On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 10:19:42PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Agreed. Traditionally, however, Unix has not been in the practice of
> being easy to use. We should be careful, not hidebound.
That depends.
Once upon a time, security wasn't much of an issue, and ease of use for
the casual user was
> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Manoj> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman
Manoj> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
Manoj> It seems to me that this ought to be local policy. Can
Manoj> you explain to me how the proposed solutions take si
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Hartman) writes:
> The problem is fairly simple. Some of our users actually want to use
> their systems once they get it installed.
;-)
> Perhaps when Debian and the FHS originally made this decision, users
> could be expected to simply add themselves to groups if they n
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Traditionally, UNIX has not been in the practice of
> automatically adding users to groups, and I think we need to be
> careful if we decide to break from universal practice.
A problem is that is simply isn't possible to do it securely currently,
which
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> The problem is fairly simple. Some of our users actually want to
> use their systems once they get it installed. Particularly, they'd
> like to be able to do things like play sound, access their floppy
> drives an
Hi. After discussing the issue together, the shadow maintainer and I
(PAM maintainer) have decided to refer the issue of initial groups for
users to the TC. This is not one developer asking the TC to overrule
another; Karl and I are in agreement that the issue is bigger than
either of our packa
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