Re: BTS and maintainer changes

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:05:44AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > I recently adopted autotrace, and had a package with an updated > control file uploaded; it has now been in the archive for several > days. I am in the same situation with hostname. > Nevertheless, the BTS persists in giving the Q

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Keegan Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What drives the assertion that "demons are evil?" I'm neither religious > or highly educated on the matter, but I've never really thought of them > as such. Other summaries in this thread have pointed out their > neutrality. Can you provide some refere

BTS and maintainer changes

2003-12-15 Thread Henning Makholm
How quickly is a change of maintainer supposed to propagate to the BTS? I recently adopted autotrace, and had a package with an updated control file uploaded; it has now been in the archive for several days. I have checked that I am correctly listed as maintainer in the unstable Sources file and i

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Nunya
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:30:52AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:19:58PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:03, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Demons are evil, and the BSD mascot is a demon (albeit a stylised > > > > Below is the first de

Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-15 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > However, this does not work for asian input methods. Especially the > > asian IMs are the ones which depend on the locale. They shouldn't > > do it. > > That's why I suggest my way. I have one UXTerm for English which to > not activate IM. I can

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:19:58PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:03, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Demons are evil, and the BSD mascot is a demon (albeit a stylised > > Below is the first definition provided by the "dict daemon" command in Debian. > > From The

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:03, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What would be unacceptable about it, and why is it only a "borderline" > > case? What would push it over the borderline? > > Demons are evil, and the BSD mascot is a demon (albeit a stylised Below is the first definition provid

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > However, I am not (nor do I believe a majority might be) that > experimental should duplicate unstable, with only a few packages (the > experimental ones) being newer. However, with the pool structure > archive, this might not actually mean a duplicatio

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] > why is the md5sums file useless and space wasting especially in > terms of security? until now, I was of the opinion, that the md5sum > gives me the guarantee that a debian package is not penetrated > before installation No, that's what the checksum of the entire .deb

Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:24:54AM +0800, Arne Goetje wrote: > I suffer from the same problem, too. I'm using chinese, english and > german. However, the problem does not get fixed by changing the locale > all the time... this should not be done anyways. Yes. > IMHO the local setting should re

Bug#224099: ITP: snownews -- Text mode RSS newsreader

2003-12-15 Thread Joe Nahmias
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: snownews Version : 1.4.1 Upstream Author : Oliver Feiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://home.kcore.de/~kiza/software/snownews/ * License : GPL2 Description : Text mode RSS newsreader Snownews is a conso

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:40:11PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > >> Branden's second proposal of using something from Pratchett did have a > >> nice ring to it, and then there's always the

Re: mozilla 1.6b

2003-12-15 Thread Hartmut Figge
Adrian Bunk: > E.g. Mozilla defaults to Gtk 1.2, you have to give an explicit configure > option to compile it with Gtk 2 . Because of http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186789 i don't like gtk2. Hartmut

Re: mozilla 1.6b

2003-12-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 12:06:28PM -0700, Thomas E. Vaughan wrote: >... > I downloaded the source code and compiled Mozilla 1.6b > myself. Unfortunately, the configure script required that I > install libgtk1.2-dev, and no anti-aliasing joy whatsoever > was apparent. I have been assuming that moz

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:03:00PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Demons are evil, and the BSD mascot is a demon (albeit a stylised > one). On the other hand, it's not /intended/ to be evil. In this > particular case, my personal thought on this is that the intent > outweighs the fact that it's a de

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Roger Leigh
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [I am not subscribed to debian -bsd.] > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:30:48PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: >> Nathan Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > I'm not opposed to anything else you've said. I do believe these >> > particular names are a bad

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Roger Leigh
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: >> Branden's second proposal of using something from Pratchett did have a >> nice ring to it, and then there's always the valar. > > Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkie

Re: RFP: intellisense.vim - Intellisense for Vim

2003-12-15 Thread Juhapekka Tolvanen
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, +00:45:17 EET (UTC +0200), Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pressed some keys: > On 2003-12-05 19:34 +0200, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: normal > > http://insenvim.sourceforge.net/front.php > > I took at the sources. Did you try compiling them u

