Re: visual c

2001-12-31 Thread Francois Gouget
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: [...] > there is also a number of other libraries (for GUI), I don't think you > have to use ms libs, you can use e.g. wxwindows, qt etc..., also, if the > application doesn't have complicated gui the porting might be fairly > easy... (it also depends on ho

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 05:09:06PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Unmaintained, unused, and untested packages are in Debian. > If no one uses these packages, bugs won't be filed. If no one uses the package, the bugs are not a problem! :-) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMA

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 11:51:44AM -0500, Jeff Teunissen wrote: > > The stuff outside I have done. Back in March or so I designed a nice, > > complex, and complete system for handling gamedata. It would work as > > long as an engine using it had fs_* Cvars and config files. Unless of > > course

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 2:08 pm, Tuesday, January 1 2002, Tollef Fog Heen mumbled: > | It then un'tar's the base tarball into /target, makes Linux bootable if you > | said it could, and then reboots. > > There is no base tarball for woody; it then runs debootstraps which > unpacks the .debs. > Okay, I should add th

Some Crazy and Happier Ideas for 2002

2001-12-31 Thread
Hi, I hereby restart my long-forgotten, yet ancient, tradition of posting ridiculous mails to this newsgroup. Why ? I believe in the allmighty power of self-organisation :P And have to work till 11pm 31/12/01 until 07am today 01/01/2002. I'm not looking to cause flame-wars, rants or what so eve

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, Le Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 06:50:16PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw écrivait: > It's quite easy to say that you can find dozens of such packages. Please > be specific, and post the name of those packages/maintainers (take it to > -private, if you want) but I honestly don't believe that there are many > ba

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:51:20PM -0600, Colin Watson écrivait: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 06:43:57PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > I don't agree. In a perfect world, yes, we would have all available > > software packaged for debian and all packages maintained. But that's > > just not reality. It

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Ganesan R
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > It can't be larger than 255 (precisely because it is limited to a single > byte). > > The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to always explicitly > declare all char variables as signed or unsigned; otherwise, you're just

EVMS: shared libraries with unversioned sonames

2001-12-31 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:33:26PM -0600, Kevin Corry wrote: > On Friday 28 December 2001 23:48, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > I have already grabbed the latest release and started work on evms > > packages for Debian, though I haven't touched them for over a week since > > I have been away. I should

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Greenland
On 31-Dec-01, 16:30 (CST), Peter Finderup Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 31 Dec 2001, Colin Walters wrote: > > No, the C standard guarantees that a char is exactly a single byte; i.e. > > sizeof(char) == 1. > > I think he meant "wider than one would think"-character. A char didn't > origin

Re: /var/lib/dpkg/status file woes

2001-12-31 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Hereward Cooper wrote: > I'm in a strange situation, something (the last program I installed was fligh > gear) caused my /var/lib/dpkg/status file to be deleted. Meaning > apt/dpkg/dselect is unable to determin what packages are installed. I managed > to > manually write in t

/var/lib/dpkg/status file woes

2001-12-31 Thread Hereward Cooper
I'm in a strange situation, something (the last program I installed was fligh gear) caused my /var/lib/dpkg/status file to be deleted. Meaning apt/dpkg/dselect is unable to determin what packages are installed. I managed to manually write in the details of debconf and dpkg so that packages would ac

Re: [Evms-devel] Re: RFP: EVMS

2001-12-31 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:33:26PM -0600, Kevin Corry wrote: > On Friday 28 December 2001 23:48, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > I have been using LVM for some time, and I am eager to start working > > with EVMS. Once I have working packages, I will be migrating some of my > > LVM volumes to EVMS using

Question about cdrecord and -audio

2001-12-31 Thread Adam Majer
Hi all, I'm hopping that someone has some experience with audio CD recording and can help me a bit. I can record data CDs without any problems but if I try the audio option I get the following output mira:/tmp# cdrecord -dev=0,0 -dummy -audio -pad t.iso Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyri

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Peter Finderup Lund
On 31 Dec 2001, Colin Walters wrote: > > and there's a small possibility that char could be some weird wide > > character thing, > > No, the C standard guarantees that a char is exactly a single byte; i.e. > sizeof(char) == 1. I think he meant "wider than one would think"-character. A char did

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 05:40, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > I believe that the author (Knuth) presumably thought "c should only be > > between 0 and 127, probably not even that far, and we're using c as an > > array index, where we've only

