Re: How can I help sarge be truly great.

2003-11-09 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:26:31PM +1100, Lex Hider wrote: > Hi, > > I've just returned to debian after a bit of an experimental odyssey > (gentoo, freebsd etc.) and am currently tracking sarge. > > I've used debian on various occassions but never really > contributed (yes I know I should be asha

Re: Bug#219293: ITP: songwrite -- a tablatures editor and player

2003-11-09 Thread Duck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Winston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 15:18, Joe Drew wrote: >> On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 07:41, Duck wrote: >> > Songwrite is a guitar tablature (fingering notation) editor and player, >> > quite similar to TablEdit. >>

Re: Bug#219163: ITP: synaptic-touchpad -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86

2003-11-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:56:04PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 10:03:14AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > There is one unreachable person; IIRC, he was a reasonably major > > contributor. > > Double bummer. Aye; sort of condemns it to external DDKdom. > > I was thinki

[OT] Re: Bug#219293: ITP: songwrite -- a tablatures editor and player

2003-11-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 04:24:19PM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote: > > Songwrite is a guitar tablature (fingering notation) editor and player, > > Perhaps "string and fret notation" instead of "fingering notation"? I don't think anyone who doesn't already know what guitar tablature is is going to

Re: Bug#219281: ITP: pyopenal -- port for Python of the OpenAL library

2003-11-09 Thread Duck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Please rename the package to python-openal and probably pythonX.X-openal > whereas X.X is the Python version built against. The package source name is not at all misleading or conflicting, so i see no real reason to change. Nevertheless, i forgot t

Re: Bug#219251: ITP: ircservices-ptlink -- IRC Services for PTlink IRCd

2003-11-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 03:19:19PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 08:01, Duck wrote: > > ircservices-ptlink provides powerful IRC services (NickServ, ChanServ, > > MemoServ, NewsServ and OperServ) for the PTlink IRC server. Vlinks, > > securemode, guestnicks and logonnews are suppor

Re: Changes in t1lib.

2003-11-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:57:32PM +0100, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > These arguments are good, but... > > All packages which use this library depend on t1lib1. Of course, I can > provide dummy t1lib1 package which depends on libt1-1 but I do not like > this idea. I strongly urge you to overcome

Re: Bug#219163: ITP: synaptic-touchpad -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86

2003-11-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 10:03:14AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 02:52:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:04:21PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:23:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > Er, actually, last I

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-09 Thread Branden Robinson
[snip] Guys, would you *please* move this discussion to -legal, which is a far more appropriate place for it? -- G. Branden Robinson|Somewhere, there is a .sig so funny Debian GNU/Linux |that reading it will cause an [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

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Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-09 Thread Joey Hess
Tom wrote: > Can you point me to the ISO? I tried burning the sarge netinst twice > but was never successful at installing Debian with it. It's the big bold[1] links on the d-i web site: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- see shy jo [1] links may not be big and bold signature

Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-09 Thread Tom
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:31:55PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-09 21:17]: > > > >We are pleased to announce the first beta release of > > > debian-installer, the >new installation system for sarge. > > > > > > We want screenshots! > > > > Seconded

Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-09 21:17]: > > >We are pleased to announce the first beta release of > > debian-installer, the >new installation system for sarge. > > > > We want screenshots! > > Seconded! Try that damn installer and see for yourself. ;-) And report bugs. -- Mart

Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-09 Thread Graham Wilson
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:02:07AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We are pleased to announce the first beta release of debian-installer, the > >new installation system for sarge. > > We want screenshots! Seconded!

Re: Help programming printer

2003-11-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask this question, Unless you are trying to make a Debian package of your port (and then you should really know such things in advance), it'd quite badly incorrect. Debian-devel is for discussions of the development *of* De

Re: libGL.so.1: cannot handle TLS data (nvidia-glx deb issue?)

2003-11-09 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Frederik Dannemare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Frederik Dannemare wrote: >> Hi everybody, the last week or so I have been seeing complains >> about libGL not being able to handle TLS data (whatever that means >> in this context). >> > > forgot to say I'm running Sid, of course... > >> After a lo

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:40:11PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > The packaging method is the whole point. And indeed, some people like > the ability to do standard things like "apt-get source foo" and get > foo's sources. Since you like playing word games... what else do you get when you do

Re: How can I help sarge be truly great.

