On http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/developers.loc , there's supposed
to be a jpeg of a world map with debian developers. On the main
website, www.debian.org, there is.
It seems that the .nl webserver is interpreting the filename
"developers.map.jpeg" as a .map image-map file according to this error
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > Are you also reporting bugs against packages whose priority is higher
> > than that of debconf? Is the plan eventually to raise debconf's priority
> > to 'standard' or higher?
> >
>
> currently, any package which uses debconf depends on it. Since most packages
> ne
Previously Richard A Nelson wrote:
> Would the following work as expected:
> Depends: sendmail (>= 8.9.3), sendmail (<< 8.9.4)
Yes.
Wichert.
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
[snip, commands seem correct]
> This took more than 12 hours and the progress indicator never came
> over 2% done.
> Can someone please tell me what could be the bottleneck and why the second
> rsync took longer that the first one.
If you never got to t
Hi all,
A starnge thing happened while I was rsyncing Debian
binary-i386-1_NONUS.iso from ceu.fi.udc.es .
At first I made a pseudo-image, then I rsynced it using this:
rsync --verbose --progress --stats --block-size=8192
ceu.fi.udc.es::debian-cd/potato/current-iso-images/binary-i386-1_NO
On 01-Sep-00, 15:04 (CDT), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Steve Greenland wrote:
>
> > Those people would be equally well served by a note or check at the
> > beginning of the debian/rules file; we didn't need policy and a new
> > control file headers for that.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Steve Greenland wrote:
> Those people would be equally well served by a note or check at the
> beginning of the debian/rules file; we didn't need policy and a new
> control file headers for that.
>
Alright. What if apt-get source was enhanced so it would pull down any
packag
On 01-Sep-00, 12:10 (CDT), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > I think I miswrote earlier: I wrote "build-essentials" when I should
> > have written "Build-Depends". And I'd wager that the vast majority
> > of the Debian developers have no
"michael d. ivey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I started making personal debs of the everybuddy CVS snapshots because EB
> releases tend to lag pretty far behind the code in CVS. I called my
> package ebsnap, and made it conflict with everybuddy. I put it on my
> site, and that was that.
>
> N
On 01-Sep-2000 Colin Watson wrote:
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I started this afternoon submitting bugs against packages which print
>>verbose output in their maintainer scripts. The future that Debian
>>must take is to fully support debconf. To further this goal I will
>
> But then it might interrupt the installation process. Just as debconf
> asks all of the preinst questions before any of the packages have
> started unpacking, it would be nice to be able to defer any questions
> that *have* to wait for the postinst until the very end, when all of
> the packag
On 01-Sep-00, 02:50 (CDT), Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Actually, we did get an answer - from Lori (Lori's last name escapes my
> memory, but it was the person who sent the message you forwarded) - saying
> that what we are doing with imapd is not against its license and if it
> t
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:57:50AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > I've an outstanding, unanswered question which I've sent to UW in a
> > related context (IMAPD): what specific clause of the copyright is being
> > violated, when modified versions are distributed.
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 200
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:18:26PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > I checked and all the permissions are like they are supposed to be. (BTW,
> > what is the "t" in the permission string "drwxrwxrwt" anyway?)
>
> 't' is the sticky bit. On a directory, it
On Fri, Sep 1, 2000 at 00:22:23 +0200 (+), J.A. Bezemer wrote:
> a. Let gpm default to repeating in raw mode (to solve 6.), and add a very
>clear notice that X should be (re)configured with /dev/gpmdata but using
>the real protocol -- but when gpm is either stopped or removed/purged, t
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 06:24:55PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
> People using unofficial packages should be aware about the
> dificulties. So I wouldn't mention the unofficial packages in control
> files for official Debian packages.
OK. I'll mention it on the website for the unofficial ones.