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Colin Walters may or may not have written... [snip] > No, the C standard guarantees that a char is exactly a single byte; i.e. > sizeof(char) == 1. Yes, but who's to say that a byte is 8 bits wide? :-) -- | Darren Salt | linux (or ds) at | nr. Ashington, | Linux PC, Risc PC

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 05:40, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > I believe that the author (Knuth) presumably thought "c should only be > > between 0 and 127, probably not even that far, and we're using c as an > > array index, where we've only

Re: Bug 99208

2001-12-31 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If only the location but not the contents of the files changed from > potato to woody, you can use the prerm to copy/move the files to the > new location before dpkg realizes they didn't previously exist. > > If both the location and the contents change

Re: Bug 99208

2001-12-31 Thread Santiago Vila
On 30 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Please take a look at #99208 in the BTS, and give me some advice. > > The complaint is that there are a bunch of files in xpuzzles that > needed to be marked conffiles, but were not. Then, when that was > fixed, the result was that a whole bunch of fi

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread elf
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to always explicitly > declare all char variables as signed or unsigned; otherwise, you're just > asking for latent bugs. IMHO, this is a peculiar statement. The type 'char' is best

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 05:40, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I believe that the author (Knuth) presumably thought "c should only be > between 0 and 127, probably not even that far, and we're using c as an > array index, where we've only allocated 256 chars for this array. Right. Then it should be explic

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:34:56PM +, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 08:19:24PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > Are we trying to force users to use binary packages that even the > > maintainer of the package has not tried to install/run ? > > We do all the time. I expect the ma

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Joseph Carter wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 07:02:43AM -0500, Jeff Teunissen wrote: > > > Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the > > > debian packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging > > > in the quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember th

Re: How to put files at a location determined at install-time.

2001-12-31 Thread Marc L. de Bruin
David Z Maze wrote: Marc L de Bruin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MLdB> What I am trying to build are a couple of packages (let's call one of MLdB> these mydata.deb) containing just ordinary files, related to a MLdB> specific application. All these packages Depend on a generic MLdB> configuration pac

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread dman
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:20:14PM +1100, Penguin wrote: | How does it work? Broad overview: does it install a root filesystem and | simply do a huge cp /mnt/cdrom/package /wherever then configure, or what? It depends on what you tell it to do. It does all the basic setup of a system (partition

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Kowalik | It then un'tar's the base tarball into /target, makes Linux bootable if you | said it could, and then reboots. There is no base tarball for woody; it then runs debootstraps which unpacks the .debs. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who it

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 1:53 am, Tuesday, January 1 2002, Penguin mumbled: > How does it work? Broad overview: does it install a root filesystem and > simply do a huge cp /mnt/cdrom/package /wherever then configure, or what? > As I understand it, when you partition a drive, it mounts the too-be root partition as /t

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 07:02:43AM -0500, Jeff Teunissen wrote: > > Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the debian > > packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging in the > > quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember that when knghtbrd > > decided to

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 08:19:24PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Are we trying to force users to use binary packages that even the > maintainer of the package has not tried to install/run ? We do all the time. I expect the majority of the packages on the machine I'm typing this on have not bee

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Junichi! You wrote: > Unmaintained, unused, and untested packages are in Debian. > If no one uses these packages, bugs won't be filed. > No bugs filed is not a status of well-being. But OTOH no bugs is neither an indication that the package is not being used. -- Kind regards, +-

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:59:04 + Mark cum veritate scripsit : > Conversely, I would sometimes like to be able to get my arch-specific > and arch-independant packages built by the build daemons in order to > detect build time errors that don't show up on my own system (missing > build deps, for e

Re: What config file for a .pm perl module ?

2001-12-31 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:16:03AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 03:02:29PM +0100, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: > > my %virtual1 = {}; > [...] > > $virtual1->{$user[0]}->{$fields[$_]} = $user[$_]; > [...] > > When running the script using this module, I get this

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread John R. Daily
At (time_t)1009793105 "John H. Robinson, IV" wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:59:04AM +, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > Conversely, I would sometimes like to be able to get my arch-specific > > and arch-independant packages built by the build daemons in order to > > detect build time errors tha

Re: What config file for a .pm perl module ?

