Debian Weekly News - September 21st, 1999

1999-09-21 Thread Joey Hess
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Re: A few changes

1999-09-21 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 21/09, Darren Benham wrote: | The BTS should check pgp signatures? Well, IMO, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] should. pgpOO3jJIuj3l.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A few changes

1999-09-21 Thread Darren Benham
The BTS should check pgp signatures? On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:49:44PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Joseph Carter wrote: > > Essentially, it does exactly what people like me have been complaining it > > didn't do: IGNORE the MIME/PGP/whatever crap and just read the message. > > T

Re: A few changes

1999-09-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joseph Carter wrote: > Essentially, it does exactly what people like me have been complaining it > didn't do: IGNORE the MIME/PGP/whatever crap and just read the message. That would be bad. At the very least it should complain loudly if the message does not verify. Wichert. -- =

Re: debconf for configuring a room full of machines

1999-09-21 Thread Scott Barker
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 04:19:43PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: > Write some code? Most Unix tools are written because people want to use > them. Network databases aren't my area of expertise. I've written plenty of code, just not code dealing with that. > What timescale where you thinking about?

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 09:23:07AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 12:49:29PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > On 21 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote: > > > > > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > So, what, if anything, is being built with egcs? > > > > > > Not

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Matthias Klose
Joel Klecker writes: > At 20:00 +0200 1999-09-21, Matthias Klose wrote: > >>The egcs packages are used to build the libstdc++2.8 and libstdc++2.9 > >packages and therefore are still in potato. For the release they have > >to be modified to build the runtime libraries only (if you want to > >st

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-21 Thread Joey Hess
Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > I also find apt 0.3.11's "apt-cache search" to be quite useful (and fast). > > I use: > > perl -n00e '/xml/i && print;' /var/state/apt/lists/*Packages | less > > (to search for XML related packaged e.g.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>apt-cache search xml libroxen-swarm - S

Re: tama in slink

1999-09-21 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: > Am I only one thinking /var/lib/tama should be /var/lib/games/tama The FSSTND says: Game data stored in /usr/lib/games should be purely static data. Any modifiable files, such as score files, game play logs, and so forth, should be placed

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-21 Thread John Lapeyre
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: hamish>On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 02:57:42PM -0600, Scott Barker wrote: hamish>> dpkg -i hamish>> dpkg-reconfigure hamish>> hamish>> you could just run: hamish>> hamish>> dpkg -i --reconfigure hamish>> hamish>> I'm probably thinking too far ahead right

ITO penguineyes and bvi

1999-09-21 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi, I intent to orphan bvi and penguineyes. I will orphan bvi, because I don't use it much anymore and penugineyes will get orphaned, because I gave gnome I try, but I don't like it much and so I want to remove it, which makes packaging penguineyes a bit hard. If somebody wants to take one of the

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 12:49:29PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On 21 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote: > > > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > So, what, if anything, is being built with egcs? > > > > Nothing, since egcs does not exist in the distribution anymore. > > Well, egcs

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Joel Klecker
At 20:00 +0200 1999-09-21, Matthias Klose wrote: The egcs packages are used to build the libstdc++2.8 and libstdc++2.9 packages and therefore are still in potato. For the release they have to be modified to build the runtime libraries only (if you want to step forward for this task, you are welcome

/usr/share/doc will introduce lots of strangeness

1999-09-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I do all my work on Debian Slink i386, but just made a potato install on Alpha. To my surprise, some of my packages are broken wrt the /usr/share issue on alpha. Note that these are packages that I haven't upgraded yet wrt this issue, and so they are stated in the control file to be compliant to

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Matthias Klose
Dale Scheetz writes: > On 21 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote: > > > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > So, what, if anything, is being built with egcs? > > > > Nothing, since egcs does not exist in the distribution anymore. > > Well, egcs 1.1.2-2 is still in my source ar

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Matthias Klose
Ben Collins writes: > On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:19:48AM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > OK, I have recovered to a slink system, and I'm ready to upgrade it to > > potato, which raises the above question. There are two gcc versions > > available in the archives. Which one is being used to build

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RE: debconf for configuring a room full of machines

1999-09-21 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
The bigger issue is that until debconf has a real db, passing the answers an admin would want into packages is rather painful. Yes, this will allow for great power -- in the future. The Debian install procedure is undergoing lots of change.