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:44:42PM +0100, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: [...] >> it's a bit different and for different arches. What about the arches >> `all'? Well, I'm maybe a particular case: powerpc + java ;) but it >> could be the same with sparc + perl o

Re: Any Progress?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:21:44AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:43:02PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:12:29AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > > > Can you supply some message-ids or subject lines or something so that we > > > > can investigate? ma

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 05:54, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:07:56AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > | Only GNOME applications should be in the GNOME Applications menu. > > Why?! > Rationale (and a real-world example): Both KDE and GNOME are attempting to make a compl

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> * spamassassin >> * snort >> >> could be considered perishable because their effectiveness is reduced over >> time. Such classed packages should be allowed to be updated in stable, I >> feel. Of course, it could be argued that any package is p

Bug#224081: ITP: ttf-tamil-fonts -- Free TrueType fonts for the Tamil language

2003-12-15 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: ttf-tamil-fonts Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : The Tamil Linux Project * URL : http://www.tamilinux.org/ * License : GPL Description : Free TrueType fonts for the Tamil language This is a set of OpenType

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:03:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:21:30PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: > > I'll suggest Offler (or Om), Foorgol (I don't like Fate) and, um, > > some other god coming

Re: Generating ~/.ssh/known_hosts from LDAP

2003-12-15 Thread Clint Adams
> I couldn't find any way to authenticate db.debian.org when using direct LDAP > (TLS doesn't seem to be supported), but nonetheless this is damn convenient. > > (requires python-ldap) Or, for people who don't want python installed. #!/bin/zsh for i in ${(M)${(ps:\n\n:)${"$(ldapsearch -LLL -x -h

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Wilson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:44:42PM +0100, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If this would lead to more developers and beta-testers being able to > > use experimental, then I think this would be a good idea. People might > > upload there newer more in-development

Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread werner . thoeni
goswin, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc) > > Package: general > > Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12 > > Severity: normal > > Tags: security > > Every package has a md5sum in the Package file. the answer is not correct. pls see as an exa

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:09:07PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:10PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > Having cheated and grabbed an online resource for it from Google, the > > following possibilities show up (my apologies for the lack of accents; > > I can't easily

Anon UploadQueue and command files

2003-12-15 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hello all, I have tried to upload a package with dupload to the anonymous ftp uploadqueue on ftp-master. Unfortunately dupload fails to upload the files. ncftp /pub/UploadQueue > ls -l php* -rw-r-S---1 2349 8020 Dez 15 18:24 phpsysinfo_2.1-3.diff.gz After this I have tried

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Nathan Hawkins
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:10PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather > > like the notion of using the Valar - they're fictional, and Tolkien's work > > isn't yet out

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Hasler writes: > >> gram writes: >>> Every new package, or every new upload? >> >> Perhaps every upload to Unstable should go to Experimental as well unless >> Experimental already has a newer package (or the same one), but uploads to >> Experimenta

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:10:22PM +0100, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: [...] >> What I'm trying to explain is that I like the idea of an extra pool >> with the buildd and bts but no automatic move to another pool. I >> think, DD and people with chroot can poi

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > > > Of course, I don't really think we should merit religious nonsense with > > the honour of giving name to the products of Debian labour anyway... > > And if we do, le

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Michael Poole
John Hasler writes: > gram writes: >> Every new package, or every new upload? > > Perhaps every upload to Unstable should go to Experimental as well unless > Experimental already has a newer package (or the same one), but uploads to > Experimental should go to Experimental only. Nothing would eve

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread John Hasler
gram writes: > Every new package, or every new upload? Perhaps every upload to Unstable should go to Experimental as well unless Experimental already has a newer package (or the same one), but uploads to Experimental should go to Experimental only. Nothing would ever move from Experimental to any

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Lucas Albers
> Re: Goswin von Brederlow in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why not set it so they are generated when a package is created? Am I understanding correctly? And then they could b gpg signed by the developer??? This adds one more check to the security of the system. I used debsums just a few days to determine if

