Re: [ISSUE] No support for shadow groups, yet we perpetrate to have it

1999-10-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 07:44:38PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 01:28:53AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 06:53:18PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > > This may sound silly, but in fact, glibc does not support shadow groups[1] > > > > Indeed. I think

Re: [ISSUE] No support for shadow groups, yet we perpetrate to have it

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 01:28:53AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 06:53:18PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > This may sound silly, but in fact, glibc does not support shadow groups[1] > > Indeed. I think we can drop this idea altogether. How many people do use > passwords o

Re: Redesign of diskless NFS-root package & ITP diskless-image

1999-10-01 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 05:39:15PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have made most of the changed required for my redesign of diskless. > > Amazingly, it looks like no changed are required for dpkg. I haven't > > yet tested anything though, and implementing secure mode might be a bit > > awkwa

Re: [ISSUE] No support for shadow groups, yet we perpetrate to have it

1999-10-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 06:53:18PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > This may sound silly, but in fact, glibc does not support shadow groups[1] Indeed. I think we can drop this idea altogether. How many people do use passwords on groups anyway? thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian h

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread John Goerzen
The Doctor What <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do not believe that any network daemon should automatically start > grabbing resources without asking. By installing a package, I only > consent to commiting disk space and the resoureses needed to get it > actually on the disk. Anything beyond tha

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:07:18AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: > I want to change the structure to save based > on the last two digits of the bug number, not the first... I don't understand how this should reduce/limit the number of files in a single directory. Why not determine the directory by

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:03:58PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: > Then close some bugs :) Ok. But what happens to those closed bugs as the new debbugs package no longer cleans them out? > No, seriously, that's how it's created but as long as we don't start ignoring > bugs, we'll never see or

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ryan Murray
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 05:39:12PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:16:03PM -0700, Ryan Murray wrote: > > > restrictive); see below for details. > > > > > > [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > > [ IDEA is no longer included. ] > > > > IDEA was the only part of ssh that made i

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread Herbert Xu
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Something I have noticed several times. If you are doing a remote upgrade > (probably a crazy idea), the telnet daemon (maybe inetd or something) becomes > unavailble for quite some time. Maybe it is between the time that netbase is > unpacked and when

[ISSUE] No support for shadow groups, yet we perpetrate to have it

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
This may sound silly, but in fact, glibc does not support shadow groups[1] (I'm not sure if we ever had this support), yet the shadow programs attempt to use it. For example we convert the group file to shadow, even though glibc does not contain the calls to get this info. If you look at the shadow

Re: shlib-with-non-pic-code _libglademodule.so

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:37:41PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > I think so, too. I have experienced this error several times, and could > not find any error in the .so files it said were wrong. The bug report > is already filed, #46186. > > BTW does this perhaps happen on just this one library in

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Oct-99 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: > >> [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? > Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very > usefull as a security tool wi

Re: ITP: actx

1999-10-01 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 07:16:37PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote: > Package: actx > Version: 0.98pre8-2 > Section: x11 Who else thinks that this might better be set to 'games' ? > Description: A Window Sitter Program on X > ActX is a window sitter program to make your life with X rich and > fru

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:16:03PM -0700, Ryan Murray wrote: > > restrictive); see below for details. > > > > [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > [ IDEA is no longer included. ] > > IDEA was the only part of ssh that made it non-free, prohibiting > commercial use. Wrong, RSA makes it non-free, an

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: > [ RSA is no longer included. ] Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very usefull as a security tool without a public key mechism, not to mention that exis

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:00:51PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > If somebody could come up with a better method of handling this it would be > most welcome. I'd suggest releasing a bash (which doesn't use #!/bin/sh scripts for install/remove) that, in postinst, divert's bash's /bin/sh. Leave

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ryan Murray
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:52:42PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > > I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show > > me the license on the version that they started with? > > -&<-&<-&<-&<-&< > This file is part of the

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show > me the license on the version that they started with? -&<-&<-&<-&<-&< This file is part of the ssh software, Copyright (c

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 09:55 +0100 1999-10-01, Philip Hands wrote: > >James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a > >> DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by > >> the CVS com

