[Fwd: Exim and DSL]

2000-12-28 Thread Art Edwards
-- Arthur H. Edwards 712 Valencia Dr. NE Abq. NM 87108 (505) 256-0834--- Begin Message --- I'm haveing some difficulty getting my network to accept mail messages. I'm using exim through a cicso router. I have forwarded port 25 to my mail machine. I am able to send mail to anyone. And I can recei

ITP kimberlite - was Re: High Availability..

2000-12-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 28 December 2000 17:23, Michael Boman wrote: > Nate Duehr wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:13:50PM +0200, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: > > > Hello.. > > > Has anyone tried to set up any such debian systems?? I'm thinking of > > > trying to set up two machines sharing the same raid disk

vacation

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
I'll be off for a few days, so I may not be able to answer the posts in RFC: pools... thread. Happy New Year!! -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo

Re: RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Neal H Walfield wrote: > I think that this is a reasonable idea, however, it only addresses a > small part of the problem. I feel that a better solution would be to use > a similar method to perl modules: a hierarchal name space. In fact, we We'll have better than that :) My tool will have a ful

Re: RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
esoR ocsirF wrote: > > Greetings, > IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a > lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different > catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so > far seem to imply adding new fields to the debs, but

Re: RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread Neal H Walfield
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:32:12PM -0800, esoR ocsirF wrote: > Greetings, > IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a > lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different > catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so > far seem to im

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Jim Lynch
Hi, In my (potato) /var/cache is... apache/ apt/ bind/ cracklib/ man/ man2html/ xfstt/ -Jim

Re: Another Grub question/problem

2000-12-28 Thread Brian May
> "Cristian" == Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> cat /proc/cmdline auto rw root=/dev/nfs video=788 >> nfsaddrs=192.168.87.130:192.168.87.129:192.168.87.129:255.255.255.0: Cristian> ^ Cristian> Am I seei

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 06:12:35PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > Same idea, different implementation. It is using (de)compression code that > > is > > shared with other programs. > > Being linked to it statically means it doesn't share the code. T

RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread esoR ocsirF
Greetings, IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so far seem to imply adding new fields to the debs, but his seems like overkill to me.

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Same idea, different implementation. It is using (de)compression code that is > shared with other programs. Being linked to it statically means it doesn't share the code. This increases dpkg code size. > Will we one day see a shared libdpkg, with mo

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:39:04PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > > Not quite. dpkg-deb actually does call out to tar and gzip, and lets those > > programs do what they do best. It doesn't try to be tar and gzip and dpkg > > all > > at once. The UNIX approach is to build tools that do one or a few

Re: 'testing' & dep conflicts

2000-12-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:10:41AM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote: > Hello > > I am running 'testing', upgraded from potato a few days ago. > > Two questions: > > 1. Why are packages kept back like follows? > >$ apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [ snip ] >The following packages have been

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > > Yes, that was kind of my point. > > > > An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its > > functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and may

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Glenn McGrath
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > > Yes, that was kind of my point. > > > > An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its > > functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe > > make to handl

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Yes, that was kind of my point. > > An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its > functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe > make to handle dependancies). Not quite. dpkg-deb

'testing' & dep conflicts

2000-12-28 Thread Sven Burgener
Hello I am running 'testing', upgraded from potato a few days ago. Two questions: 1. Why are packages kept back like follows? $ apt-get update && apt-get upgrade Hit http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Packages Hit http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Release Hi

Re: menu-policy: education

2000-12-28 Thread Philip Brown
[ Ben Armstrong writes ] > > So, for subsections perhaps: > >... > Education/Language > qvocab I'd love an Education/Language section too. I'm not really happy with any of the Menu choices available for my "kdrill" program, which is a vocabulary quiz program,and dictionary for kanji.

Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Martin, in the light of what has been discussed... could you please replicate the bug and report upstream? thanks, -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo

Re: Brian Bassett?

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Michlmayr wrote: > to contact Brian as well. I'm posting to debian-devel now to ask if > anyone knows what's up with Brian. He is alive, He uploaded a package on Dec 3, and his last message to debian-devel was sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Nov 4. Big brother is watching you :)

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:13:32AM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: > $ find /usr/man -exec dpkg -S {} \; |cut -d: -f1 |grep -v , |sort |uniq Just parse a Contents-ARCH.gz file to find all packages that still have /usr/man. Roland -- Roland Bauerschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-28 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-28 Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Christian Kurz wrote: > > |dpkg-scriptlib -- dpkg-perl and dpkg-python (142 days old) > > > > Is any package using functions of dpkg-perl or dpkg-python? If yes, I > > think someone should take care of this packages and the bugs that are in > > the

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 02:08:08PM +, Chad Miller wrote: > I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. > On this box, there are... > > $ find /usr/man -exec dpkg -S {} \; |cut -d: -f1 |grep -v , |sort |uniq [...] > mpg123 Not. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dpkg -l

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:56:37PM +0100, Arthur Korn wrote: > > for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do > > sed [...] bug.template | mail ; > > done > > You'd better use [EMAIL PROTECTED], else you need a very > good asbestos suit ... Too late. }:) BTW your Mail-Followup-To is

Brian Bassett?

