Dermot John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought that a non-maintainer release was normally only done where
> either a security hole needed to be fixed quickly or where a serious
> problem existed with a package that the maintainer had not fixed for some
> time.
The previous version was
Joel as you can see from the CC: headers above this email is going out to
more than just yourself. The point(s) I'm making below I consider to be
important to the Debian project as a whole.
As can be seen from bug #23367, you sent me an email to tell me there was
a newer version of gd than the mos
I wrote:
> Vi and emacs should be able to use any editor.
That should read 'Vi and emacs users should be able to use any editor.'
^
I can't get my wife to try anything but vi, though.
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Elmwood, WI
> > What do people think of creating a new ftp directory called say,
> > "sci"? Many of the packages in Scientific Applications for Linux
> > don't fit cleanly into "math".
> >
>
> I would leave it the way it is. "Scientific" is not well defined. To a
> certain extent it's not defined at all.
In making enquiries to LJ about the cost of advertising,
Debian was given an offer of 2 one-half page ads if
we do some work on some Linux docs that the LJ is
maintaining. This is an opportunity we shouldn't
let pass.
We are looking for a person, or a group of people,
who are willing to work on th
To the extent that I have a goal in Debian , its packaging these
things (I've already done three or four) . For the time being, I am
putting it all in 'math'. We may want to change the name or granularity at
some point, if packging these things really takes off. I agree that 'sci'
would b
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Santiago Vila wrote:
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>
> On 14 Jun 1998, Guy Maor wrote:
>
> > passwd is required and that is enough. You can assume that all
> > required packages are always on the system.
>
> I disagree. Since you are able to remove a required-but-no
Hi, Johnie!
>
> Some SAL classifications include chemistry, biology, artificial
> intelligence, physics, astronomy, relational DBMS, parallel computing,
> geographic information systems, and scientific data processing and
> visualization, some of which are poorly described by "math".
>
Agreed.
Enrique Zanardi wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 01:21:22PM +0200, Micha Kersloot wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've got a question. Where is lmemroot.bin for hamm ??
>
> It wasn't built in boot-floppies version 2.0.6 because of problems with
> libc6 and floppy disk capacity. boot-floppies 2.0.7 wi
"Alexander" == Alexander Kushnirenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alexander> I would leave it the way it is. "Scientific" is not well
Alexander> defined. To a certain extent it's not defined at all.
Some SAL classifications include chemistry, biology, artificial
intelligence, physics, astronomy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes:
> Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > There is a README for autoup.sh on
> > {ftp|http}://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/.
> >
> > Both the README and autoup.sh should have a separate (simplified)
> > version for use on the CD. (For insta
> > The following bug reports *must* be fixed before the current frozen Debian
> > distribution can progress further in its development cycle. Reminders have
> > been sent to the maintainers of these packages yet nothing has been done to
> ^
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 07:20:09PM +0200, Scott Hanson wrote:
> I have two bug reports of the mysql daemon seg faulting on startup on
> hamm (or mostly hamm) systems, one for the hamm package
> (3.21.25gamma-4) and the other for the more current slink package
> (3.21.30-2). I can neither reproduce
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 04:07:11PM -0400, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote:
> Hi,
> >
> > What do people think of creating a new ftp directory called say,
> > "sci"? Many of the packages in Scientific Applications for Linux
> > don't fit cleanly into "math".
> >
>
> I would leave it the way it is.
Hi,
>
> What do people think of creating a new ftp directory called say,
> "sci"? Many of the packages in Scientific Applications for Linux
> don't fit cleanly into "math".
>
I would leave it the way it is. "Scientific" is not well defined. To a
certain extent it's not defined at all.