Re: boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-10-01 Thread Eric Delaunay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Eric Delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Do we still want to support very old hardware, especially low memory system > > (eg. some old sparc, and maybe old 386, 486 as well) ? > > Then you also need a 1.x kernel. 2.0 is wasting mem and 2.2 doesn´t > boot on low m

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread David Bristel
Strange, I've never had a hard time with a dist-upgrade when I am remote. Of course, it's best to open a new telnet window once the upgrade is complete, and to not do a final reboot until you are on site, since if it doesn't boot, you are stuck. But that behavior of losing connection is generally

SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Richard Stallman
I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show me the license on the version that they started with? Is there any chance that you could put me in touch with the OpenBSD people who are working on this?

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 09:55 +0100 1999-10-01, Philip Hands wrote: James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, etc.).

Re: NcFTP is free again?

1999-10-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:39 +0200 1999-10-01, J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\) wrote: I switched to lftp myself at the time of the previous ncftp license issue, and haven't looked back. Is there anything in ncftp that lftp doesn't have? Well, ncftp does display server messages without needing debug output on. -- Joel Klecker (a

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 15:00 +0200 1999-10-01, Torsten Landschoff wrote: I am the person responsible for this problem. In fact the problem was that people did not want the bash package to override their /bin/sh link so it had to be removed from the package. Those people need to learn to use diversions (and yes, you ca

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Torsten Landschoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If somebody could come up with a better method of handling this it would be > most welcome. Don't do it (muck around with /bin/sh links). Guy made a comment in the bug report about this and AFAIK didn't do it yet in case of breakages like this. -

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:54:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman was heard to say: > Previously Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > ishtar:~> dpkg --search /usr/bin/nsgmls > > sp: /usr/bin/nsgmls ^^ > That only means you have it installed. Now try this: > > [lightning:~]-10> dpkg --print-avail nsgmls >

Re: dhcpcd procedure

1999-10-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Edward Betts wrote: > Check $2 No, check $1. Wichertk -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > ishtar:~> dpkg --search /usr/bin/nsgmls > sp: /usr/bin/nsgmls That only means you have it installed. Now try this: [lightning:~]-10> dpkg --print-avail nsgmls Package `nsgmls' is not available. ie it's no longer available. If my memory servers me correctl

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread John Lapeyre
Something I have noticed several times. If you are doing a remote upgrade (probably a crazy idea), the telnet daemon (maybe inetd or something) becomes unavailble for quite some time. Maybe it is between the time that netbase is unpacked and when it is configured. There are usually problems

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:47:24PM -0500, Eric Weigel wrote: > I wanted to look at each of ipopd, gnu-pop3d and cucipop. I could only > look at one at a time. It was ok in my case, because the machine I was > using has very little pop3 traffic. But it was awkward. > > If I wanted to download so

Re: shlib-with-non-pic-code _libglademodule.so

1999-10-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:23:00AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > I am the maintainer of python-gnome and the associated modules. The > current python-glade has support for the libglade library in > _libglademodule.so. Problem: Lintian complains that _libglademodule.so > contains position depe

recompile needed for xlib6g (>= 3.3.5-1) instead of (>= 3.3.2.3a-2) ?

1999-10-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith
[posted this to -mentors 40 hours ago without an answer, so perhaps I'll try -devel instead] I recently uploaded i386 packages that were build on a slink system upgraded to potato's libc6 and C compilers (everything else is slink). These packages (xcolmix and xplot) have this depends line: Dep

Re: dhcpcd procedure

1999-10-01 Thread Edward Betts
Dpk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would be the best way to check for this? A simple 'ps |grep > dhcpcd' ? Would doing so make my package dependent on procps? or is > there a convenient way to check the installed version of dhcpcd > someway? Check $2 Debian Packagin

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
I did an upgrade of one of my systems yesterday with little incident (apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade). I had to rerun the upgrade part several times because the order of installation was a bit messed up (bind). Bob On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:24:45PM +0200, andreas pålsson wrote: > Hello

dhcpcd procedure

1999-10-01 Thread Dpk
I recently adopted dhcpcd... previous versions of dhcpcd would restart during upgrades, which obviously is bad for those doing it remotely. Since my recent upload does not restart dhcpcd, I need to start it for those upgrading from previous versions that did stop the daemon. What would be the be