2000-12-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Michael Moerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001219 01:30]: > I have tried to talk to Brian Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> directly > several times by email. The first email was sent at least 2 months > ago. The second was sent over than 1 month ago and since I have > sent the third about a week has passed

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Arthur Korn
hi Peter Makholm schrieb: > for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do > sed [...] bug.template | mail ; > done You'd better use [EMAIL PROTECTED], else you need a very good asbestos suit ... ciao, 2ri

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-28 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi Hamish Moffatt schrieb: > Package X and package Y are not truely unrelated if they share any > dynamic libraries, though, eg libc. > > So do you have any suggestion as to how this could actually be > implemented? Even if it's actually desirable (which I dispute), > implementation seems far fro

Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer

2000-12-28 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Martin Schulze wrote: > Daniel Kobras wrote: > > > O: manpages-de -- German manpages > > > > I'd be willing to take them, if it's just for the Debian maintainership > > and fixing the few outstanding bugs. However, Joey, I see you are also > > Please take over Debian maintain

Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer

2000-12-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Daniel Kobras wrote: > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > Below is a listing of packages needing a new maintainer. I know that > > all the information is in the WNPP already, but I thought it would > > be a good idea to post a summary since the WNPP bugs were not CCed > > here. >

Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer

2000-12-28 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Below is a listing of packages needing a new maintainer. I know that > all the information is in the WNPP already, but I thought it would > be a good idea to post a summary since the WNPP bugs were not CCed > here. [...] > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread idalton
Anyway, what does apt-cache not do that you want to have happen?

Re: possible problem with ftp archive

2000-12-28 Thread John O Sullivan
These files include such things as fvwm, koules and xbill. There doesn't seem to be any tools specifically for building packages. I know the source for all the packages is kept under the source directory, but these files aren't in their subcategory directory. eg we have ftp.debian.org/debian/dists

Re: GRUB Questions

2000-12-28 Thread Neal H Walfield
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:58:09PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: > Is there a GRUB mailing list, or is this the proper forum for > GRUB questions? bug-grub@gnu.org -Neal -- Neal H Walfield University of Massachusetts at Lowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp89c6oWkCJo.pgp Descrip

GRUB Questions

2000-12-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Is there a GRUB mailing list, or is this the proper forum for GRUB questions? Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Re: ITA: abuse, abuse-lib

2000-12-28 Thread Arto Jantunen
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:41:03AM -0500, Damian M Gryski wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Edward Betts wrote: > > Arto Jantunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd like to adopt abuse, if that's okay with you. I don't think I can > > > handle > > > the 'only 8bpp'-bug, thought. There is/was a proje

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hmm. sorry to step in here, but On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > My point being, that yes I already use squid as a proxy server for a whole > network of apt-geting debian boxes and after only a little work it works this could also be replaced by NFS, or a small

Re: booting Linux 2.2.18 NFS-Root

2000-12-28 Thread Alexander Shumakovitch
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:08:00PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Branden> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:58:47PM +1100, Brian May > Branden> wrote: > >> I seem to have problems booting Linux 2.2.18 via NFS root > >> image. **2.2.17 works fine**, but 2.2.18 says "No NFS servers > >> avai

Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Chad Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:41:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > BUT gmc (and most possibly mc) will not be > > able to rename stuff, though you can move > > files ;) It's a bug for certain! > > Whoa. I don't understand that; what's the difference between moving and

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
> Chad Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't suppose there's a easy way to submit a batch of bug reports, eh? On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:17:40PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > Just do a > > for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do > sed [...] bug.template | mail ; > done

Re: Another Grub question/problem

2000-12-28 Thread Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
On 28 Dec 2000, Brian May wrote: > > "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hamish> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:23:52PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > >> still haven't tried 2.2.18. The video= options seems to be > >> completely ignored, and Linux boots up as if it wa

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Makholm
Chad Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't suppose there's a easy way to submit a batch of bug reports, eh? Just do a for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do sed [...] bug.template | mail ; done where sed do the right thing. That is an easy way, right? (say yes!)

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
I don't suppose there's a easy way to submit a batch of bug reports, eh? - chad -- Chad Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://web.chad.org/ (GPG) "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced". First corollary to Clarke'

Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Nathan E Norman wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:05:50AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > Martin. Yes. I tried. Do you think I'm a newbie or something? Why > > do you think the file is owned by root? It's on windows partition... > > Hold on ... this is an msdos partition mounted? If so,

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:14:30PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Uwe Hermann wrote: > > Don't file a bug. There's already _at least_ 5 or 6 bugs about this > > problem in the BTS... > > 9 at the moment it seems. Guess you'll have a lot of fun, closing/merging all those bugs :-) Uw

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:17:20PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Chad Miller wrote: > > dpkg > > Looking at the changelog the dpkg manpage were moved to /usr/share/man > in version 1.4.1.5, released Tue, 13 Jul 1999. I just checked and I > have dpkg manpage in /usr/share/man on my sy

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Guenter! On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: > Should I file this as a bug, or could be something wrong with my Perl > installation? This issue has been filed about 10 time (really!) and is resolved in -2 which is currently in incoming (yes, wiggy uploaded a new -2).