Sasha
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
>
> Well, vrwave only needs a java runtime environment to run. The
> dependancies I've marked are related to jdk 1.1 (jdk1.1-runtime) or jdk
> 1.0.2 (jdk-shared OR jdk-static). Alas, I sent a mail to wnpp because I
> don't like thi
"Alexander" == Alexander Kushnirenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alexander> So perhaps if you are going to work with them you could let
Alexander> them know about Packages in Debian and they may want to
Alexander> update there Web Page. I know that many of my colleagues
Alexander> use this page
Hi,
>
> Kachina Technologies is strongly interested in Debian Sparc for the
> hardware they distribute. They are offering resources for this effort with
> the goal being a "commercial" grade Debian distribution.
>
I have a little comment which is not quite you were asking for. But perhaps
it
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 10:59:13AM +0200, Peter Maydell wrote:
>
> Fabrizio Polacco wrote:
> >If you don't reassign this bug to dpkg or apt, I will close it in two
> >days (as later I will be busy).
>
>
> Oi! I'm an end user (OK, so I browse debian-devel :->). I'm not supposed
> to have to know
> [if not emacs or vi or ae,]
> > what then ?
> > joe.
>
> How dare you come up with such a logical solution to the problem! And how
> can you be so unfair as to include my favorite editor but not everyone
> else's? heh.
joe is not my favorite editor. it's the first editor i could use on linux.
> Well, that's IMHO an idea worth worth studying. When I first
> installed Linux, I was coming from DOS and Borland's editors, which
> joe mimics quite closely.
i know lots of people who came from DOS. know they use vi or emacs,
but they started useing linux with joe. they still know enought to
Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> Please watch your generalizations. I am working on all of these and in
> fact made a test build of 3.3.2.2-1 yesterday. It upsets me when the
> implication is made that I am sitting on my hands.
me too
A lot of those are really being worked upon. Several fix
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 09:19:30AM -0400, Brian White wrote:
> The following bug reports *must* be fixed before the current frozen Debian
> distribution can progress further in its development cycle. Reminders have
> been sent to the maintainers of these packages yet nothing has been done to
Scott Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're increasingly of the opinion recently that any postinst questions are
> to be avoided.
But we still need the functionality.
The proper thing to do is provide an abstraction layer: both implementation
and access policy, which allows us to change the un
Hallo all,
Does anybody know who generates this index?
(ftp.debian.org/debian/indices/md5sums.gz)
How often is it updated, what is in there?
e.g.:
zcat md5sums.gz | wc -l yields:
16618
find ! -path ./indices\* -a ! -path ./bo\* |wc -l yields:
11139
I currently write a programm which
At 07:56 -0700 1998-06-13, Remco van de Meent wrote:
>Sounds reasonable. Though, in the copyright file of webalizer, the copyright
>text of GD (1.2!) has been included by webalizer's author. Is it still
>possible to have the webalizer-package in main instead of contrib?
Yes, the copyright file doe
On 15 Jun 1998, Scott Hanson wrote:
> I have two bug reports of the mysql daemon seg faulting on startup on
> hamm (or mostly hamm) systems, one for the hamm package
> (3.21.25gamma-4) and the other for the more current slink package
> (3.21.30-2). I can neither reproduce nor explain the seg fault
I have two bug reports of the mysql daemon seg faulting on startup on
hamm (or mostly hamm) systems, one for the hamm package
(3.21.25gamma-4) and the other for the more current slink package
(3.21.30-2). I can neither reproduce nor explain the seg faults, both
packages run for me on 3 different sy
andreas writes:
> ae is nice, if want a crippeled, but very small editor.
> what then ?
> joe.
Just tried it. It's good enough for rescue disk use, but so is ae. And
joe is way too big. Anything that fits is ok on the rescue disk, as long
as the user knows it's there.
> joe is useable for vi
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 01:21:22PM +0200, Micha Kersloot wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've got a question. Where is lmemroot.bin for hamm ??
