Debian testing - uninstallable packages

2001-09-15 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
[ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list ] [ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ] [ If there is a more appropriate list for this discussion let me know. ] The debian FAQ (/usr/share/debian/FAQ) says the following: : Packages are i

Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 01:53:03PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > On Sat 15 Sep 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: > > As of the next dinstall/testing run (a few hours away yet) there'll be a > > new set of lines in the update_excuses output [0] (NB: it's now over a MB so > > it's quite long and tedious). T

Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:05:31AM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 01:53:03PM +0200, Paul Slootman uttered: > > Would it be possible to also offer a compressed version of these files > > (update_excuses.html, update_output.txt, etc)? Most browsers can handle > > uncompressing

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:44:23PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 10:30:21PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > It's not that hard to do this for a single package, but it is a completely > > different matter to do it by hand for every newly-installed package. This > > is some

how to install from local mirror?

2001-09-15 Thread Lindsay Allen
I'm trying to do a fresh sid install using my local partial mirror and I get stuck with a debootstrap error "2". The problem is with dists/sid/Release. Is there a script which creates this file? I have tried to create a valid version to match my mirror but had no success. TIA Lindsay -- =-=

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 10:30:21PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > It's not that hard to do this for a single package, but it is a completely > different matter to do it by hand for every newly-installed package. This > is something that frontends should simplify. I have over a thousand packages i

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:18:39PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:46:52PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Currently, most users probably don't read README.Debian unless they have > > a good reason, so while it's the correct place to put things like this, > > they aren't

Re: problems with binary NMU and apt

2001-09-15 Thread Joey Hess
Simon Richter wrote: > Hrm, I just tried to build a package using > > DH_OPTIONS=--dpkg-gencontrol-params=-v0.1-1.0.1 dpkg-buildpackage -B > > In principle this could work, however current debhelper treats > --dpkg-gencontrol-params as equivalent to -u in > Debian::Debhelper::Dh_Getopt, so the -v

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:46:52PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Currently, most users probably don't read README.Debian unless they have a > good reason, so while it's the correct place to put things like this, they > aren't always seen. In the future, though, package management frontends > shou

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:49:34AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > People shouldn't have to sift through a bunch of entries of boring and > meaningless text (to them, at least :) to get such information... The same being true of README.Debian. I like to know what changes on my box, so I can anticipate

Re: Problem with resolv.conf and search list

2001-09-15 Thread Philippe Troin
[moving the discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruno BEAUFILS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is something I do not understand about resolving hostnames. It seems the > search primitive of resolv.conf does not work properly in sid, nor in woody. > > Let's see some of my configuration files : >

Problem with resolv.conf and search list

2001-09-15 Thread Bruno BEAUFILS
There is something I do not understand about resolving hostnames. It seems the search primitive of resolv.conf does not work properly in sid, nor in woody. Let's see some of my configuration files : resolv.conf search lifl.fr univ-lille1.fr iut-info.univ-lille1.fr nameserver

apache-debian going live

2001-09-15 Thread Martin F Krafft
whatever the call is on how we should proceed in terms of Debian apache package task force, i have created a mailing list, webpage, and cvs repository for the crew. you can subscribe at https://lists.madduck.net/mailman/listinfo/debian-apache you can post with debian-apache at pantsfullof

Re: splitting /var/lib/dpkg/status and handling desc translation

2001-09-15 Thread Herbert Xu
Michael Bramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1.) notification mails >This is already fixed. >Verybody can stop the server to send this mails. And I send a No it's not. You have to send an email for every package that you maintain. This is simply unacceptable. If I don't stop receiving t

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Steve Greenland
On 15-Sep-01, 13:24 (CDT), Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 11:11:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > There is already a standard, reliable way of communicating package > > changes to the admin. Amazingly enough, it's called a "changelog". I > > usually find t

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 06:34:38PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 08:24:32PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > We can't really expect the admins to parse through hundreds of > > changelogs; README.Debian would be a good place, though. > > OTOH, apt-listchanges displays the chan

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 06:34:38PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > We can't really expect the admins to parse through hundreds of changelogs; > > README.Debian would be a good place, though. > > OTOH, apt-listchanges displays the changelog upon upgrade, whereas there's > no automated way to displa

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 08:24:32PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > We can't really expect the admins to parse through hundreds of changelogs; > README.Debian would be a good place, though. OTOH, apt-listchanges displays the changelog upon upgrade, whereas there's no automated way to display changes to

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 11:11:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > Your scheme works, but at least tell the sys admin what is going on with > > a debconf note. > > > > If you don't want to be bugged change the debconf priority. > > I've got it set to "high". Apparently a number of maintainers t

why is gtk+extra out of date?