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chad Miller wrote: > dpkg Looking at the changelog the dpkg manpage were moved to /usr/share/man in version 1.4.1.5, released Tue, 13 Jul 1999. I just checked and I have dpkg manpage in /usr/share/man on my system. Wichert. -- __

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chad Miller wrote: > I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. > On this box, there are... There are more problems, like packages usage /var/cache which shouldn't exist anymore. Wichert. -- _

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Uwe Hermann wrote: > Don't file a bug. There's already _at least_ 5 or 6 bugs about this > problem in the BTS... 9 at the moment it seems. > There are just two wrong linebreaks in the postinst script. Indeed, a stupid copy&paste error I made. Should be fixed in 5.7.019-2 which is curr

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:58:44PM +0100, Uwe Hermann wrote: > Don't file a bug. There's already _at least_ 5 or 6 bugs about this > problem in the BTS... Alright. > There are just two wrong linebreaks in the postinst script. Ahh, this was indeed a simple problem. Many thanks. Guenter -- Linu

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:02:52PM +0100, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: > Hi, > > yesterday I updated vim-perl from Debian unstable and got > the following error during installation with dselect: [snip] > Should I file this as a bug, or could be something wrong with my Perl > installation? Don't

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:13:32AM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: > I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. > On this box, there are... > [...] > > ...several packages that install stuff in /usr/man . Do these warrant bug > reports? Yep, IMHO. We should be FHS compli

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Vince Mulhollon
Yes, that was kind of my point. An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe make to handle dependancies). My point being, that yes I already use squid as a proxy server for a whole network of apt-getin

vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
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test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. On this box, there are... $ find /usr/man -exec dpkg -S {} \; |cut -d: -f1 |grep -v , |sort |uniq dpkg catdoc cdcd cflow dvidvi electric-fence fakeroot hfsutils libgdbmg1-dev liblockfile1 libmime-base64-perl lsof-2.2 m4 macuti

Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
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Re: Openwall kernel patches

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:18:35PM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote: > Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Has anyone looked into packaging the Openwall patches for the kernel? Their > > licensing is kosher. If nobody else steps up, I'll probably do it. > I wouldn't mind doing it -

Re: Linux Expo in Praha, Budabest, Warsaw & Moscow (was: Linux Expo Road Show)

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
++ 27/12/00 12:21 +0100 - Martin Schulze: > > Debian will have a booth in exhibition. Also we need to be > > reprepresented on all conferences. We need volunteers! BTW, I hope to > > see some non-russian debian developers on Moscow exhibition, because there > > are > > only two of us in .ru. > >

Re: Openwall kernel patches

2000-12-28 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Has anyone looked into packaging the Openwall patches for the kernel? Their > licensing is kosher. If nobody else steps up, I'll probably do it. I wouldn't mind doing it - i'm going to do kernel-patch-int, and openwall fits in nicely.. Greets,

Re: Intent to Orphan: fakebo

2000-12-28 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 08:02:10PM -0600, Gregory T. Norris wrote: > On the more mundane side, it doesn't know how to deal with BO2K, and > upstream development appears to be halted (no mailing-list or CVS > updates updates in a year). Yes. It's unmaintained. More details on the 'Unmaintained Fre

sigs, was: Re: ITA: xmorph

2000-12-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:43:08AM -0700, John Galt wrote: > RTFFYI. It refers to bandwidth > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Marc Haber wrote: > > The four lines rule doesn't apply to bandwidth. It applies to screen > > real estate. no need to quarrel here, historically it applied to *both*.

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 20:17:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Haber) wrote: >I am maintainer for run and console-log, and waiting for NM to >complete. Unfortunately, run has a nasty bug that causes console-log >to hang which in turn may prevent a clean shutdown. I don't have the >expertise to fix this

Re: How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

2000-12-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:49:49 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Younie) wrote: >Or add woody to sources.list and parse the Packages files locally. Since we have a Debian mirror, I decided to locally parse the Packages files on the mirror machine. Greetings Marc -- --

Re: ITP: ttyrec -- a tty recorder

2000-12-28 Thread Joey Hess
Takuo KITAME wrote: > Description: A tty recorder > ttyrec is a tty recorder. A recorded data can be playback with the included > ttyplay command. ttyrec is just a derivative of script command for recording > timing information with microsecond accuracy as well. Hmm, are you aware of bug #68556