Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread David Engel
> So if we start from the assumption that we will have a separate, totally > unmodified source .tar.gz, that means we will have at a minimum two files. > > So, what can we have that other file to be? > > I would propose that it be a script (humanly readable, though it doesn't > have to be the p

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread James A. Robinson
> I'll go further and say that I think that any approach that does not > include as one of its goals the ability to work with totally virgin source > archives is a total waste of time because it doesn't buy us enough to > justify the work. Now hold on a second there! What about packages put tog

Re: Source packages

1995-10-31 Thread Andrew D. Fernandes
> > I propose that Debian source packages be constructed this way: > > The source package "hello.dsr" is a compressed tar archive containing > four files. I like this, but perhaps there should be two DELTA files, or one DELTA file with the patch program taking arguments... remember s

Source packages

1995-10-31 Thread Bruce Perens
I propose that Debian source packages be constructed this way: The source package "hello.dsr" is a compressed tar archive containing four files. The first file is a copy of the Debian package header, for identification purposes. It's not interpreted by the

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread Bill Mitchell
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I'll go further and say that I think that any approach that does not > include as one of its goals the ability to work with totally virgin source > archives is a total waste of time because it doesn't buy us enough to > justify the work.

Bug#1378: weird ELF/a.out difference

1995-10-31 Thread David Engel
> Package: elf-libc > Version: 5.2.7-1 > > Package: elf-gcc > Version: 2.7.0-2 > > Consider the following program: > -- demo.c -- > #include > > int main(void) { > if (3 > SHRT_MAX) { > exit(1); > } > } > -- end -- > > when this program is compiled for a.out (gcc-2.6.3-4, libc-4.6.27-5) >

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, David Engel wrote: >First, I prefer to go with unmodified, upstream source. Second, I >really mean unmodified, i.e.. the Debianizing script (or whatever) must >take care of unpacking into subdirectories, if necessary. I'll go further and say that I think that any approach t

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-10-31 Thread David Engel
> 2. Secondly, we arrange that all the new base packages have code in > the preinst that checks for the existence of the ELF libraries > (perhaps by running /usr/bin/elf-available or something). If the > libraries aren't found then the preinst returns a non-zero exit status > and the upgrade abort

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread David Engel
> > 2. It would also be good to have the same thing as above, but to > > produce the upstream source. > > 2a. That upstream source should be unmodified. > > A 'unmodified upstream source + unpack/patch thingy' would not conflict > with 1(alt). > > > 3. All of the ways of unpacking our source pack

Bug#1785: Default font.

1995-10-31 Thread Juho A Vuori
Package: kbd Version: 0.90-3 This is not an actual bug, but in my opinion, it's not wise to have default8x16 as the default font in /etc/rc.boot/console. Shouldn't it rather be iso01.f16 in unix world?

Overdue problem reports

1995-10-31 Thread iwj10
The following problem reports are very old but have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or as forwarded to a developer by CCing a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please help ensure that these bugs are dealt with quickly, even if you are not the package maintainer in que

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
> Before we get bogged down into the details of exactly what script > should do what, &c, we need to consider what our requirements are, and > make some overall design decisions. I think we have several > conflicting requirements. > > 1. It is important to have a single file that can be downloade

Re: 1.0 issues: Packaging (esp. source)

1995-10-31 Thread Bruce Perens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] reads debian-devel . He's made noises about working together before. Bruce

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> said (quoting out of order): > [...] we need to consider what our requirements are, and > make some overall design decisions. I think we have several > conflicting requirements. > 2a. That upstream source should be unmodified. > 3. All of the ways of unpacking o

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-10-31 Thread Ian Murdock
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 01:04 GMT From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If this is true then we need to copy the whole of the binary area from 0.93 to 1.0, so that 1.0 instantly becomes the `bleeding-edge' distribution. Are we going to start with an a.out 1.0 and migrate to an ELF 1.0

Bug#1784: /etc/init.d/functions and /etc/init.d/skeleton

1995-10-31 Thread Ian Murdock
Package: sysvinit Version: 2.57b-1 Until all of the bugs related to /etc/init.d scripts calling /etc/init.d/functions are fixed, /etc/init.d/functions shouldn't do anything (i.e., it should be an empty script). This will end the problem with the arguments getting changed. In addition, /etc/init.

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Before we get bogged down into the details of exactly what script should do what, &c, we need to consider what our requirements are, and make some overall design decisions. I think we have several conflicting requirements. 1. It is important to have a single file that can be downloaded and then u

Re: 1.0 issues: Packaging (esp. source)

1995-10-31 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
Bill wrote: > Also, I think RedHat does something like this in their package admin > tools. That's been discussed a bit in debian-devel, but I don't think > anyone has taken the time to look at it. I've browsed through it (http://www.redhat.com/rpm.html), and it is remarkably like the current deb

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-10-31 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
Ian J. writes: > I think that as the dpkg maintainer I probably have a reasonably good > idea of how we can go about this so as to maintain minimum problems: > > 1. Firstly, we make sure that all our a.out packages have a Depends > line that refers to the a.out libc in some way. We're still behin

Bug#1783: pppd puts wrong PID in LCK..ttySxx file

1995-10-31 Thread Kenny Wickstrom
Package: ppp Version: 2.2 Revision: 1 It appears like when I start ppp to my ISP, that the PID placed in /var/lock/LCK..ttyS20 (on my system) is not the same as the PID in /var/run/ppp0.pid. The result of this is that if another program, like UUCP, would like to use this port, it appears like th