It wasn't built in boot-floppies version 2.0.6 because of problems with
libc6 and floppy disk capacity. boot-floppies 2.0.7 will have a slightly
different method for
Well, vrwave only needs a java runtime environment to run. The
dependancies I've marked are related to jdk 1.1 (jdk1.1-runtime) or jdk
1.0.2 (jdk-shared OR jdk-static). Alas, I sent a mail to wnpp because I
don't like this either, I would prefer a "Depends: java (=> 1.0.2)" and
let the pac
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 09:38:16AM +0200, I mangled and reordered what
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> you may flame me, but you have to write the flame with joe.
You asked for it...
~$ echo $EDITOR
joe
~$
[if not emacs or vi or ae,]
> what then ?
> joe.
How dare you come up with such a logical
>I do not see it in my wmaker menu. I also looked under /etc/X11 in
>some window manager's menus, but none of them contains references to
>xexec under the xshells menu.
Does your system have a Debian menu at all? A Debian/XShells? Does
it contain other entries such as
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Raul Miller wrote:
> Is there anything like a cannonical list of packages that are needed for
> building a standard debian system?
We will have something like that as soon as we implement the new
"Source-Depends:" field. There was a discuss
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Zed Pobre wrote:
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>
> I'm CCing this to debian-devel to see if anyone else knows what could
> cause this.
>
> The general problem is that for this user, xexec is not properly adding
> in the menu entry.
>
I have noticed for quite a whil
I don't know how many of you saw the posting Nils made to debian-announce
a while back, so I will give some background:
Kachina Technologies is strongly interested in Debian Sparc for the
hardware they distribute. They are offering resources for this effort with
the goal being a "commercial" grade
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Ok... Just some comments.
I just got some crude debian autoinstall mechanism running for my
organisation, which does a dpkg -install from a perl expect script, which
scans the output of dpkg for keywords which it reacts to. I would have
liked a more beautiful ap
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Peter Maydell wrote:
> My point wasn't that installing man pages for multiple languages was
> wrong, just that installing them without asking was wrong.
We're increasingly of the opinion recently that any postinst questions are
to be avoided.
In any event, others are correct
In my packages ibrazilian and iportuguese, that provide dictionaries for
ispell, I addressed a issue raised by Santiago Vila some time ago in
this mailing list (see
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9805/msg00498.html,
and bug report #22293).
Each package add a file as the one
Sudhakar Chandrasekharan writes ("What to do when apt, dpkg and dselect dump
core"):
> I recently upgraded to apt_0.0.16-1
>
> Things seemed to be going fine till today. Today I noticed that apt-get,
> dpkg and dselect all dump core -
This sounds like it could be a (hitherto unknown!) dpkg bug.
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, but note that the current version of ae fixes a lot of these
> problems. [I found this out while attempting to verify some
> of my gripes about ae.]
Is it just me, or does the vi mode in the current version of ae not work
at all? I tried
ae -f /etc
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On 14 Jun 1998, Guy Maor wrote:
> passwd is required and that is enough. You can assume that all
> required packages are always on the system.
I disagree. Since you are able to remove a required-but-non-essential
package and dpkg does not complain, required-bu
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Chris Fearnley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
>/etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID
>for the new user. And my staff is complaining about the wast
Hello,
I've got a question. Where is lmemroot.bin for hamm ??
Grtx,
Micha Kersloot
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Joop Stakenborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I cannot use any other mail protocol, neither can I use ssh because
> of the firewall here.
Er.. is it an application firewall (which insists on reading your
mail, at least to ensure that you're using proper pop commands),
or is it just a packet filter
Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you may flame me, but you have to write the flame with joe.
Ok, I'm writing my response in joe. [Is it a flame? I hope not.]
ae is about 24k, 12k when compressed with gzexe, joe is about 174k,
82k when compressed with gzexe.
For this you get a n
Andreas Jellinghaus writes:
> what then ?
> joe.
Well, that's IMHO an idea worth worth studying. When I first
installed Linux, I was coming from DOS and Borland's editors, which
joe mimics quite closely.