Re: Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The hyphon at the ned of hello in "hello-debhelper" isn't any of these, > > > but grep declares it to match anyway! Is this something to do with the > > > form of my expression? > > > > It's preceded by a character that isn't a letter, digit or under

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Vincent" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Vincent> Here we go again with package forks... Can you *PLEASE* Vincent> try to merge this patch with the upstream version 1st. Vincent> If the patch is done correctly, I see no reason the Vincent> upstream maintain

Re: Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 1 Oct 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > $ grep -w debhelper override.potato > > debhelper optionaldevel > > hello-debhelper optionaldevel > > > > In the man page, under the -w option, it says that, in order to match, the > > string m

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Kenshi Muto
Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:53:44 + (GMT), Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack wrote about Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>): vincent> On 1 Oct 1999, Peter Makholm wrote: vincent> > Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: vincent> > vincent> > > > - All messages were transla

Re: Redesign of diskless NFS-root package & ITP diskless-image

1999-10-01 Thread goswin . brederlow
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [1 ] > On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 11:46:36AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > [description removed] > > I have made most of the changed required for my redesign of diskless. > Amazingly, it looks like no changed are required for dpkg. I haven't > yet tested anythi

Re: boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-10-01 Thread goswin . brederlow
Eric Delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do we still want to support very old hardware, especially low memory system > (eg. some old sparc, and maybe old 386, 486 as well) ? Then you also need a 1.x kernel. 2.0 is wasting mem and 2.2 doesn´t boot on low mem maschines. I think its safe to assum

Re: Need IRC help for "Open Source / Open Science" conference

1999-10-01 Thread bruce
Thanks, Johnny. Bruce

Re: Need IRC help for "Open Source / Open Science" conference

1999-10-01 Thread bruce
Oops. I sent that message regarding "need IRC help". I think the return address on the previous mesage is no good. Bruce

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Darren Benham
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:19:56PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Darren Benham wrote: > > > No, seriously, that's how it's created but as long as we don't start > > ignoring > > bugs, we'll never see or 9 bugs in a single directory. > > Yeah, but the entire rea

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-10-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:14:15AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > The FSF does only include code in GNU programs if the author assigns the > > copyright to the FSF by signing a paper. > > Wrong. > > Take a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/

Corel changes BTA?

1999-10-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello, I have seen on IRC a link to the changed BTA by Corel (I lost the link, hough). Someone who received this please verifies the correctness of this information, as I do not participate in the beta test and don't know if this is real (although it looks real). A quick check shows the followin

Re: Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > $ grep -w debhelper override.potato > debhelper optionaldevel > hello-debhelper optionaldevel > > In the man page, under the -w option, it says that, in order to match, the > string must be either at the beginning of the line, or pr

Re: Need IRC help for "Open Source / Open Science" conference

1999-10-01 Thread Johnie Ingram
"Open" == Open Source/Open Science <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Open> But nobody here so far knows a thing about IRC. I recommend http://www.irchelp.org/ for a quick primer. Open> So, I need someone to create an "OSOS" channel on some server Open> like irc.openprojects.net . Then, I need instru

bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:36:01AM -0400, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > yea...I just did an update today and something decided to remove /bin/sh > during the upgrade...and didn't put it back before it was needed... > so if something hoses for you just recreate it by linking it to like > bash... I am t

Need IRC help for "Open Source / Open Science" conference

1999-10-01 Thread Open Source/Open Science
Hi, I am at the "Open Source / Open Science" conference at Brookhaven National Labs. Tormrrow (Saturday) we are having the conference. We are doing an mbone broadcast, and would like to set up IRC so that people can send in questions. But nobody here so far knows a thing about IRC. So, I need s

Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
I am trying to grep the override file for the section for debhelper. I am using the "whole word" option (-w), but this is what I get: $ grep -w debhelper override.potato debhelper optionaldevel hello-debhelper optionaldevel In the man page, under the -w option, it says that