2001-12-31 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:53:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 01:11:15PM +0100, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: > > print Dumper($virtula1); > > [...] > which is pretty much the structure you wanted. > > > > other comments: > > i still think you should use a field s

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Joey Hess wrote: > > Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the debian > packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging in the > quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember that when knghtbrd > decided to remove quakeforge packages from debian, it was becau

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 11:09:50PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 17:02, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > This package is correct as is, and the warning is harmless; the line > > of code involved is: > > > > return (c<0||c>255)? unexpected_char: icode[c]; > > > > where c is a char ex

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 12:08:30PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Michael Bramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011231 10:35]: > > yesterday I add a new status pages on request of a maintainer: > > http://ddtp.debian.org/pdesc/maintainer/<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Your

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:14:15 +0100 Josselin cum veritate scripsit : > I don't think all these packages should be swept out. Unmaintained > packages that don't have bunches of bugs shouldn't be a problem, for > example. No, it's a serious problem. Unmaintained, unused, and untested packages are

Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Penguin
How does it work? Broad overview: does it install a root filesystem and simply do a huge cp /mnt/cdrom/package /wherever then configure, or what? Thx :) -- Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Girls are for pleasure; boys are for ecstasy."

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Michael Bramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011231 10:35]: > yesterday I add a new status pages on request of a maintainer: > http://ddtp.debian.org/pdesc/maintainer/<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Your packages file is outdated. This page lists me as the maintainer for a package of which

Re: How to put files at a location determined at install-time.

2001-12-31 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:23:55 +0100 > "Marc" == Marc L de Bruin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marc> Marc> So, to be more precise: debconf asks the user for that location, and Marc> puts it in the debconf-database at myapp/thelocation. Now, when Marc> installing mydata.deb, it should read the

Harden

2001-12-31 Thread Edi STOJICEVIC
Hi, I would like to have some information about harden ? Where can i find how to use and configure it ? Thnx +==+ | Why Reboot ?? | | Use Debian GNu/Linux | | www.debianworld.org| +==+

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:05:05AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > a clean chroot will solve that one for you. besides, the buildd's may > still have an un-listed build dependency, from a previous build. It would still be nice to have the external check. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 11:23:19AM +0100, Noel Koethe wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dez 2001, Michael Bramer wrote: > > > The point is to collect all informations about reports in a place that > > > is well known, easy to know for new developers (i.e. readable in the > > > developers reference) and kept up t

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Noel Koethe
On Mon, 31 Dez 2001, Michael Bramer wrote: Hello, > > The point is to collect all informations about reports in a place that > > is well known, easy to know for new developers (i.e. readable in the > > developers reference) and kept up to date. > > yesterday I add a new status pages on request o

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:59:04AM +, Mark Brown wrote: > > Conversely, I would sometimes like to be able to get my arch-specific > and arch-independant packages built by the build daemons in order to > detect build time errors that don't show up on my own system (missing > build deps, for exa

Re: L10n of Debconf templates

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:59:33AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > there are 2 ways for a package maintainer to deal with l10n-ed Debconf > templates: either put all translations in a single file, or separate each > language in its own template file. > The former has a severe drawback, because when E

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 03:26:10AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Jonathan Hseu wrote: > > - Wouldn't the binaries be more trusted if they came from auto-builders > > anyways? > > So that way a maintainer can't just stick something in there that's not in > > the > > source code.

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:25:57PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:52:25PM +0100, Noel Koethe wrote: > > > As a debian developer, I like an easier way to find and keep up with > > > all the nice reports out there keeeping track of me. I think it would > > > help myslef

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Jonathan Hseu wrote: > Last I asked on #debian-devel, source-only uploads aren't allowed (as in, you > can't just upload the orig.tar and the diff. With auto-builders in place, is > there any reason why? They are allowed. See pine. > There are reasons why source-only uploa

Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Jonathan Hseu
Last I asked on #debian-devel, source-only uploads aren't allowed (as in, you can't just upload the orig.tar and the diff. With auto-builders in place, is there any reason why? There are reasons why source-only uploads should be preferred, some being: - The package can be compiled on boxes that

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:12:25AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the debian > packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging in the > quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember that when knghtbrd > decided to remove quakef

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2001-12-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Joey Hess
Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the debian packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging in the quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember that when knghtbrd decided to remove quakeforge packages from debian, it was because of technical problems wit