Bug#727708: Please clarify L options with regard to interfaces [and 1 more messages]

2014-02-07 Thread Paul Hedderly
Ian Jackson wrote: > Sam Hartman writes ("Bug#727708: Please clarify L options with regard to > interfaces"): >> I'm sorry, I missed the message that was a direct reply to me. >> >> I now understand Ian's position to mean that we must not require users >> to select a certain init system for thin

Bug#727708: Call for votes on init system resolution

2014-02-08 Thread Paul Hedderly
Quoting: Steve Langasek > So to make my position clear: L does not accurately reflect what I think we > should be doing; but given the option between L and T, I was willing to vote > L above FD and was not willing to vote T above FD because I think T > unambiguously sets the stage for all other i

Bug#727708: init system coupling etc.

2014-02-13 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 06:01:56PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I suppose what I mean is that a problem which occurs due to "wrong" > init system is a real problem and should not be reduced in severity or > excused on the grounds that the particular init system is defined as > "required" (whether vi

Bug#727708: [gmail.com] Re: Bug#727708: call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 01:51:56AM -0600, Tony Thedford wrote: > > On 02/18/2014 09:34 PM, Jason Frothingham wrote: > > ... > > > Adopting systemd does not, in any way shape, form, idea, concept, > conclusion, thought, etc. etc. etc. prevent, pervert, divert, etc. etc. > etc. the go

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:15:48PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Ansgar Burchardt writes ("Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote > on init systems"): > > Is there still anything left to discuss on tftp-hpa/upstart or could > > this issue be closed? The last upload restored support for u

Bug#762194: Automatic switch to systemd on wheezy->jessie upgrades

2014-09-19 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 01:44:43PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > My view is that users should not be automatically switched when > upgrading to jessie. As I said in my intro to #746578: > Just out of interest, had Upstrat been chose as the _default_ init system for Debian, would you have had the s