As a newbie, learning vi or emacs was not a short-term goal - I had to
do some effective w
Fabrizio Polacco wrote:
>On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> man-db installs Spanish, Italian and German versions of its manpages,
>> as well as English ones.
>
>This is one of the goals of Debian.
>It is surely the main reason for *my* partacipation to the project.
>W
Fabrizio Polacco wrote:
> This is one of the goals of Debian.
> It is surely the main reason for *my* partacipation to the project.
> When I find a package wich doesn't install all the translations
> available in its sources, I raise a bug asking to do so.
And you are not alone there!
>
> Then th
Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes:
>
> > (a) we need specific installation instructions for upgrading. Igor,
> > is this supposed to be part of the install.sgml document, or is it
> > separate?
> >
> > (b) recommend for upgrades that use
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James Troup, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>"Darren/Torin/Who Ever..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> It hasn't happened *intentionally*. I'm not going to break many
>> Perl scripts without warning. We have a release where gdbm is
>> deprecated
[This (harsh) reply is CCed to debian-devel, as I think it's the place
to discuss about the issue.]
On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Peter Maydell wrote:
> Package: man-db
> Version: 2.3.10-65
>
> man-db installs Spanish, Italian and German versions of its manpages,
> as well as English
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Where can I find a good reference to LICENSES?
Have a look at the debian-devel web archive. Look for Copyright howto.
I posted some urls regarding copyright there.
HTH,
Jens
P.S.: Feel free to email, if you find some other links, thanks.
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Hi, thanks for reading,
I am having some problems with the mail server here at the office.
Once every 2 weeks I get unsubscribed from the different debian
lists because of bounced mail. I have complained (a lot) with the
sysop here, but without any result.
Can anyone of you guys give me access to
what do you want on the rescue disk ?
- your favorite editor ?
that's not possible, we cannot include every editor
- only __your__ favorite editor ?
hey, that's unfair. and if it's emacs : too big.
- a strpped down version of all editors ?
great: everyone will be unhappym
>We use mkhybrid instead of mkisofs (it is just a patched version of
>mkisofs) Does mkisofs 1.12a4 support both joliet and rockridge?
yes, it does. i'm currently useing it.
andreas
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On Sat, Jun 13, 1998 at 08:01:51PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> For some reason with the newest hamm I have been getting lots of cca*
> files in /tmp, they are all 0 size and all created by my user. There are
> about 1000 of them right now - anyone know what is making these files so I
> can file
On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 07:17:14AM -0500, Petra, Kevin J Poorman wrote:
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> to even start to look, to fix them so Here goes... I intend to package
> Blackbox, a small rather fast X11 window Manager. It's gpl'd SFAIK, It
> doesn't contain a copyright notice, bu
On Jun 14, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:
> I would like to ask what I should do about this:
>
> 1) File a release-critical bug on ftp.debian.org that could be closed if the
> corrected package was copied from hamm to slink?
>
> 2) File a release-critical bug on the package that could be closed if th
Is there anything like a cannonical list of packages that are needed for
building a standard debian system?
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Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've never had ntpdate ever work while xntpd is running, with the set
> > options it never actually changes the time, I forget if it's a silent
> > fail or if it gives some error.
Harumph.
Personally, I've never seen ntpdate hang, I've only deferred
Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you have 1GB or so free and you have root access, you can install
> Debian in a chrooted environment.
And if you don't want to install just about every debian package
you can get by with a lot less than 1GB.
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Regards
Ray
Why are you movin
From one country to another
to find peace?