2003-11-09 Thread David Weinehall
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:26:31PM +1100, Lex Hider wrote: > Hi, > > I've just returned to debian after a bit of an experimental odyssey > (gentoo, freebsd etc.) and am currently tracking sarge. > > I've used debian on various occassions but never really > contributed (yes I know I should be asha

How can I help sarge be truly great.

2003-11-09 Thread Lex Hider
Hi, I've just returned to debian after a bit of an experimental odyssey (gentoo, freebsd etc.) and am currently tracking sarge. I've used debian on various occassions but never really contributed (yes I know I should be ashamed). My question is how can I pitch in and help at the current point to

Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-09 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We are pleased to announce the first beta release of debian-installer, the >new installation system for sarge. We want screenshots! Mike.

Re: libGL.so.1: cannot handle TLS data (nvidia-glx deb issue?)

2003-11-09 Thread Frederik Dannemare
Frederik Dannemare wrote: Hi everybody, the last week or so I have been seeing complains about libGL not being able to handle TLS data (whatever that means in this context). forgot to say I'm running Sid, of course... After a lot of trial'n'error this eventually worked out for me as a solution:

Re: GPM to 1.20.1?

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 09:37:17PM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote: > Is it possible to upgrade GPM in unstable to 1.20.1 (at least) which has > been out for a long time now. It would fix a lot of brokenness in GPM. I would love to see a gpm package that used the current upstream and didn't add lots of dub

libGL.so.1: cannot handle TLS data (nvidia-glx deb issue?)

2003-11-09 Thread Frederik Dannemare
Hi everybody, the last week or so I have been seeing complains about libGL not being able to handle TLS data (whatever that means in this context). For instance, launching xmms gives me: ~$ xmms libGL.so.1: cannot handle TLS data but the app does starts up, however. Today, on the other hand, I tr

Re: problems with dpkg, apt, perl etc. ( wait/waitpid)

2003-11-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:40:31AM +0200, Cristian Rauta wrote: > Donno if it`s because libc6 but look at this errors : > > Hit http://ftp.tiscali.de sid/non-free Release > Err http://ftp.tiscali.de sid/main Sources > Waited, for gzip but it wasn't there > Err http://ftp.tiscali.de sid/contrib S

problems with dpkg, apt, perl etc. ( wait/waitpid)

2003-11-09 Thread Cristian Rauta
Donno if it`s because libc6 but look at this errors : Hit http://ftp.tiscali.de sid/non-free Release Err http://ftp.tiscali.de sid/main Sources Waited, for gzip but it wasn't there Err http://ftp.tiscali.de sid/contrib Sources Waited, for gzip but it wasn't there Err http://ftp.tiscali.de sid/

Re: Version Updating Question

2003-11-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Andreas Metzler wrote: > Herbert Xu wrote: > > Andreas Metzlerwrote: > >> cu and- I would not use an epoch unless I was forced to, > >> ugly package versions go, epochs stay forever -reas > > > You know what, version numbers stay forever too. Well, they would > > if it weren't for

Bug#219869: ITP: gap-tomlib -- GAP table of marks library

2003-11-09 Thread Bill Allombert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gap-tomlib Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : the GAP Group * URL : http://www.gap-system.org/ * License : GPL Description : GAP table of marks library GAP is a system for computational discrete algebra with p

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:32:44 +0800 Cameron Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, Glenn didn't really put many words around his output from timing > bzip2, so any claims about what he was trying to prove are > speculative. The point i was trying to make is that architecture specific optimisat

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
First: STOP putting my private address into the To: line. I read the debian-devel list. #include * Robert Millan [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 07:17:33PM]: > > The only more stupid thing I can imagine in this scope is uploading a > > package called "debian" or "gnu". > > 1) You said before you were concer

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:39:24 + Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apparently you entirely fail to understand then, because that's not > what I said. Please refrain from commenting on issues in a language > which you cannot comprehend. Yes your majesty. There are none so blind as tho

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:31, martin f krafft wrote: > System.map is used to translate addresses into function names, > mainly for debugging and logging. But please correct me if I am > wrong. You forgot to mention that "ps" uses it for displaying the WCHAN, or does that count as "debugging"? -- h

Help programming printer

2003-11-09 Thread jse
I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask this question, my appologies if it is not. I am trying to port an old MS-DOS program and I have run into a stumbling block. The Mess Dos program wrote directly to the printer. I can't seem to find much information on how to print from a pro