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Wilson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:10:22PM +0100, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think that's the way it should be. Experimental isn't a complete > > distribution in the sense that the others are, so it doesn't really > > deserve a codename. > > Isn't it possible th

Re: Conflicting manpage for queue.3

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:31:19PM +, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > [ As suggested by Policy 10.1 [1], I am forwarding this issue to > debian-devel. Please maintain the cc list in followups. ] > > Recent versions of manpages-dev include a new manpage queue.3. dqs has > been providing a manpage b

Conflicting manpage for queue.3

2003-12-15 Thread Matthew Wilcox
[ As suggested by Policy 10.1 [1], I am forwarding this issue to debian-devel. Please maintain the cc list in followups. ] Recent versions of manpages-dev include a new manpage queue.3. dqs has been providing a manpage by this name for some time. Therefore there is a file conflict when attem

Bug#224047: general: The upgrade starts the postgresql even if runlevel settings say NO to postgresql

2003-12-15 Thread Marko
Package: general Version: 20031213 Severity: critical After running apt-get upgrade, here is what happens: Setting up postgresql (7.2.1-2woody4) ... Restarting PostgreSQL database: postmaster No /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/postmaster found running;

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:55:03AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > After taking a look at the RC bug count, I don't see debian-installer > holding up things at the moment. Never the less, it has been one of those "must do" items, one of the milestones that needs to be reached before a release is even c

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-15 Thread Jim Gettys
I'd quibble with both "new" and being associated with freedesktop.org; the basic technology appeared in XFree86 4.2 and before. Xft2/fontconfig, the mature version of the technology that will interoperate with all X servers, even those lacking the Render extension, was first released something lik

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:38:37PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Neil McGovern in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I like it too :) > > Thanks :) > > > Prehaps it could be used as a codename for the new unstable when Sarge > > is released as stable? > > That's not the way it works; "Sid" is not "Sar

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:57:45AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:02:54 -0700, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Oddly enough, most FreeBSD sysadmins don't appear to mind doing things much > >more invasive than a dist-upgrade, every six months. This has largely to do > >

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
As an aside, the questions that were sent to Mr. Mewburn have been forwarded to the rest of TNF's Board, and scheduled for discussion on their next conference call (in a couple of days). His personal reaction to the thought of renaming the ports to 'codenames' was quite positive; in his (personal)

Re: problem to unsubscribe

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 22:04, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Hi all, > > I read debian-devel via the newsgroup now (linux.debian.devel) and I'd > like to unsubscribe to the list but I can't. I did receive the > confirmation string and answer it but it seems that I still receive > mails from the list (also

Re: RFP: intellisense.vim - Intellisense for Vim

2003-12-15 Thread Clement Hermann
Martin Pitt wrote: Hi Juhapekka, hi Debianers! On 2003-12-05 19:34 +0200, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: normal I just corrected that to wishlist. http://insenvim.sourceforge.net/front.php I took at the sources. Did you try compiling them under Linux? Things like

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lun 15/12/2003 à 14:56, Colin Watson a écrit : > > This is the kind of services that should be available on the web. > > Making the NEW queue available on the web just like incoming.d.o would > > also be valuable. > > The NEW queue isn't exported for reasons of US crypto regulations. That > sai

Re: [debian-devel] Re: (last) Assurance measures: AMA (coping with the speed of OSS development)

2003-12-15 Thread Magosányi Árpád
A levelezőm azt hiszi, hogy Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pe?a a következőeket írta: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:21:20PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:50:43PM +0100, Magosányi Árpád wrote: > > What was your intent in posting all of these messages? > > He probably expects

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:51:58PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dim 14/12/2003 à 23:53, Brian May a écrit : > > Is it still possible to run madison to check what versions of a > > specific packages are available? > > > > I am gussing this isn't possible, but I found it very useful. > > Thi

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Goswin von Brederlow in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The md5sum files inside the package as they are now can be generated > at install time by anyone who wishes to have them. Security wise they > are useless and for accidental corruption they are redundant (since > they can be generated at install tim