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Clint Adams
[Craig flaming Doctor What deleted] > if someone doesn't want a service enabled then they should not install > the package that provides that service. if they want the service, then > install the appropriate package. simple. their choice to install or not > install. > > now what is so fucking dif

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Clint Adams
> it isn't useful to run the vtund server until it is configured. there > is no "standard" configuration which is suitable for shipping as a > default - it MUST be customised for each site, each tunnel must be setup > individually. When did "useful" enter this discussion? pipsecd starts the daemo

Re: compressed HTML/dhelp

1999-10-01 Thread Marco Budde
Joel Klecker wrote: > close 41352 Why is it so difficult to fix bugs instead of closing bug reports without fixing the bugs? > thanks :( > >Please fix bugs! How should the user read compressed HTML > >files? Could you tell me one internet page sending > >compressed html documents to the user?

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for October 1, 1999

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 12:15:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: > Package: fileutils (main) > Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 39680 "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" still fails, it only suppresses > the message bbs:~# rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /var || echo not empt

I like to ask.

1999-10-01 Thread Esa Vitikka
Hello! What is function library name of fvwm2? I like to make aplication by C. Buttons, Fields and Windows. Student Esa Vitikka Rovaniemi Finland. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
yea...I just did an update today and something decided to remove /bin/sh during the upgrade...and didn't put it back before it was needed... so if something hoses for you just recreate it by linking it to like bash... Ivan On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:24:45PM +0200, andreas pålsson wrote: > Hello.

slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread andreas pålsson
Hello. I'm about to make an update of a base Slink-system to the unstable Potato. Is there anything I should think of or preperations to be made before updating? Why I do this is because I want to become a Debian-developer, and any hints and tips are much appreciated. Sincerely...

Re: Reupload to ftp.uni-erlangen.de

1999-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: > You may use a *.commands file to remove the unwanted files. > This is explained in the README in the UploadQueue directory. Which directory is that? I havn't found such a file you described. Kind regards Andreas.

I am leaving again...

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi *, I am leaving for another week of vacation today. I will not be able to read my mail or do any work related to Debian. Please feel free to NMU all my packages in case that is needed. Also I want to say that a new ILU version is out and I did not yet have the time to package it. I am going

shlib-with-non-pic-code _libglademodule.so

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi! I am the maintainer of python-gnome and the associated modules. The current python-glade has support for the libglade library in _libglademodule.so. Problem: Lintian complains that _libglademodule.so contains position dependent code. But it is compiled with gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -c libglademodul

Re: corel linux demo

1999-10-01 Thread Kenneth Scharf
--- Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 05:29:29AM -0700, Kenneth > Scharf wrote: > > I hope some shovelware cd makers will burn their > beta > > onto cdr and sell it for those of us without T1 > lines. > > I wonder if Corel will allow this... and I wonder > why

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Vincent Renardias
On 1 Oct 1999, Peter Makholm wrote: > Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > - All messages were translated to Japanese language. > > > Can you *PLEASE* try to merge this patch with the upstream version 1st. > > If the patch is done correctly, I see no reason the upstream mainta

Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends

1999-10-01 Thread Roman Hodek
> trn: > Depends: libc6, libncurses4 (>= 4.2-3.1), inews [...] > 68k - I think this is a bug in your build daemon - it's built a > slink package against the potato libraries. Can any of you give me > access to a slink machine to fix this? cd - as requested. It's not (strictly speaking) a bug in b

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Peter Makholm
Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - All messages were translated to Japanese language. > Can you *PLEASE* try to merge this patch with the upstream version 1st. > If the patch is done correctly, I see no reason the upstream maintainer > should refuse it. (And if he does, why shou

Processed: Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends

1999-10-01 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > severity 46388 grave Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends Severity set to `grave'. > reassign 46388 general Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends Bug reassigned from package `trn' to `general'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please conta

Re: Redesign of diskless NFS-root package & apt error

1999-10-01 Thread Brian May
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 05:16:28PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > apt, for starters is broken: Whats worse: 1. Complaining about a problem and not having it fixed. 2. Complaining about a problem, and subsequently finding it already has been fixed. Well, in my case, the problems I encountered w

