Re: Braille devices

2000-08-19 Thread Nicolas Pitre
From: Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [CCed to linux-kernel, as IMO the best idea would be to implement this at > kernel level] > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, VZW AUDIO/BRAILLE wrote: > > > Hi, I have on one pc the very great chance to use Debian 2.1 with a > > hardware braille-display. But actu

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Steve Bowman
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 02:20:26PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: > I know that, but dpkg/apt is a huge pile of source. I'd like to know what > order I should read things in, so not to get too confused with too many > forward references. Try cflow. BTW, avoiding forward refs => bottom-up

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
> it seems to me that this would make things slower since everything is > written twice, the text database would still have to be processed in > order to update it properly, so i don't think installing packages > would be much faster, if not slower. > > querying would indeed be fast but as i men

ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-19 Thread Seth Cohn
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-08-19 Severity: important Author is excited about getting this packaged for Debian. Homepage is http://biomail.sourceforge.net License is GPL I think this will go into contrib, since it uses PubMed's database, and it is pretty useless without access to t

Re: Potato now stable

2000-08-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Presumably sections and tasks will both be subsumed by this. I think > these should probably be handled differently: saying "I want the games > task" should probably default to installing all; whereas you'd probably > not want to say "I want the games s

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 06:00:54PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: > > no it wouldn't, as soon as that database gets corrupted in whatever > > way your completly screwed and have to reinstall. > > That's why I suggested a *cacheing* system for the text database. Every write sorry i have no

Re: Installed black-box 1.3-1 (source i386)

2000-08-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 02:52:16PM -0400, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Description: > black-box - Find the crystals > Changes: > black-box (1.3-1) unstable; urgency=low > . >* Initial Release. >* Upload sponsored by Tony Mancill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. That sure does come darn close to collidin

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
> no it wouldn't, as soon as that database gets corrupted in whatever > way your completly screwed and have to reinstall. That's why I suggested a *cacheing* system for the text database. Every write operation happens twice (once in the binDB, once in the txtDB), but every read operation can come

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 05:07:41PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: > > > I want to learn the total innards of dpkg/apt. I recently filed a bug > > complaining about the fact that dpkg is too slow, but I want to actually > > _do_ > > something abo

Re: WNPP now on the BTS

2000-08-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 09:10:50PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > Attached is the intended documentation for the WNPP system. I've formatted this text with html/wml and put it in the web pages. It should appear shortly as http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp . I'll make a few other changes to it

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-19 Thread LaMont Jones
> I'll be happy to do whatever is required for sendmail, but we also need > the assistance of (at least - any others?): > LaMont Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> postfix If someone wants to tell me exactly what to change and how (I haven't had to deal with alternatives before...), I'd be happy to ma

Re: Subpackaging

2000-08-19 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
> And maybe > prevent installing any 'non-newbie' packages > ("Sorry, your system level is set to 'newbie'. To install > 'complex-manually-configured-package', you must turn this off first) > [And if you can't figure out how to turn it off, you are too newbie] Uh... how about we avoid hand

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
> Source is the best documentation for a program...all hail the invention of > comments :) I know that, but dpkg/apt is a huge pile of source. I'd like to know what order I should read things in, so not to get too confused with too many forward references. -- Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PRO

Braille devices

2000-08-19 Thread Simon Richter
[CCed to linux-kernel, as IMO the best idea would be to implement this at kernel level] On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, VZW AUDIO/BRAILLE wrote: > Hi, I have on one pc the very great chance to use Debian 2.1 with a > hardware braille-display. But actually on another pc I'm suffering from > the refusal of m

Re: WNPP now on the BTS

2000-08-19 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, >> Anthony Towns writes: *sip* After reading and rereading the Developer's Reference and the QA docs, I did away with that oh-not-so-good WTO/ITO classifications and added a RFA, as per your suggestion. Attached is the intended documentation for the WNPP system.