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 20:57, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > [Whoops, didn't send to the list the first time :-)] > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:03:48PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > LSD is "lysergic acid diethylamide", that's three words and there are three > > variants of BSD. So the only ques

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:50:00AM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: >> since we are discussing codenames for the Debian/*BSD OSs, I noticed >> that the "experimental" distribution doesn't have a codename yet, as >> unstable has with "Sid". > > I think that's

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dim 14/12/2003 à 23:53, Brian May a écrit : > Is it still possible to run madison to check what versions of a specific > packages are available? > > I am gussing this isn't possible, but I found it very useful. This is the kind of services that should be available on the web. Making the NEW qu

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
[Whoops, didn't send to the list the first time :-)] On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:03:48PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > LSD is "lysergic acid diethylamide", that's three words and there are three > variants of BSD. So the only question is which BSD gets which chemical term. What about DragonflyBS

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Neil McGovern in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I like it too :) Thanks :) > Prehaps it could be used as a codename for the new unstable when Sarge > is released as stable? That's not the way it works; "Sid" is not "Sarge+1" but the never-to-be- released development version. Think of it as "version i

Bug#224033: ITP: tamil-gtk2im -- Tamil input method for GTK-2

2003-12-15 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: tamil-gtk2im Version : 06182003 Upstream Author : Dinesh Nadarajah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamilinix/files/keyboard/ * License : BSD Description : Tamil input method for GTK

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:46:27AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Christoph Berg wrote: > > since we are discussing codenames for the Debian/*BSD OSs, I noticed > > that the "experimental" distribution doesn't have a codename yet, as > > unstable has with "Sid". I'd propose to call it "Scud", which

Re: Any Progress?

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:43:02PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:12:29AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > > Can you supply some message-ids or subject lines or something so that we > > > can investigate? master's e-mail doesn't appear to be generally broken. > > > I wonder, t

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:50:00AM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > since we are discussing codenames for the Debian/*BSD OSs, I noticed > that the "experimental" distribution doesn't have a codename yet, as > unstable has with "Sid". I think that's the way it should be. Experimental isn't a complet

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Eric Dorland
* Andrew Pollock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 03:20:27PM +, Scott Minns wrote: > > Hiya all, > > First of all let me introduce myself, my name is Scott Minns, i'm a > > debian user, not a developer. That most likely makes you question why > > i'm using thins mailing l

Re: Any Progress?

2003-12-15 Thread Dominique Devriese
Jamin W Collins writes: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:43:02PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: >> >> I haven't noticed it bouncing but it has yet to process the bug >> email I mentioned in my other post. Also, I have not heard back >> from anyone as to why that might have happened. With the BTS being >>

Re: udev and /sys mounting [was: mounting tmpfs (and sysfs) defaultly in sarge?]

2003-12-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 15, GOTO Masanori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From the view point of libc6 maintainer, it's no problem to merge /sys >mount for /etc/init.d/devpts.sh. The name of devpts.sh should be >renamed to something, though. And it can be also applied for /dev/shm >tmpfs. Another reason is that

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Re: udev and /sys mounting [was: mounting tmpfs (and sysfs) defaultly in sarge?]

2003-12-15 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! On 2003-12-15 10:04 +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > >From the view point of libc6 maintainer, it's no problem to merge /sys > mount for /etc/init.d/devpts.sh. The name of devpts.sh should be > renamed to something, though. And it can be also applied for /dev/shm > tmpfs. That sounds reasonabl

Re: Complaint

2003-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:03:01AM -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:20:15PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > > I get the impression that there is some sort of a "Debian clan" that > > controls some important positions of the Debian project and that is > > protecting itself

Re: Complaint

2003-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:37:34AM +1100, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: > * Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-14 13:20]: > > - As http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-week-big.png shows, there > > are some archs already have a working wanna-build access since days, >

Re: Complaint

2003-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:20:15PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > This is an official complaint about the current buildd situation. > > The situation: > > - Wouter Verhelst wrote on Tue, December 9, 2003 18:40 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and the m68k porters list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get informa