Re: Digital Alpha 2100 Sable 233MHz

2003-11-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 15:47, Greg Folkert wrote: > I have a DEC Alpha 2100 Dual Processor with 256MB Memory and ~60GB of > drives space. It currently doesn't have any OS on it (well Tru64 Runtime > Only no User licenses) > > I have a 1.5MBps SDSL line with a pretty good connectivity, but is > shar

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Robert Millan wrote: >On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:30:43PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> If I get a new linux package after doing apt-get ugprade which replaces >> the one for my running kernel, then System.map and the kernel are going >> to be out of sync until I reboot. Which would be bad. > >Ho

Digital Alpha 2100 Sable 233MHz

2003-11-09 Thread Greg Folkert
I have a DEC Alpha 2100 Dual Processor with 256MB Memory and ~60GB of drives space. It currently doesn't have any OS on it (well Tru64 Runtime Only no User licenses) I have a 1.5MBps SDSL line with a pretty good connectivity, but is shared with the business it would be located at. I guess, the qu

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.09.2118 +0100]: > Anyway, discussing this is not useful anymore. I just said I'll > provide it in the package. That won't do. Read Matthew's post carefully. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. k

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.09.2030 +0100]: > If I get a new linux package after doing apt-get ugprade which replaces > the one for my running kernel, then System.map and the kernel are going > to be out of sync until I reboot. Which would be bad. If you install a new

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Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:44:59PM +0100, John Smith wrote: > > > > > > "Standards" are snake oil. > > > > I don't expect everyone to agree that following the Debian de-facto > > standards is a good thing. > Sorry, disagree. _Any_ standard, including a bad one, is OK, if > implemented vigourousl

Re: Changes in t1lib.

2003-11-09 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 12:22:14PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:09:27PM +0100, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > I changed the naming scheme. All binary packages contain version in its > > name, i.e.: t1lib-dev is now named t1lib1-dev. Of course old packages are > Hmm. Why

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:30:43PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > > >But someone claimed there are critical problems with System.map in the way > >my package is upgraded, which is not the case. > > If I get a new linux package after doing apt-get ugprade which replaces > t

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Robert Millan wrote: >But someone claimed there are critical problems with System.map in the way >my package is upgraded, which is not the case. If I get a new linux package after doing apt-get ugprade which replaces the one for my running kernel, then System.map and the kernel are going to be ou

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread John Smith
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 19:20, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:53:59PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 11:28:50PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > > > 2. kernel-image-* contains images in a deb. > > > > > > > > 3. You seem to have a problem with the ker

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:45:37PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > So you're saying that you don't know what System.map is good for? > > > No, but if you actualy cared you'd be telling me instead of asking. > > Sorry, but: If you want to package a linux kernel, you should _know_ > the few basi

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:31:24PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.09.1918 +0100]: > > > So you're saying that you don't know what System.map is good for? > > > > No, but if you actualy cared you'd be telling me instead of asking. > > I think

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Robert Millan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031109 19:25]: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:40:34AM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > * Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-09 14:40]: > > > Actualy, I didn't even bother to provide System.map, and my system > > > works quite well. I can add it if you br

Re: Bug#219163: ITP: synaptic-touchpad -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86

2003-11-09 Thread Keegan Quinn
(As if this ITP hasn't been nit-picked quite enough...) On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:12:19PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote: > Description : Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86 > > An input driver for the XFree86 X server to enable advanced features > of the Synaptics Touchpad incl

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.09.1918 +0100]: > > So you're saying that you don't know what System.map is good for? > > No, but if you actualy cared you'd be telling me instead of asking. I think his point is that you shouldn't attempt to package something as vital as the

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:33:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > BTW, is this not the right moment for the creation of a debian-kernel > (or whatever) mailing list for discussing all this stuff and more ? Yes. But some people are actualy more worried in rising bogus arguments to tear down my ITP

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:53:59PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 11:28:50PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > > 2. kernel-image-* contains images in a deb. > > > > > > 3. You seem to have a problem with the kernel-source-* packges, which > > > I honestly don't foll

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:40:34AM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-09 14:40]: > > Actualy, I didn't even bother to provide System.map, and my system > > works quite well. I can add it if you bring me a reason to do so, > > though. > > So you're saying