>
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 04:06:33PM +, michael d. ivey wrote:
> I started making personal debs of the everybuddy CVS snapshots because EB
> releases tend to lag pretty far behind the code in CVS. I called my
> package ebsnap, and made it conflict with everybuddy. I put it on my
> site, and tha
"michael d. ivey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My current idea is everybuddy-cvs, and make it conflict with everybuddy,
> and conflict/replace ebsnap, for the people who may have downloaded
> ebsnap. Is that the correct way to proceed?
People using unofficial packages should be aware about the
I started making personal debs of the everybuddy CVS snapshots because EB
releases tend to lag pretty far behind the code in CVS. I called my
package ebsnap, and made it conflict with everybuddy. I put it on my
site, and that was that.
Now, I've adopted everybuddy and gotten through the NM proce
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Steve Greenland wrote:
[...]
> I think I miswrote earlier: I wrote "build-essentials" when I should
> have written "Build-Depends". And I'd wager that the vast majority
> of the Debian developers have no need at all for Build-Depends.
What about for users who want to rebuild
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:39:05PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
> I don't see why Debian (or GNU, or "Linux") bothers with the IMAPD of
> UofW so much at all. Aren't there quite some replacements by now?
[1] The copyright appears to meet our standards (DFSG).
[2] The only alternative imap daemon doe
Arthur Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a convenient way to put a package on hold? I couldn't
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> included the following in a
message dated Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:43:53 +1000:
> #! /bin/bash
>
> # dpkg-hold -- command line tool to flag package(s)
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Sven Guckes wrote:
>
> I don't see why Debian (or GNU, or "Linux")
> bothers with the IMAPD of UofW so much at all.
> Aren't there quite some replacements by now?
>
Nope. Not that are free software and/or full-featured. Yet we're up to
our armpits in crappy POP3 servers wit
On 31-Aug-00, 16:52 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that you start with a particular version dependency, and then
> only update the dependency if you use new features not present in
> older helper packages.
This can be tricky, as it is easy to use a new feature withou
> I've an outstanding, unanswered question which I've sent to UW in a
> related context (IMAPD): what specific clause of the copyright is being
> violated, when modified versions are distributed.
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 02:46:40PM -0600, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Their position was tha
Hello.
Alisdair McDiarmid schrieb:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 01:49:13PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > you always have the option of using 'apt-get source' to recompile a package,
> > then place it on hold and we wont touch it.
>
> I've tried doing this occasionally -- more often to chang
On 31-Aug-00, 12:43 (CDT), Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 08:29:30PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> > > > Which is just a stupid pain in the ass. I had to track through three
> > > > different references and finally install the "build-depends" package to
Previously Anand Kumria wrote:
> So file a bug. They can do exactly the same thing with dpkg-dev.
dpkg-dev is an extremely stable interface, something you can not
say for debhelper.
Wichert.
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On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 10:38:25AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
>
> dinstall has a bug where if it gets uploaded to frozen it gets removed from
> unstable... Someone just needs to re-uploaded a recompiled version for woody.
>
I *really* should get around to reviewing that patch I did, and apply
* Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000831 20:47]:
> If Debian decides to reject IMAPD and tells the U of W so,
> that will put some pressure on them to clarify the license.
> Otherwise they may prefer to leave it
> unclear in order to to "have it both ways".
I don't see why Debian (or GNU, or
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 04:59:27PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > A thread came up here a little while back about installation scripts
> > sometimes not being able to use debconf for security or other
> > reasons.
>
> That's not particularly accurate.
Sorry ;-)
> > So what a
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Martijn van de Streek wrote:
> > Sep 1 12:13:48 pkfp20 mc: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory
> >
> > I wonder why. Maybe a bug in mc? In fact, /dev/gpmctl exists:
>
> I got these too, with both mc and links. I guess it's a libgpm0-bug.
> Installing (and running) gpm fi
On Fri, 01 Sep 2000, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:
> Sep 1 12:13:48 pkfp20 mc: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory
>
> I wonder why. Maybe a bug in mc? In fact, /dev/gpmctl exists:
I got these too, with both mc and links. I guess it's a libgpm0-bug.