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:47:28PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Nathan Hawkins wrote: > > > Your proposal would change that. I oppose it, and I would oppose it just > > the same if you wanted to call them Loki, Kali or Hitler. (To pick a few > > at random.) Using names of e

Re: Complaint

2003-12-15 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:00:22AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > Sure, people can be overloaded with work, being too busy to answer > > immediatedly, but when this extends to a longer time or is the default > Hell, when they have time to discuss the issue with third parties, then > they also assur

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:30:46PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > * Bruno Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031213 19:50]: > > > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside

Re: Any Progress?

2003-12-15 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:43:02PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: > > I haven't noticed it bouncing but it has yet to process the bug email > I mentioned in my other post. Also, I have not heard back from anyone > as to why that might have happened. With the BTS being broken (or at > least appears to

Re: (last) Assurance measures: AMA (coping with the speed of OSS development)

2003-12-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:21:20PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:50:43PM +0100, Magosányi Árpád wrote: > > I hope that at least some of you were listening. (First I thought > > there would be some feedback, at least like "stop it, this is > > boring!", or "why do you writ

Re: Complaint

2003-12-15 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
Ryan Murray said: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:20:15PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: >> - James Troup wrote then (as a reply I think) on Thu, December 11, 2003 >> 19:34 a mail to m68k-build list to get a status about the m68k buildd >> machines (new ssh key, kernel info, etc.). He then got answer

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-15 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There's the question of botched uploads. I think we've all accidentally >> botched an upload one time or another, and having access to auric means >> we can fix it without having to call on the ftpmasters for help. > It depends on whether the queue da

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-15 Thread Thomas Viehmann
>My point exactly, even though I tried to make it through irony. Which enhances your point for those who understand but might get your voice ignored for those who don't. Maybe I'm just overcautious because I've just experienced a bad case of "vocal minority (1.5%) get's their way because they're m

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:02:54 -0700, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Oddly enough, most FreeBSD sysadmins don't appear to mind doing things much >more invasive than a dist-upgrade, every six months. This has largely to do >with the fact that most upgrades are very smooth, and don't require, s

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:41:13 -0600, Chad Walstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I like the "Debian is ready when it's ready" argument. Two years >between releases may be a bit long for my taste. A year would be nice, >and six months is highly optimistic. Once debian-installer is polished, >things

Re: Complaint

2003-12-15 Thread Ryan Murray
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:20:15PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > - James Troup wrote then (as a reply I think) on Thu, December 11, 2003 > 19:34 a mail to m68k-build list to get a status about the m68k buildd > machines (new ssh key, kernel info, etc.). He then got answers he asked for. One p

RE: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Lucas Albers
Sorry, you are correct. I apologize for the error. > Lucas, not only did you horribly misquote my statement as coming from > Scott, but you also seem to not having read my mail thoroughly. Nowhere > did I suggest that installed packages stop working when "expired", did I? > Please re-read my sugg

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-15 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:20:41PM -0800, Jim Gettys wrote: > I'm afraid I have to educate you: the world has been changing > out from under your feet. > > Any current GTK+, Qt or Mozilla will typically use client side > fonts, which make font servers moot; fonts must be installed in > the file sy

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:54:13PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:07:56AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > | Only GNOME applications should be in the GNOME Applications menu. > > Why?! Yea, I thought that was somewhat odd. The only reason the non KDE items are be

Re: Complaint

2003-12-15 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:07:15AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Unless you are the local administrator of one of the build daemons, I > > doubt you'd have seen any of his attempts at coordination. > He is, and hasn't seen any such attempt. Nor have I, being the DD > responsible for the buildd

Re: Failed build on mips target: need help

2003-12-15 Thread Amit Shah
On Monday 15 Dec 2003 07:21, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:43:53PM +0530, Amit Shah wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm the maintainer of the libfilesys-smbclient-perl module. The mips > > build fails with this error: > > > > dpkg-deb: building package `libfilesys-smbclient-perl' in