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:58:58PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > > No. It will go to unstable. Then pass through the standard process we have > > in Debian to determine wether a package is suitable for stable or not. > > The only more stupid thing I can imagine in this scope is uploading a > p

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:18:34AM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:33:15 + > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please provide carefully documented evidence of the performance gains > > that you are claiming, not handwaving. Evidence of a difference is not > >

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:14:44PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: | That is not a summary of the thread, that is a summary of YOUR | interpretation of the thread. I won't dispute this. :-) | > Eduard: Optimising kernel code doesn't help as other hardware is the | > limiting factor. | | No. The h

Re: Bug#219828: ITP: zope-kinterbasdbda -- A Zope Database Adapter for Interbase/Firebird

2003-11-09 Thread Joe Drew
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 11:07, Nicolas Ledez wrote: > * Package name: zope-kinterbasdbda > Description : A Zope Database Adapter for Interbase/Firebird Drop the leading 'A'. > The kinterbasdbDA is a Interbase 6 / Firebird 1 database adapter for > Zope 2.5.x based on the kinterbasdb. The D

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:53:26AM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:33:15 + > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We're all very interested in *real* evidence here, because there > > hasn't been any in the past. If you don't have any evidence, you can > > expect

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Tobias Wolter [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 04:52:54PM]: > On 2003-11-09T16:19:21+0100 (Sunday), Eduard Bloch wrote: > > * Tobias Wolter [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 03:47:15PM]: > > >> # time bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null > > > [...] > > >> # time /tmp/bzip2-1.0.2/bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null > > >> D

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Cameron Patrick [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 11:52:41PM]: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:37:11PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > | #include > | * Michael Poole [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 09:22:13AM]: > | > Eduard Bloch writes: > | > > | > > Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the > |

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue, assuming that user is never right

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:59:39PM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 01:58:29PM +0100, Mateusz Papiernik wrote: > >> Andrew Suffield wrote: > >> >We're all very interested in *real* evidence here, because there > >> >hasn't bee

Bug#219828: ITP: zope-kinterbasdbda -- A Zope Database Adapter for Interbase/Firebird

2003-11-09 Thread Nicolas Ledez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: zope-kinterbasdbda Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : mw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://zope.org/Members/mwoj/kinterbasdbDA * License : ZPL 1.0 Description : A Zope Database Adapter for Interbase/Firebird

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 11:28:50PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > 2. kernel-image-* contains images in a deb. > > > > 3. You seem to have a problem with the kernel-source-* packges, which > > I honestly don't follow. > > Do you understand what standarisation means? "Creation of an arbi

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Tobias Wolter
On 2003-11-09T16:19:21+0100 (Sunday), Eduard Bloch wrote: > * Tobias Wolter [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 03:47:15PM]: > >> # time bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null > > [...] > >> # time /tmp/bzip2-1.0.2/bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null > >> Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the > >> ap

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:37:11PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: | #include | * Michael Poole [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 09:22:13AM]: | > Eduard Bloch writes: | > | > > Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the | > > application code and other two maybe from the optimized libc? There i

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 01:03:16PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 01:24:16PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > I welcome this experiment in a new package of the Linux kernel. I will > > be observing its progress in the coming months. > > > > Unlike other core components of

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Tobias Wolter [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 03:47:15PM]: > > # time bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null > [...] > > # time /tmp/bzip2-1.0.2/bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null > > Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the > > application code and other two maybe from the optimized l

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Tobias Wolter
On 2003-11-09T14:46:38+0100 (Sunday), Eduard Bloch wrote: > # time bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null [...] > # time /tmp/bzip2-1.0.2/bzip2 -9 < out.wav > /dev/null > Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the > application code and other two maybe from the optimized libc? You

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Michael Poole [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 09:22:13AM]: > Eduard Bloch writes: > > > Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the > > application code and other two maybe from the optimized libc? There is > > not{hing| much} we have won using an optimised kernel. But the place

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-09 14:40]: > Actualy, I didn't even bother to provide System.map, and my system > works quite well. I can add it if you bring me a reason to do so, > though. So you're saying that you don't know what System.map is good for? -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL P

Searching for mails in BTS by message-ID

2003-11-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, Does anybody know a way to find a mail sent to the BTS with a specific Message-ID? Neither google nor lists.d.o. nor gmane.org archive debian-bugs-(rc|dist). The reason why I need that is that echelon only shows date, list and message-id. cu andreas -- Hey, da ist ein Ballonau