SuSE-Blinux: a new Screenreader; Debian? (fwd)

2000-08-19 Thread VZW AUDIO/BRAILLE
(Forward it to interested deb-devels if necessary or to ther right Deb person). Hi, I have on one pc the very great chance to use Debian 2.1 with a hardware braille-display. But actually on another pc I'm suffering from the refusal of my old braille display (not brltty supported) to let me work un

Re: Nautilus Debian Package

2000-08-19 Thread Christian Marillat
"TK" == Takuo KITAME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CD> Hello, CD> The Nautilus deb depends on "libgtkhtml4 (>= 0.6.1-1)". CD> ^ CD> I can't find a package that provides that anywhere. I'm wondering CD> about that '4' above the caret. Could you advise? TK> It's in Incoming, http://incoming.de

Re: corelinux debian packages

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
"Christophe Prud'homme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I am waiting for my debian maintainer application to take place. > In the mean time, I want to provide my work to the masses > > Here is the apt line to add if you want corelinux (OOA and OOD library for > Linux) > These packages wer

Re: Problem with apt on slink systems

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
> Where the heck the word 'stable' comes from? I removed my hole > /var/state/apt/ and I do not know where it comes from. Hardcoded anywhere > perhaps? Or did I miss something grave? > > > MfG/Regards, Alexander What revision of slink do you have? slink 2.1R3 doesn't have that problem. Try to

Re: build dependencies

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > # apt-get source --compile gri > > Or have I missed something? What is still missing is apt-get --compile dist-upgrade That should download all sources (in the correct order) build them, move the debs to its cache and install. May the Source be

Re: new developper with new packages

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
"Christophe Prud'homme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi > > I am developper on two projects: > 1- corelinux (LGPL): http://corelinux.sourceforge.net OOA and OOD for Linux > 2- freefem(GPL): http://kfem.sourceforge.net Finite Element Code and > > > I have created rather involved

pcre

2000-08-19 Thread Mark Baker
I've just uploaded version 3 of libpcre. I've put it in a new package, libpcre3, and given it a new soname. I'm not sure if this was strictly necessary or not: the upstream documentation doesn't mention binary compatibility with the old version, probably because older versions weren't intended to

Re: CD rom image for net install

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sometime ago someone here mentioned the existance of a bootable cd rom > image that contained only the contents of the boot floppies to allow > install over the network on a computer with NO os installed. Anyone > know the URL where I can find this ima

Re: how to setup an apt-getable site

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
"Dr. Guenter Bechly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I just have some weird problems to make my uploaded inofficial deb-packages > apt-getable. The referring site is http://www.bechly.de/debian/. I had all > five Debian packages in a local directory called 'debian' and correctly run > dpkg-

Re: policy changes toward Non-Interactive installation

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Right. I just do nt see these invariants being very useful. I > > would much rather have a mk-realplayer package that helps me create a > > realplayer-blah.deb; and the invariants are then natural and not > > artificially i

Re: policy changes toward Non-Interactive installation

2000-08-19 Thread goswin . brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >... > Quite simply: This type of thing can not be handled before unpacking, so > it isn't. Debconf allows package to ask questions in their postinst, > this is just *strongly* discouraged. See the realplayer installer for a > packag

Re: GNOME question

2000-08-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 09:18:48AM -0400, Peter Teichman wrote: > > I would really like to start merging the Helix changes but as Peter Teichman > > from Helix pointed out there seem to be license issues about the graphics. > > And what's nice about Helix if not the graphics? I also can't understa

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Simon Richter
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: > I want to learn the total innards of dpkg/apt. I recently filed a bug > complaining about the fact that dpkg is too slow, but I want to actually _do_ > something about it (other than ordering other developers around). Actuallu the slowest thi

ITP: muh

2000-08-19 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
muh is a smart irc-bouncing-tool that remains on IRC all the time. You can take control over your nick by connecting to muh with an IRC client that is able to supply a password for the server connection. http://mind.riot.org/muh Regards/Gruesse, Norbert -- Norbert Tretkowski pgpae4xANLLVO.pg

Re: devfsd: ide cdr with scsi simulator

2000-08-19 Thread Malcolm Parsons
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 04:16:31PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i have to manually > modprobe ide-scsi and sg > before i can use > cdrecord -scanbus > for creative 4224e ide cdrecorder. > > question is: how can i add them into > /etc/modutils/devfsd ? alias /dev/sg*/dev/sg

