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > escreveu:
> > > Am 2004-12-07 10:39:42, schrieb Fabricio Cannini:
>
> > > > Me wonders if simply NOT installing hot
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:12:35 -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package,
>> would it be easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would
>> really be nice.
>>
> I just do not see that we have th
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 05:56:54PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
> > But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given
> > special status over the national chars found in other
> > languages spoken by project members. Debian should be
> > using either ASCII, or Unicode; standardizing on
> > L
On 8 Dec 2004, at 8:53 am, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
The discussion about common carriers is all very interesting, but
irrelevant. There are many protections in American law, and common
carrier status is only one. We are certainly not responsible for
things which are not obscene, and the package
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:12:50AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> > I failed in ending this thread when I posted
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00016.html
> >
> > instead I caused two trolls making even mor
Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Anyway the solution seems to be overengineered for the problem at
> hand. I have yet to decide whether
> * I'll close the bugreport with "request denied"
Please don't do that but tag it wontfix instead if you "won't fix" this
bug report.
Regards,
Joey
--
Open
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 07:42, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > Fortunately, though, pictures of naked dogs are *not* considered
> > > to be appealing to prurient interests. Unless, *maybe*, a hyper-
> > > horny 13 year old boy is seeing a picture of dogs copulating, and
> > > n
The discussion about common carriers is all very interesting, but
irrelevant. There are many protections in American law, and common
carrier status is only one. We are certainly not responsible for
things which are not obscene, and the package in question is not
obscene (b/c under US law a carto
Warniong : I'm not an Ordained Debian Developper (TM) : my words are
just those of a Debian User, worried by this new upsurge of hair
splitting, US smelling madness.
> Hi again,
>
> perhaps to bring down the conversation to something more constructive,
> I think we should base decision to have s
On 2004-12-07 Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 2004-11-24 Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Package: findutils
[...]
>>> It would be nice if the daily find run could be moved behind the
>>> logrotate and sysklogd runs (maybe as zz_find)
[zz_find is ugly
also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.08.0909 +0100]:
> Generally the dpkg-* namespace is reserved for features that are
> intended for integration into dpkg at some point.
well, by all means then. If dpkg-repack and dpkg-www are intended
for integration into dpkg, then reve
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 18:13 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> I needed a tool to change the version number of DEB files after
> repacking them with dpkg-repack. So I wrote one. Very simple, does
> not really warrant its own package, but devscripts is also not
> really the place for it. It is unlikel
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:17:46AM -0300, Fabricio Cannini wrote:
> --- Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> escreveu:
> > Am 2004-12-07 10:39:42, schrieb Fabricio Cannini:
> > > Me wonders if simply NOT installing hot-babe
> > > wouldn't fix this.
> > > IMO Seems to be the easiest solution.
Quoting Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> very strict regarding anything regarding Nazism.
s/Nazism/Crimes against Mankind (or whatever it should be properly
called in English...original version is "apologie de crimes contre
l'humanité")
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, Bill Allombert wrote:
So we could:
move kdm:/usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/
to menu-xdg:/usr/share/xdg/sessions/
Perhaps a stupid question because I do not understand all this menu stuff:
Would this (together with Gnome 2.8) fix the user menus in Gnome???
This would be reall gre
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