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 21 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So, what, if anything, is being built with egcs? > > Nothing, since egcs does not exist in the distribution anymore. Well, egcs 1.1.2-2 is still in my source archives, so someone must be using it. egcs64 is c

Re: apt-get upgrade unstable killed old libc5-compat FIXED

1999-09-21 Thread Mr. Christopher F. Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 09:19:20PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > I've heard that the bug is in ld.so, and that the current potato > version of ldso fixes the problem. > > Can you verify or disprove that? > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul Yes. This new ldso fixed it with the three libc5 binaries I had r

Re: gnome-utils in slink

1999-09-21 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > gpenguin should fly so CENTER of penguin1.png is > at the mouse pointer not UPPER-LEFT corner > > gw gives me : > ** WARNING **: Could not open help topics file NULL Please use the bug tracking system (see http://bugs.debian.org) to report bugs i

gnome-utils in slink

1999-09-21 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
gpenguin should fly so CENTER of penguin1.png is at the mouse pointer not UPPER-LEFT corner gw gives me : ** WARNING **: Could not open help topics file NULL

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, what, if anything, is being built with egcs? Nothing, since egcs does not exist in the distribution anymore. - Ruud de Rooij. -- ruud de rooij | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://ruud.org

Roxen Configuration Files

1999-09-21 Thread David Coe
Package: roxen Version: 1.3.111-8 Severity: wishlist David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 21 Sep 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > > > > * "David" == David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David> I was refering to the equivilant of a section > > David> in Apache...to just send R

debconf for configuring a room full of machines

1999-09-21 Thread Edward Betts
Scott Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A better approach, perhaps, will be to use the remote database capabilities > > of debconf to just pull settings off the old system when you install a > > package on the new one. Of course, that's all vaporware at this point. > > I guess I'm just too eag

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Ben Collins wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:19:48AM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > OK, I have recovered to a slink system, and I'm ready to upgrade it to > > potato, which raises the above question. There are two gcc versions > > available in the archives. Which one is bei

Re: midnight commander and mp3s

1999-09-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think default mp3 player for mc should be freeamp not mpg123 > cause mpg123 isnt free but freeamp is and debian shouldnt > depend on nonfree soft anyhow as policy says update-mime(8), mailcap.order(8) Marcelo

Re: midnight commander and mp3s

1999-09-21 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Tomasz" == Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tomasz> I think default mp3 player for mc should be freeamp not mpg123 Tomasz> cause mpg123 isnt free but freeamp is and debian shouldnt Tomasz> depend on nonfree soft anyhow as policy says Please install the package "bug" and report a

midnight commander and mp3s

1999-09-21 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
I think default mp3 player for mc should be freeamp not mpg123 cause mpg123 isnt free but freeamp is and debian shouldnt depend on nonfree soft anyhow as policy says

Re: Intent to create freedraft2D

1999-09-21 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
Could you tell us more precisely : what it is to be ?

Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:19:48AM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > OK, I have recovered to a slink system, and I'm ready to upgrade it to > potato, which raises the above question. There are two gcc versions > available in the archives. Which one is being used to build the system? > Will either work?

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-21 Thread Scott Barker
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 11:02:58AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Why would you install the package (which presumably includes > configuration) and then immediately reconfigure it? You upgrade a package, and it gets installed with your previous configuration, and you want to change that configurat

Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
OK, I have recovered to a slink system, and I'm ready to upgrade it to potato, which raises the above question. There are two gcc versions available in the archives. Which one is being used to build the system? Will either work? The libraries are pretty self explanitory, with the exception of ncurs

Re: Roxen virtual servers, was: Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-21 Thread David Bristel
Hm, I didn't see that the config files were in text format. From this, I'll need to look again. Thanks. Dave Bristel On 21 Sep 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > Date: 21 Sep 1999 13:21:56 +0200 > From: Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: ITA: wmaker wamker-data

1999-09-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Chris McKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey... > > I just noticed that wmaker and wmaker-data are up for > adoption. If no one else is working on them, I will take over. Hi, current maintainer here. I'm moving to Germany, where I don't not yet sure if I'll be able to maintain

ITA: wmaker wamker-data

1999-09-21 Thread Chris McKillop
Hey... I just noticed that wmaker and wmaker-data are up for adoption. If no one else is working on them, I will take over. chris -- ^^ chris mckillop - [EMAIL PROTECTED]"The faster I go, the behinder I

Re: emacs and anacron on slink

1999-09-21 Thread Mark W. Eichin
Yes, the lack of suidregister unregistration is an already-reported bug. I even have it fixed, but was mocked by some of the /usr/share changes and haven't got an updated build yet. > 2) it takes 47 MB (7.37%) of first CD on which, in theory, the most > useful packages This is a good point --

tama in slink

1999-09-21 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
Am I only one thinking /var/lib/tama should be /var/lib/games/tama or someone agrees with me And shouldnt uninstalling script remove this dir?