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Michael Poole
Eduard Bloch writes: > Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the > application code and other two maybe from the optimized libc? There is > not{hing| much} we have won using an optimised kernel. But the placebo > effect has been demonstraded once again. You have not shown wh

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:46:38PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: | Do you see now that 8 of your 10 percent come directly from the | application code and other two maybe from the optimized libc? There is | not{hing| much} we have won using an optimised kernel. But the placebo | effect has been demons

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:50:33PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > > Sure. My users are those who like the advantages described in: > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200311/msg00414.html > [...] > > This *IMHO* does not include a reason good enough to justify a 30MB

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Robert Millan [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 02:40:11PM]: > > Oh, then keep your packages in p.d.o/~rmh/whatever please. Because > > that's Debian hosting them. Which is what Herbert said, nothing more, > > nothing less. > > No. It will go to unstable. Then pass through the standard process

Re: Bug#219163: ITP: synaptic-touchpad -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86

2003-11-09 Thread Mattia Dongili
retitle 219163 ITP: xfree86-driver-synaptics -- Synaptics TouchPad driver for XFree86 stop On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 02:52:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:04:21PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:23:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [..

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 07:18:17PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: [...] >> I think it's more than justified to ask you who you think your users >> are. > Sure. My users are those who like the advantages described in: > http://lists.debian.org/debian

Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Glenn McGrath [Sun, Nov 09 2003, 05:09:32PM]: > > What does that mean? Gentoo uses a heavily patched kernel which goes > > far beyound of what we dicuss > > I was in a debian chroot under a gentoo system hence both tests used the > same kernel. But different programs. As said by oth

Re: GPM to 1.20.1?

2003-11-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to upgrade GPM in unstable to 1.20.1 (at least) which has > been out for a long time now. It would fix a lot of brokenness in GPM. > There was a previous discussion in March about this topic, nothing ever > came of it. > http://lists.debian.or

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 07:18:17PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > > Do you understand what standarisation means? > > Is that your problem? Having source distributed in binary packages? > Then please tell me what your problem with kernel-package is, because > that's even better than

Re: Bug#219719: ITP: gnome-jabber -- A Jabber client for GNOME

2003-11-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian D.B. Krause) a tapoté : > Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 05:19, Sebastian D.B. Krause wrote: >>> * Package name: gnome-jabber >>> Description : A Jabber client for GNOME >> >> Drop the leading 'A'. > > Ok. > >> Is all that distin

Re: Bug#219719: ITP: gnome-jabber -- A Jabber client for GNOME

2003-11-09 Thread Sebastian D.B. Krause
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 05:19, Sebastian D.B. Krause wrote: >> * Package name: gnome-jabber >> Description : A Jabber client for GNOME > > Drop the leading 'A'. Ok. > Is all that distinguishes this client that it is written using GNOME > libraries? If

Re: Changes in t1lib.

2003-11-09 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:48:29PM +0100, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:35:55PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > > If you're renaming them anyway, why not follow Policy 8.1 and > > s/t1lib/libt1-/ (yielding libt1-1, etc.)? > Yes, I thought about it. But there is no strict ru

Re: Version Updating Question

2003-11-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> cu and- I would not use an epoch unless I was forced to, >> ugly package versions go, epochs stay forever -reas > You know what, version numbers stay forever too. Well, they would > if it weren't

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Re: On linux kernel packaging issue, assuming that user is never right

2003-11-09 Thread Martin Schulze
Mathieu Roy wrote: > Why do you always assume being facing idiots? I guess the answer would be experience... No, I'm only guessing, not knowing... > People knows all about placebo effect, but do you have any evidence > that there is nothing more than placebo effect? If you can't provide evidenc

Re: Version Updating Question

2003-11-09 Thread Martin Schulze
Mark Johnson wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm updating the docbook-simple package from V1.0cr2 to V1.0. Since > 1.0cr2 > 1.0, I'm not sure how to handle the situation. > > Policy & the Developers Reference imply that I upload V1.0 and file a > bug against ftp.debian.org to have V1.0CR2 removed from the >

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Re: On linux kernel packaging issue

2003-11-09 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 01:13:09 +0100 Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What does that mean? Gentoo uses a heavily patched kernel which goes > far beyound of what we dicuss I was in a debian chroot under a gentoo system hence both tests used the same kernel. Its irrelevent, but the kernel i