Re: Reupload to ftp.uni-erlangen.de

1999-10-01 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Andreas Tille wrote: > I wanted to dupload a new version of my freetds-jdbc package > to ftp.uni-erlangen.de. Unfortunately the first ftp connection > were broken. A second trial was refused with the message: > > freetds-jdbc_pre0.3-1.diff.gz 2.8 kB dupload fatal error: Can

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:13:36AM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: > Excuse me. I work for TurboLinux. i don't give a damn who you work for. > We make it an EXPLICIT policy to disable all daemons, well, bully for you. i guess that must make you so proud. if someone doesn't want a service en

ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Kenshi Muto wrote: > jnethack is NetHack with Japanese patch. > - All messages were translated to Japanese language. > - New character "Fighter" (It looks "SailorMoon", but I don't know about > this so well ;-) ) added. > > Yes, this package is fork version from nethack. >

PLEASE READ: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-10-01 Thread Vincent Renardias
> Stephen Zander writes: > > > "Vincent" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Vincent> short summary: lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it > > Vincent> won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. a v21 version has been > > Vincent> reuploaded to master this morning. >

Re: Re^6: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 07:31:00PM +0100, Marco Budde wrote: > Ok, you#re right. But the classic http daemons (cern for example) used/use > chroot() for security reasons. You#re right, the current apache package > supports symlinks, but will all users use apache? Will all users use > FollowSy

ITP: actx

1999-10-01 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, I intent to upload package "actx". "actx" is pretty mascot program for X Window System, it will catch your heart. :-) Package: actx Version: 0.98pre8-2 Section: x11 Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1), xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), xlib6g (>= 3.3.4-1), xpm4g (>=

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Philip Hands
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a > DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by > the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, > etc.). Unfortunately, I'm chronical

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-10-01 Thread Matthew Vernon
Stephen Zander writes: > > "Vincent" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Vincent> short summary: lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it > Vincent> won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. a v21 version has been > Vincent> reuploaded to master this morning. > > Hmmm, s

Re: NcFTP is free again?

1999-10-01 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 01:41:18 -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > So we can't do squat with NcFTP 3 until Mike includes a license. I switched to lftp myself at the time of the previous ncftp license issue, and haven't looked back. Is there anything in ncftp that lftp doesn't have? If there isn't, I'

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread The Doctor What
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:02:44AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > The Doctor What wrote: > > Why shouldn't *all* daemon packages ask these questions, and whether to even > > run *upon install*? > > Because we need to decrease the number of questions asked at install time, > not increase it. According

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread The Doctor What
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 08:05:32AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 06:38:55AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > The fantasy is over--WELCOME TO REAL LIFE! It turns out that some > > people install Linux without preexisting knowledge of how to securely > > administer a Unix ma

Re^6: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-10-01 Thread Marco Budde
Am 30.09.99 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ... Moin Joey! JH> > (a) symlinks don#t work with the http protocol JH> You know, I've read the http protocol, and I don't recal any mention of JH> such unix-centric concepts of symlinks, especially not any prohibition of JH> them. If you're going to keep

ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, I intent to upload "jnethack". jnethack is NetHack with Japanese patch. - All messages were translated to Japanese language. - New character "Fighter" (It looks "SailorMoon", but I don't know about this so well ;-) ) added. Yes, this package is fork version from nethack. But I think the pa

Re: ITR: intent to rename poc to objc

1999-10-01 Thread Marcel Harkema
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:42:23PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 01:39:21AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Marcel Harkema writes: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am going to rename the poc (portable object compiler) package to > > objc if > > > no-one objects. The upstr

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 1 October 1999, at 4 h 14, the keyboard of David Coe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looks nice, thanks for doing this; one immediate question: > nsgmls is not (any longer?) in potato. Should it be? It is: ishtar:~> cat /etc/debian_version potato ishtar:~> dpkg --search /usr/bin/nsgml

Reupload to ftp.uni-erlangen.de

1999-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, I wanted to dupload a new version of my freetds-jdbc package to ftp.uni-erlangen.de. Unfortunately the first ftp connection were broken. A second trial was refused with the message: freetds-jdbc_pre0.3-1.diff.gz 2.8 kB dupload fatal error: Can't upload freetds-jdbc_pre0.3-1.diff.gz: fr