Re: emacs and anacron on slink

1999-09-21 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
> > I also think no editor should be privileged anyhow by debian > > Everyones favorite editor is very intimate matter and > > forcing anyone to use particular is breaking of users privacy > > Why do you think Debian is forcing you to use one specific editor? I dont claim im forced to use emacs b

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-21 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:15:10AM +0200, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: > Who will agree with me that > qmail[dsrqlp] should be forbidden > Their existance in /etc/passsd rape me thru my eyes > 6 statics for pacage is a bad idea but > if this package isnt even free they should be > thown out without

Roxen virtual servers, was: Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-21 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "David" == David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David> I was refering to the equivilant of a section David> in Apache...to just send Roxen the information for a new David> account, including IP address and directories, and have it do David> it automatically without admin intervention. Whi

ITP: greg

1999-09-21 Thread Tommi Virtanen
I'm packaging greg, http://www.gnu.org/software/greg/ (naturally GPL) --8<-- The Greg testing framework Greg is a framework for testing other programs and libraries. Its purpose is to provide a single front end for all tests and to be a small, simple framework for wr

ITP liberror-perl, libcorba-orbit-perl, libgnome-gnorba-perl

1999-09-21 Thread Paolo Molaro
Hi. I plan to package libcorba-orbit-perl and libgnome-gnorba-perl: these modules allow to use the Orbit ORB within perl and the gnorba activation features. liberror-perl is required by the above modules and so I'll package it as well. lupus -- ---

Re: emacs and anacron on slink

1999-09-21 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since I removed emacs 19 anacron sends me mail every day > in which it says : > File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not > installed > > and since I removed all emacses from my computer there is > another line in ev

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-21 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
Who will agree with me that qmail[dsrqlp] should be forbidden Their existance in /etc/passsd rape me thru my eyes 6 statics for pacage is a bad idea but if this package isnt even free they should be thown out without mercy

emacs and anacron on slink

1999-09-21 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
Since I removed emacs 19 anacron sends me mail every day in which it says : File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not installed and since I removed all emacses from my computer there is another line in everyday mail : File /usr/lib/emacs/20.3/i386-debian-linux-gnu/mo

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-21 Thread Joey Hess
Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > The whole purpose of Wichert's spec is to force packages to install with a > default configuration, and then reconfigure themselves with data from the > database after installation. Whether questions are (all) asked before or > after installation is a secondary point

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-21 Thread Aaron Van Couwenberghe
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 11:02:58AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 02:57:42PM -0600, Scott Barker wrote: > > dpkg -i > > dpkg-reconfigure > > > > you could just run: > > > > dpkg -i --reconfigure > > > > I'm probably thinking too far ahead right now, though... > > Why w

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postin st

1999-09-21 Thread d1temp
On 20 Sep, Daniel Barclay wrote: >> From: "Oliver Elphick" >>Style DateDatetime >>--- >>ISO1999-07-17 1999-07-17 07:09:18+01 > ^ > Is that correct? Doesn't ISO

taper up for adoption

1999-09-21 Thread Joey Hess
I never use taper anymore -- whould someone who does like to take the package? It has several forwarded bug reports and isn't FHS yet, but no other problems. -- see shy jo

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-21 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: "Oliver Elphick" >Style DateDatetime >--- >ISO1999-07-17 1999-07-17 07:09:18+01 ^ Is that correct? Doesn't ISO 8601 specify the character "T" betwee

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-21 Thread David Bristel
I was refering to the equivilant of a section in Apache...to just send Roxen the information for a new account, including IP address and directories, and have it do it automatically without admin intervention. While it CAN be done, it would be a pain in the ass.

Re: apt-get upgrade unstable killed old libc5-compat

1999-09-21 Thread Robert Thomson
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 08:06:47PM -0500, Mr. Christopher F. Miller wrote: > RE: potato upgrade killed libc5 Yes, and it's now fixed with ldso 1.9.11-3, which should be propagating around the mirrors right now - if it isn't already. It's on ftp.debian.org atm. - Rob -- For a man to truly under

apt-get upgrade unstable killed old libc5-compat

1999-09-21 Thread Mr. Christopher F. Miller
RE: potato upgrade killed libc5 I ran an apt-get upgrade over the past weekend. That and/or an upgrade to new 2.2.12 kernel seems to have killed all my old binaries depending on libc5. Mostly the affected files amount to cruft. There is(was) a commercial xvscan with scanner support that died.

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 02:57:42PM -0600, Scott Barker wrote: > dpkg -i > dpkg-reconfigure > > you could just run: > > dpkg -i --reconfigure > > I'm probably thinking too far ahead right now, though... Why would you install the package (which presumably includes configuration) and then immedi

grep-ing available made easy

1999-09-21 Thread Bjoern Brill
Hello, I have just finished the first 90% (that is, I have a decently working beta version, but some things are still suboptimal) of something that could be vaguely described as Package: debcrawler Section: admin Priority: optional Version: 0.19 Depends: boa | httpd, lynx | www-browser, dpkg (>=