Re: locale errors

1997-06-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a > > > libc6 ve

Re: hamm and dftp

1997-06-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 17.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 17 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 16.06.97 in > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Is there a dftp.conf setup I can use that doesn't require me to do some > >

attempting to solve copyright problem

1997-06-18 Thread Igor Grobman
I recently (yesterday, in fact) discovered a wonderful Tcl/Tk-based irc client for X called cIRCus. It is by far the best graphical irc client I've seen. My first thought was, of course, to package it for Debian, but the copyright is quite restrictive. There is no source, and it states that "i

Re: Bug#10676: RFC: Virtual Package Name List (was bug #10676)

1997-06-18 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is a virtual package "imap-client" which is "suggested" by imap-4 > (Suggests: pine | imap-client) but no package seems to provide it. Thus, I > suggest to remove this entry, too: > > imap-client

Re: File Locking

1997-06-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> Karl, thanks for the nice summary! You're welcome. :-) Christian> On 16 Jun 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: >> ** Publib looks like it might already be the library needing to >> be created that was menti

Re^2: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Marco Budde
Am 16.06.97 schrieb efraim # argh.org ... Moin Alexander! AK> sendmail: too complicated That's wrong. It's very easy to configure sendmail with the m4 scripts for a leaf site. And professionell system adminstrators will use sendmail because it's the standard MTA. And you should remember that

Re^2: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Marco Budde
Am 16.06.97 schrieb efraim # argh.org ... Moin Alexander! AK> sendmail: too complicated That's wrong. It's very easy to configure sendmail with the m4 scripts for a leaf site. And professionell system adminstrators will use sendmail because it's the standard MTA. And you should remember that

Re: RFC: Virtual Package Name List (was bug #10676)

1997-06-18 Thread Mark Eichin
xcompat is dead (ie. it dates from when those were valid... since no current packages need those virtual names, xcompat isn't needed either.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: ftp problems to master

1997-06-18 Thread Bruce Perens
Mike Neuffer is on the road, driving back to Beaverton from here. I sent mail to Simon, and one of you who has root privilege on master might look at the situation, too. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerpr

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Thomas Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > AFAIK, qmail is highly antisocial WRT the number of connections it forces > on a recipient host. It hasn't had this problem for several revisions. It limits the number of connections it tries to one system so that it won't hang a bunch of mail delivery dae

New packages: libcgi-perl and libcgi-pm-perl

1997-06-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Since perl 5.004 comes with CGI.pm and some stuff from CGI-modules, I took the liberty of removing CGI-modules. It has sice been pointed out to me that not all the libs in CGI-modules have been incorporated, so there is still some added value to that. There is also some value in ha

leap second

1997-06-18 Thread Bruce Perens
The time is out of joint, o 'cursed spite. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology will set it right on June 30, at one second before midnight UTC, by adding a leap second. Systems that run on POSIX time will ignore this. The effect is that they will consider the difference between

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-18 Thread ghughes
On Jun 18, Rob Browning wrote > Say you have three users who have accounts on your system, but their > primary accounts are elsewhere. Now you want their email headers to > be rewritten by *sendmail* to appear to come from their other provider > so that it will be correct no matter what email clie

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
> On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Philip Hands wrote: > > > I think we should also consider switching to Maildir/ format for mail > > drops, since it seems to be the only way for delivering mail securely > > over NFS. > > procmail does also deliver mail securely over NFS. > (At least this is what the docume

Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, David Frey wrote: > My comments on Christian's proposal (which is very good, thank you christian): > > >TOPIC 1: policy for user and group ids (uids, gids) > > Wouldn't it be better to start the user uid range with 100 as most other > Unices do? Sorry, but I don't get your

Re: File Locking

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
Karl, thanks for the nice summary! On 16 Jun 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: [snip] > mis en place: > > I know that there are several stand-alone programs for handling > file-locking, and that the `procmail' package has a fairly good setup > for that. INND apparently does as well; as does `mget

RFC: Virtual Package Name List (was bug #10676)

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi folks! On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Igor Grobman wrote (cf. bug #10676): > Package: debian-policy > Version: 2.1.3.3 > > X11R6 virtual package is not marked obsolete in virtual packages list. I > got bitten by this one when packaging dotfile generator. I suspect

ftp problems to master

1997-06-18 Thread Helmut Geyer
Hello! Currently it is impossible to ftp to master (even when logged in at master). All connections on port 21 are rejected. Could someone please look at it? Thanks, Helmut -- Helmut Geyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] public PGP key available : finger [EMAI

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
> Philip Hands wrote: > > >I think we should seriously consider using qmail as our default MTA. It's > >only real weakness lies in it's documentation, and that should be reasonably > >easy to fix. > > AFAIK, qmail is highly antisocial WRT the number of connections it forces > on a recipient ho

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
> >I think we should also consider switching to Maildir/ format for mail drops, > >since it seems to be the only way for delivering mail securely over NFS. > > I think we should try to stick with solutions that work with both > Maildir and central spool directories, since otherwise it is difficul

XEmacs maintainer gone???!!