ITA: aboot

1999-10-01 Thread Greg Johnson
I will adopt aboot from Jeff E. Noxon. I have already spoken with Jeff. I will upload a new version tomorrow. Greg -- Greg Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://physics.clarku.edu/~gjohnsonfinger for PGP key

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Darren Benham wrote: > No, seriously, that's how it's created but as long as we don't start ignoring > bugs, we'll never see or 9 bugs in a single directory. Yeah, but the entire reason behind splitting things up like that was to reduce the number of files per-direc

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Darren Benham
Then close some bugs :) No, seriously, that's how it's created but as long as we don't start ignoring bugs, we'll never see or 9 bugs in a single directory. On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:46:07PM +0200, Thomas Schoepf wrote: > > I'm currently working on a tool that automatically fetches all

NcFTP is free again?

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Cheney
I just looked at NcFTP 3.0Beta20 and it appears to have changed its license to free (no license file) and the libncftp requirement of non-use by other programs seems to have been dropped also. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can look at this and see if it can be packaged again. Thanks

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 05:01:05AM +0100, Chris Rutter wrote: > Yes, probably; but no. RMS is referring to the fact that many authors > of many pieces of xemacs haven't assigned copyright to the FSF, > meaning that copyright remains with them, or possibly even their > employer, depending on sticky

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread David Coe
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Debian SGML/XML HOWTO. [...] > http://www.debian.org/~bortz/SGML-HOWTO/ [...] looks nice, thanks for doing this; one immediate question: nsgmls is not (any longer?) in potato. Should it be? Thanks.

Package update for Sep 29: Malformed Priority Line

1999-10-01 Thread Rhys Dyfrgi
This is the wrong place to send this, but I could find no better place on the Debian contact page. When I was updating my package list (apt-get update), I got an error on the ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_potato_main_binary-i386_Packages file. "Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Malformed Priorit

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Rutter
On 30 Sep 1999, David Coe wrote: > Is that still an accurate description of the legal status (from > FSF's perspective) of XEmacs, and if so, shouldn't we move it to > non-free? Yes, probably; but no. RMS is referring to the fact that many authors of many pieces of xemacs haven't assigned copyr

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Clint Adams wrote: > > debian's attitude is: if you want something different, DIY. and more > > importantly, it lets you DIY. > > Err.. what Unix DOESN'T let you DIY? Every Unix lets you DIY, of course. The problem is the *'/(&% configuration done by most all distributions

neighbour table overflow

1999-10-01 Thread Brian May
Sorry if this is obvious... Does anyone know what this message means? neighbour table overflow I have been getting it on my potato NFS-Root system. eg when installing netbase. Restarting nis also causes it to display three times. nis client doesn't work, but might be unrelated configuration err

Re: Swap setup on Debian

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Rutter
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Staffan Hamala wrote: > Why doesn't the installer use -v1 so that larger swaps that 128MB can > be used? I presume this is a boot-floppies issue, and will indeed be rectified nearer release time -- for the time being, it would seem prudent not to sacrifice any compatibility f

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 10:53:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > i'm talking about the current practice of postinst scripts in various > packages enabling the services that they provide (if any). i am not > talking at all about which packages are base or required or extra or > whatever - i'm talkin

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Eric Weigel
As a user, I have to say that the "Provides/Conflicts" that happens with POP3 servers is annoying. I wanted to look at each of ipopd, gnu-pop3d and cucipop. I could only look at one at a time. It was ok in my case, because the machine I was using has very little pop3 traffic. But it was awkwar

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Herbert Xu
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, I tentatively announce a preliminary ITP, pending confirming that > their hacked version is indeed DSFG free. _But_, I'd much rather > someone with more free time would do it instead. So, please, someone > else (who doesn't live in the USA) have a lo

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 07:02:44AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 08:05:32AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > sorry, it's you who needs to wake up to the real world. > > > > if people don't know how to administer a unix machine then they need > > to learn fast. > > Not true

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Oct-99 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On 30 Sep 1999, James Troup wrote: > >> OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a >> DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by >> the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, >> et

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