The sea of peace is just inside
Your mind's si
Yes after much trial and hard ship (ok after me putting it off and
complaining a lot) Imlib 1.6 is now resting comfortably in Debian's
Incoming and will appear in slink shortly. SO yes, now GNOME and Debian
will happen. Jim Pick and I seem to have it so we can make auto gen
packages from cvs so m
On 14 Jun 1998, Steve Dunham wrote:
> Ray Kinsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Er,
> >
> > Hey all, I have a a few small problems,
> >
> > I was messing about today on irc.debian.org doling out tech support while
> > playing around with apackage called Dumb it is a free Doom Graphics
>
Ray Kinsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Er,
>
> Hey all, I have a a few small problems,
>
> I was messing about today on irc.debian.org doling out tech support while
> playing around with apackage called Dumb it is a free Doom Graphics
> engine. Anyway I got it to compile after some light s
Jeff Sheinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem is that `ae' is what's available. I just go bananas
> trying to use it. It just rubs me the wrong way. Perhaps others
> react to ae in a similar way?
Yes, but note that the current version of ae fixes a lot of these
problems. [I found thi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree tottally. Personally..my favoprite editor right now is ee. I use it
I suppose ee is also a candidate for the rescue disks if it fits (it
offers searching, which is something that ae doesn't do, and it's
smaller than elvis-tiny).
Also, note th
Manoj Srivastava writes:
> Absolute novices unwilling to learn should be lead gently to
> the nearest windows box.
As I see it, it's not a matter of `learning' but of `using' what
is available on the boot disk.
My usual editor is emacs. Today I used `ee' for the first time,
while install
Michael Dietrich wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> i copied a harddisk with tar (kind of tar -c -f - | tar -x -f - -C
> /copy...) and lost a lot of accessinformation. it seems, that the
> umask dropped all the rights for writing for group and other. shure i
> didn't read the manual and thi sbehavier may be a fe
Michael Dietrich writes ("Re: xanim on alpha"):
>> Oops. I forgot to remove that evil archive from the source!
>> Technically, we are not allowed to distrbute those. The xanim
>> author got a permission to distribute them, but it's
>> non-transferable. I tried to contact the company that owns th
On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 10:27:52AM -0400, Z-Y [Jerry] wrote:
> greet all,
>
> I am no guru. But let's stop this war!
yes...wars are unproductive..and in the case of this type of war
doesn't even have the benefit of getting rid of some people off the planet.
> To me, choice of editor depends on
> Oops. I forgot to remove that evil archive from the source!
> Technically, we are not allowed to distrbute those. The xanim
> author got a permission to distribute them, but it's
> non-transferable. I tried to contact the company that owns the
> copyright, but got no response, and xanim author
Some time around Fri, 15 Jun 2018 03:22:12 +0200,
Michael Dietrich wrote:
> hi,
>
> i tried to get an alpha-binary of xanim. because i didn't find it on
> the mirror i got the source and tried to compile. everything worked
> fine but a wrong path in rules (that one for the dotofile
Michael Dietrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> do you really think an absolute novice would understand why he or she
> should press j or k and not those fancy key with the arrows with the
> correct direction instead and that those key should won't insert those
> letters printed on them into the text
On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 03:08:15PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Remember that we're talking theory here, even elvis-tiny is
> currently bigger than ae, and space is cramped on the rescue
> disk.
How about gzexe?
Hamish
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L
hi,
i copied a harddisk with tar (kind of tar -c -f - | tar -x -f - -C
/copy...) and lost a lot of accessinformation. it seems, that the
umask dropped all the rights for writing for group and other. shure i
didn't read the manual and thi sbehavier may be a feature, not a bug.
but now i've got a de
hi,
i tried to get an alpha-binary of xanim. because i didn't find it on
the mirror i got the source and tried to compile. everything worked
fine but a wrong path in rules (that one for the dotofiles.tgz, no ../
necesary). but then the linker complained about wrong binary: the
source package comes
> > Absolute novices unwilling to learn should be lead gently to
> > the nearest windows box.
> How about something like:
[..]
> This editor has two modes, in Input mode you may enter text,
> in Command mode you may alter previously entered text.
>
> To enter input mode from command mode, hi
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never had ntpdate ever work while xntpd is running, with the set
> options it never actually changes the time, I forget if it's a silent
> fail or if it gives some error.
Hmm.. and the system where I was running ntpdate in the background
(after I t
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