2001-09-15 Thread Bradley Bell
help! I'm the maintainer of gtk+extra (libgtkextra16, libgtkextra-dev) which is quite out of date in testing, and I have no idea why. It has no RC bugs and the dependencies are satisfied. Maybe I'm missing something that someone can clue me into? gtkmm (day 10) sorely needs to make it in as well

Re: problems with binary NMU and apt

2001-09-15 Thread Simon Richter
Package: debhelper Version: 3.0.44 Severity: normal On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Most of the esound packages have a 'esound-common (>= ${Source-Version})' > > dependency in debian/control. Is there any generic solution for the problem? > You could manually tweak debian/substvar

Re: [woodm@equire.com: XFree86 common]

2001-09-15 Thread "Jürgen A. Erhard"
> "Roland" == Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Just a comment... Roland> Branden Robinson (2001-08-30 21:26:18 -0500) : >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 09:40:03PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: >> > Build a fire for a man, an he'll be warm for a day. Set a >> > man on fire, and h

Re: problems with binary NMU and apt

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:41:21AM +0200, Gerhard Tonn wrote: > On Saturday 15 September 2001 07:29, you wrote: > > In my case it's esound-common, which in turn makes the entire gnome tree > > not installable. > > Most of the esound packages have a 'esound-common (>= ${Source-Version})' > depende

Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-15 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, > Would it be possible to also offer a compressed version of these files > (update_excuses.html, update_output.txt, etc)? Most browsers can handle > uncompressing these on the fly and it makes accessing these lists MUCH > faster. As a porter I often use update_excuses for tracking down > packa

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Steve Greenland
On 15-Sep-01, 09:14 (CDT), Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 13-Sep-01, 18:37 (CDT), Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your scheme works, but at least tell the sys admin what is going on with a > debconf note. > > If you don't

Re: Debugging help for dhelp needed

2001-09-15 Thread Christian Marillat
"SH" == Stefan Hornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, fellow Debian developers ! Hi, > dhelp was recently orphaned. IMHO a online help is quite a good idea, > but the code hasn't touched quite a while. > I ported the source code from db1 to db2, which is definitely needed > to make

Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-15 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 01:53:03PM +0200, Paul Slootman uttered: > Would it be possible to also offer a compressed version of these files > (update_excuses.html, update_output.txt, etc)? Most browsers can handle > uncompressing these on the fly and it makes accessing these lists MUCH > faster. As a

Debugging help for dhelp needed

2001-09-15 Thread Stefan Hornburg Racke
Hello, fellow Debian developers ! dhelp was recently orphaned. IMHO a online help is quite a good idea, but the code hasn't touched quite a while. I ported the source code from db1 to db2, which is definitely needed to make it work for woody. Unfortunately dhelp_parse -r get stucked in the seco

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Edward Betts
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13-Sep-01, 18:37 (CDT), Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Debconf question: do you want a symlink. > > Please, no. The fact that debconf provides an easy, consistent way to > interact with the user does not mean that every possible choice

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 06:37:08PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > ...and the new prerm remove it, and future versions of these scripts > > > until the end of ti^W^W^Wrelease after next... > > > > Actually, if you'd also ship the symlink in the new .deb, dpkg would > > remove it. Or am I missin

Re: proposal for an Apache (web server) task force

2001-09-15 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Ardo van Rangelrooij (on Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:06:52PM -0500): > Please do. Something like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or so? I'm still gonna > file against lists.debian.org. Once that is created we can move over. Do you > also support archiving? That would be really great. alright. doing s

Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sat 15 Sep 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: > As of the next dinstall/testing run (a few hours away yet) there'll be a > new set of lines in the update_excuses output [0] (NB: it's now over a MB so > it's quite long and tedious). They look like: Would it be possible to also offer a compressed versio

RMMODing a console font

2001-09-15 Thread Marvin Stodolsky
Debian was easily installed on my Gateway Solo 3500 laptop, with ATI Mach64 Rage Mobility graphics card The best VGA console fonts are obtained by # insmod atyfb providing slim 80x30 fonts. However Xwindows does not stabilize subsequently with this driver active, AND # rmmod atyfb fails because t

Re: root rm: Permission denied - solution found

2001-09-15 Thread Edward Betts
"Tille, Andreas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Edward Betts wrote: > > > I had the same problem, just worked out how to fix it, I used the chattr > > program, see the chattr man page for more details. > Could you please be a little bit more detailed? > > # chattr -V -i postgre

Re: Orphaning all packages

2001-09-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On 14 Sep 2001 16:37:20 +0200, Martin Albert wrote: > > I'm about to take an extended vacation from being a Debian developer, > Think i would miss you, but to take your word: how about prototyping > co-maintenance on publib-dev? With a good upstream ... ;) > Some pkg i happen to have to compile no

Re: problems with binary NMU and apt

2001-09-15 Thread Gerhard Tonn
On Saturday 15 September 2001 07:29, you wrote: > In my case it's esound-common, which in turn makes the entire gnome tree > not installable. Most of the esound packages have a 'esound-common (>= ${Source-Version})' dependency in debian/control. Is there any generic solution for the problem? Reg

Re: problems with binary NMU and apt

2001-09-15 Thread Gerhard Tonn
>Which packages are these? It's probably a bug in the package source, in >that it's coded in such a way that bin-nmu's aren't possible. There're >a bunch of packages like that. (ie, a Depends: otherpkg (= myver) line) In my case it's esound-common, which in turn makes the entire gnome tree not i

sendmail 8.12.0 problem

2001-09-15 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
I installed sendmail 8.12.0 and had problems delivering mail to local users. I get a "Service Unavailable". If I send from the local machine root gets a message indicating that setreuid got a "Operation not permitted". What am I doing wrong? Please reply to me direct since I have not yet resubscri