1997-06-18 Thread John Goerzen
I just sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This transforms (correctly) into [EMAIL PROTECTED] scsn.net reports that there is no dres user on their system. Does this mean that the maintainer for XEMacs is gone? -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Program

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Philip Hands wrote: > I think we should also consider switching to Maildir/ format for mail drops, > since it seems to be the only way for delivering mail securely over NFS. procmail does also deliver mail securely over NFS. (At least this

Re: Corel Wordperfect and Java Office

1997-06-18 Thread Shaya Potter
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Raul Miller wrote: > On Jun 6, Colin R. Telmer wrote > > I just noticed that Corel is just in the process porting Wordperfect 7 to > > Linux and the following is on the web page > > : > > > > Certified Operating Systems > > > > RedHat 2.0

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-18 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote: > How about this: Have the policy dictate that no packages may be > compiled against libc4/5, and then move any packages that don't comply > with the policy to 'contrib'. I believe that one of the reasons for > having 'contrib' is to contain packa

Re: inetd question

1997-06-18 Thread Peter Tobias
On Jun 17, Michael Meskes wrote: > Yes, I use a proxy and both proxy and www-client run on the same > machine. But it appears the ident calls came from my firewall where I > run a http-gw. > > You're absolutely right that I should get rid of that traffic. There is > no need for the firewall to as

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Richard Kaszeta
>I think we should also consider switching to Maildir/ format for mail drops, >since it seems to be the only way for delivering mail securely over NFS. I think we should try to stick with solutions that work with both Maildir and central spool directories, since otherwise it is difficult to maint

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Thomas Koenig
Philip Hands wrote: >I think we should seriously consider using qmail as our default MTA. It's >only real weakness lies in it's documentation, and that should be reasonably >easy to fix. AFAIK, qmail is highly antisocial WRT the number of connections it forces on a recipient host. This is not

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-18 Thread Rob Browning
Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I might speculate on my "winning" sendmail configuration strategy: > ignore the irrelevant (like rule sets). Say you have three users who have accounts on your system, but their primary accounts are elsewhere. Now you want their email headers to be

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-18 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Santiago Vila Doncel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Brian C. White wrote: > >> August 31, 1997 All packages depending on libc4 or libc5 will be removed. > >This is too much strong. I would suggest to make their associated bug >(the one saying "it's still libc5") "almost-critical"

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, This discussion seems to keep getting side tracked with ``program X does not support feature Y'' type statements. In the case of qmail at least, I'd just like to emphasise that every feature that I've wanted (or seen asked for on the qmail list), that is not explicitly included in qmail

Awful problem with dpkg

1997-06-18 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
Hi: Trying to upgrade the machine of a colegue, I found and awful problem with dpkg I haven't managed to deal with. Apparently, the package database got corrupted somehow, preventing me from upgrading any package. For example, if I try to upgrade libc5 with dpkg -i libc5_5.4.23-6.deb I ge

checker libs with debugging symbols

1997-06-18 Thread Michael Meskes
Is there a reason for the checker libraries to come with debugging symbols? I haven't used checker yet, so I don't know. But I assume that the libraries without debugging symbols would work. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Projekt-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Taking my leave/Packages available

1997-06-18 Thread Andy Mortimer
On Jun 17, Larry 'Daffy' Daffner wrote > svgalib (svgalib1, svgalib1-bin, svgalib1-dev, aout-svgalib which > probably doesn't need any further updates) > zgv I'll take zgv, and I'm quite happy to have the svgalib ones too if nobody else wants them. Cheers, &E -- Andy Mortimer, [EMAIL PRO

Re: Taking my leave/Packages available

1997-06-18 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Larry 'Daffy' Daffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > svgalib (svgalib1, svgalib1-bin, svgalib1-dev, aout-svgalib which > probably doesn't need any further updates) > zgv I don't want those because I avoid svgalib and everything to do with it. > xco

Re: Obsolete package CGI-modules (hamm)

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 17 Jun 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Scott" == Scott K Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Scott> Umm, actually perl5 only includes CGI.pm, and CGI::Apache, > Scott> Carp, Fast, Push, and Switch. The libs from CGI-modules are > Scott> NOT included. So we do still need a cgi-modu

RE: locale errors

1997-06-18 Thread Michael Meskes
I wonder whether it's difficult to fix that. If I recall correctly most of the locale code in libc5 is from glibc anyway. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Projekt-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: hamm and dftp

1997-06-18 Thread Douglas L Stewart
On 17 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 16.06.97 in <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]>: > > > Is there a dftp.conf setup I can use that doesn't require me to do some > > sed work on the packages file? The paths are wrong for the mirrors in the > > one that's o

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-18 Thread Ardo van Rangelrooij
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 15 Jun 1997, Ardo van Rangelrooij wrote: > > > I have another policy issue which is related to topic 11 (see below). > > > > The current layout of Info entries in the main Info menu (in the file > > /usr/in

Taking my leave/Packages available

1997-06-18 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner
It is with great regret that I must give up my involvement with Debian. Between the large volumes of list mail every day and the other commitments in my life, I never seem to have proper time to devote to my packages or other projects of mine that have been on the back burner forever. Therefore,

Re: Debian target audience

1997-06-18 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> On Jun 16, Alex Yukhimets wrote > > > > I am sorry to say, but you are wrong. Even on this list there were > > several postings regarding this matter. There are several known > > problems and who knows how many unknown. You just can't afford to > > experiment with "production" system this way.

Re: GNU stow

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 17, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote [snip] > > Finally, I'm looking at GSPreview (similar to ghostview) and UPS (the > graphical debugger) with a view to packaging them. Anyone else working > on these already? If memory serves, UPS is listed in Sven "Packages Wanted" FAQ. And I believe it's l

Re: Debian target audience

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 16, Alex Yukhimets wrote > > I am sorry to say, but you are wrong. Even on this list there were > several postings regarding this matter. There are several known > problems and who knows how many unknown. You just can't afford to > experiment with "production" system this way. Anyway, I co