Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:05:46PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > The reaction to every single instance of someone finding it a pain to > maintain sysvinit support should not be "as a reminder, the TC has a > giant hammer and will hit you with it". The reaction should be "are > there people willing

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Vincent Bernat writes ("Re: Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire"): > Maybe sysvinit users (and advocates) could answer to the current RFA on > src:sysvinit (#811377). None of the people who volunteered half a year > ago seemed to have carried on despite

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Josh Triplett > On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:14:25 +0100 Ian Jackson > wrote: > > Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit > > support decision is not going to expire"): > > > I don't want to make a blanket statement that it's a bug not to include > > > an init script. Th

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-27 Thread Bart Schouten
I agree on this too. To the extent it should be considered time-limited, it should be «until N releases after sysvinit is removed» or somesuch, if that happens. In legal terms, in law, it would be considered that the burden of proof lies with those who want to remove it. Asking the supporter

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bart" == Bart Schouten writes: >> I agree on this too. To the extent it should be considered >> time-limited, it should be «until N releases after sysvinit is >> removed» or somesuch, if that happens. Bart> In legal terms, in law, it would be considered that the burden

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Bart Schouten > > I agree on this too. To the extent it should be considered > > time-limited, it should be «until N releases after sysvinit is > > removed» or somesuch, if that happens. > > In legal terms, in law, it would be considered that the burden of > proof lies with those who want to

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-27 Thread Bart Schouten
Sam Hartman schreef op 28-08-2016 1:37: I'm nervous of going too far down the path of legalisms. Asking those who need the scripts to prove (or even say) they still need them is not what we want. However if someone is having difficulty maintaining the scripts or they are broken, it is reason