Installing (and running) gpm fixed it for
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 04:35:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:04:23AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:37:01PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > Purists happen to be whoever disagrees with Hamish Moffat. Cf. his
> > > rhetoric here wit
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > I think that since every package using a helper package seems
> > to need a versioned dependency, addign debhelper to build essential
> > shall not remove the burden from the packages. A
Hi,
found something like this in my logs for every start of mc:
Sep 1 12:13:48 pkfp20 mc: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory
I wonder why. Maybe a bug in mc? In fact, /dev/gpmctl exists:
srwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Sep 1 12:16 gpmctl=
The '=' is an indication of the fi
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:10:27PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Richard Braakman wrote:
> > I don't know how the decision ended up being made, but the argument
> > I presented at the time is that a dependency on debhelper is far more
> > likely to be versioned than the others are. A
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 10:35:40AM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
> There might be bug in either Pine or IMAP(D) or both.
There is. The license. (See debian-legal.)
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On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:04:23AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:37:01PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Purists happen to be whoever disagrees with Hamish Moffat. Cf. his
> > rhetoric here with his rhetoric in the great Social Contract amendment
> > flamewar.
>
> P
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 02:46:40PM -0600, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Their position was that the words "permission to copy, distribute and
> modify" do not grant permission to distribute a modified version. In
> other words, they say you can distribute the software, and you can
> modify the softwar
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:11:52PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote:
> ANNOUNCE: First official release of "apt-show-source"
>
> What is it?
>
> It's a perl script that parses the dpkg status file and that APT
> list files that end with Sources, without any options it prints out all
> installed pack
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 08:58:24AM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> The middle mouse button works flawless, if you select the Intellimouse
> protocol:
Of course, it's rather non-obvious that you need to select anything
other than the protocol your physical mouse supports (or it was when I
tried a P
> We discussed this previously (I think on debian-testing). The odd thing
> with
> the configuration is, that the user has to specify twice the mouse type
> (during gpm and during X setup). Even worse, if the user decides to use
> a PS/2
> instead of a serial mouse, he has to change it at severa
Richard,
I am comfortable speaking for the group at large when I say we appreciate
your advice and input on this matter. I myself appreciate the ends you're
trying to accomplish here. Nevertheless, the methods you're using to go
about this cause me to question whether or not your means justify y
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Yup, this question is senseless. If you happen to have encrypted passwords
> > in the passwd file, the shadow file is not looked at for these
> > accounts. So having shadow passwords will not break NIS.
> The question is about the default setting.
Maybe,
I can't ssh to it, and www.debian.org doesn't work either.
Paul Slootman
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Paul Slootman wrote:
> I can't ssh to it, and www.debian.org doesn't work either.
Yes, it's down. I'll reboot it as soon as I can tomorrow morning.
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"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I started this afternoon submitting bugs against packages which print
>verbose output in their maintainer scripts. The future that Debian
>must take is to fully support debconf. To further this goal I will
>continue submitting patches to any packa
Simon Richter wrote:
> Yup, this question is senseless. If you happen to have encrypted passwords
> in the passwd file, the shadow file is not looked at for these
> accounts. So having shadow passwords will not break NIS.
The question is about the default setting.
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We discussed this previously (I think on debian-testing). The odd thing with
the configuration is, that the user has to specify twice the mouse type
(during gpm and during X setup). Even worse, if the user decides to use a PS/2
instead of a serial mouse, he has to change it at several places. T
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Joey Hess wrote:
> Shadow passwords make your system more secure because nobody is able to
> view even encrypted passwords. Passwords are stored in a separate file
> that can only be read by special programs. We recommend the use of shadow
> passwords. If you're going to u
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> I intend to package Enhydra, an open source Java/XML application server
Fine!
Because I'm currently in the process of searching a reasonable content
management system. Is there anybody who could draw a short comparison
between enhydra and zope aor may
> "Joachim" == Joachim Trinkwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joachim> Juhapekka Tolvanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I fear, that it will take so much time, that we must have separately
>> packaged XEmacs/Gtk meanwhile. And I fear, that latest upstream sources
>> of XEmacs w
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