Re: devfsd: ide cdr with scsi simulator

2000-08-19 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat Aug 19, 2000 um 04:16:31PM: > i have to manually > modprobe ide-scsi and sg > before i can use > cdrecord -scanbus > for creative 4224e ide cdrecorder. > > question is: how can i add them into > /etc/modutils/devfsd ? Learn the syntax of modules.conf (see

Re: Essential virtual packages

2000-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I cant find any details on the virtual package kernel-image except its >name, do virtual packages have priorities and can they be marked >essential ? Virtual packages are called that because they are just names that are provided by other packages. The pack

Re: Nautilus Debian Package

2000-08-19 Thread Takuo KITAME
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 05:13:52 -0500 > "CD" == Curt Daugaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... CD> Hello, CD> The Nautilus deb depends on "libgtkhtml4 (>= 0.6.1-1)". CD>^ CD> I can't find a package that provides that anywhere. I'm wondering CD> about th

Re: Nautilus Debian Package

2000-08-19 Thread Curt Daugaard
Hello, The Nautilus deb depends on "libgtkhtml4 (>= 0.6.1-1)". ^ I can't find a package that provides that anywhere. I'm wondering about that '4' above the caret. Could you advise? Thanks for any help you can give, and thanks for packaging this. Curt Daug

devfsd: ide cdr with scsi simulator

2000-08-19 Thread zw
i have to manually modprobe ide-scsi and sg before i can use cdrecord -scanbus for creative 4224e ide cdrecorder. question is: how can i add them into /etc/modutils/devfsd ? thanks,

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Chris Rutter
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:22:12 Glenn McGrath wrote: > hmm, im not sure its practical to create extra binary packages, wouldnt > it be more effective to exclude files from regular packages as its > installed. I was suggesting that the script would create them on-the-fly -- they wouldn't reside anywh

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Chris Rutter wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:14:24 Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > For the most part, I think there is enough flexibility within Debian to > > pick and choose the smallest tools that will do the job from among the > > binary packages. Where Debian currently falls short, we can creat

Re: Intel Assembly error

2000-08-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Joseph Carter wrote: > I do not know if there is a way to access the rest of EAX when accessing > AX, AL, etc. Not sure how endianness applies to EAX offhand (I've been up > a whole 10 minutes) but given 0x12345678 in EAX, AX may contain 0x5678 > which is where the confusion

Re: Subpackaging (Was: Potato now stable)

2000-08-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Edward Betts wrote: > I agreed with everything else that you said, you give a good example of how > subpackaging could be implemented using dpkg. However, one of my concerns as a > low bandwidth user is transferring stuff. Great, I can split my debs up into > subpackages insid

Re: Essential virtual packages

2000-08-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Ben Collins wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 04:16:08PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > Im trying to understand a few things relating to packaging... take the > > kernel for example > > > > I cant find any details on the virtual package kernel-image except its > > name, do virtual packages have

Re: Essential virtual packages

2000-08-19 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 04:16:08PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Im trying to understand a few things relating to packaging... take the > kernel for example > > I just did a fresh install of potato, and then installed my own kernel > image built by kernel-package, dselect lists my custom kernel as

Re: Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 09:30:18PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: > I want to learn the total innards of dpkg/apt. I recently filed a bug > complaining about the fact that dpkg is too slow, but I want to actually _do_ > something about it (other than ordering other developers around). > >

Essential virtual packages

2000-08-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Im trying to understand a few things relating to packaging... take the kernel for example I just did a fresh install of potato, and then installed my own kernel image built by kernel-package, dselect lists my custom kernel as being the only kernel-image installed, i cant see any reference to the o

Learning dpkg/apt

2000-08-19 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
I want to learn the total innards of dpkg/apt. I recently filed a bug complaining about the fact that dpkg is too slow, but I want to actually _do_ something about it (other than ordering other developers around). So Can someone who knows dpkg give me a good list of the stuff I should read, o